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Staingate, MBP 2015 is delaminating and how to fix differently.
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Apr 25, 2023, 05:15 AM
 
Yes, I have one of those too and I had it replaced under the Apple recall programme and now it happens again. Recall programme no longer in effect.

So now I like to remove it myself as the MBP is still in good working order.

But there is the snag. I tried many things and there is about 1/3 of the screen that refuses to give up the coating. To put you in the picture of what I used and did not work. Hope if did not forget one as I maybe forgot one after all the days that I am at it.

Baby wipes
Baking soda mixture
Carpet-cleaner fluid
Coke (as in the drink 😊)
Deferent kinds of glass/window cleaner
Disinfectant in several forms
Disinfecting wet wipes
Hand soap
Isopropyl alcohol
Listerine
Nail polish remover
Oil
Sticky tape
Toilet cleaner
Toothpaste
Washing-up liquid different brands

All of them I used by rubbing and some I used by letting it soak and next rub. Some I used in combination by mixing them.

As you may guess I am a bit desperate here. And I figure I am not the first on the be here. So, who has a solution that is not available on the internet. Believe me I ploughed the internet for at least 2 hours. But most of it reaps the same solutions, the Listerine or Baby wipes method.

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Apr 25, 2023, 10:55 AM
 
If freakin’ acetone won’t cut it, I’m at a loss.
     
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Apr 25, 2023, 11:35 AM
 
Thanks for your reply. It did not, well I used nail polish remover so not pure acetone. still
     
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Apr 25, 2023, 02:01 PM
 
Perhaps a picture, to see what you're fighting?
     
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Apr 25, 2023, 02:23 PM
 
Here you go hope it helps you understand.

     
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Apr 25, 2023, 02:24 PM
 
sorry link not working.

https://ibb.co/zX2kJPB

( Last edited by reader50; Apr 25, 2023 at 02:44 PM. Reason: fixed image embed)
     
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Apr 25, 2023, 02:47 PM
 
Fixed the image for you. Just copy the "BBcode" link they provide below the image, and insert it here.

I'm not sure what I'm looking at. Is the visible keyboard a reflection? I was hoping more for a shot of the full screen, so we could see if the problem is in the center, on the periphery, or has no clear pattern.
     
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Ahhhhh!!! NSFL!!!!
     
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Apr 26, 2023, 02:39 AM
 
Originally Posted by reader50 View Post
Fixed the image for you. Just copy the "BBcode" link they provide below the image, and insert it here.

I'm not sure what I'm looking at. Is the visible keyboard a reflection? I was hoping more for a shot of the full screen, so we could see if the problem is in the center, on the periphery, or has no clear pattern.
Good morning.

Thanks for fixing the image. Not sure I understand how to do it.

The MBP is laying on its back and you see indeed the reflection of the screen. The sides are clean no residue there, the pattern you see is more or less on the whole screen.

I will try to post another image in a bit.
     
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( Last edited by reader50; Apr 26, 2023 at 03:06 AM. Reason: embedded image)
     
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Apr 26, 2023, 03:10 AM
 
On the image page your link goes to, scroll down to the "Embed codes" section. Of the several options offered, copy the "BBCode" one. Paste it into your post here.

Click the "Edit" button on your post, and you'll see where I pasted it in.

About the pic, much better. Have you tried packing tape? ie - apply a strip of clear packing tape. Then slowly peel it off the screen. It just might pull the laminate away too. Or soften it up enough for rubbing alcohol to work.

My go-to solvents are water, alcohol, mineral spirits (paint thinner) and acetone. Ranked from safest (water) to most penetrating (acetone).
     
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Apr 26, 2023, 04:05 AM
 
Thanks Reader50.

Yes I tried packing tape. Had the thought yesterday and result = 0.

and yes i tried all of your go-to solvents. No sugar indeed.
     
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Apr 26, 2023, 01:23 PM
 
I have to assume that Apple has definitively said that your machine won’t be covered by the extended anti-reflective coating repair program. If you haven’t investigated it, and for anyone else who’s wondering “what the heck is Staingate,” look HERE for just one site talking about the program.

I have no personal experience from which to offer advice. My 2015, 13” MBP’s screen just takes up skin oils from my keyboard; I have no stains, per se. I use a microfiber keyboard cover to keep the keys from actually touching the screen, but I should probably clean the cover more often than I do. That would probably reduce the amount of cleaning I need to do.

Glenn -----OTR/L, MOT, Tx
     
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Apr 26, 2023, 01:31 PM
 
100% sure I checked with Apple.

Anybody that has any suggestions for me?
     
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Apr 26, 2023, 01:43 PM
 
The pattern on the screen suggests the laminate degrades with light exposure, probably UV light leaking in while the laptop is closed. So it came off cleanly around the perimeter, except a little at the bottom hinge corners. With the middle being erratic.

You could get in the habit of leaving the screen open and exposed to sunlight when not in use. Might take weeks or months before the central laminate degrades, but you plan to keep the laptop anyway - so why not let Mother Nature do the work. If my theory is right, the central laminate will presently become removable, though I've no idea how long it will take.
     
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Apr 27, 2023, 04:16 AM
 
Thanks Reader50.

I was actually going to let go of it as I bought a new one a while ago. That is why I thought I clean it up.

Interesting thought about the UV.
     
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Apr 27, 2023, 12:22 PM
 
how much to replace the screen?
would a sun lamp be helpful in increasing UV?
     
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Apr 27, 2023, 12:27 PM
 
screen must be 600 or more, so no option.

a sun lamp? no idea. not even sure the UV is the way to follow.
     
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Apr 27, 2023, 01:05 PM
 
I understand there are places who claim they can get the lamination off. There’s certainly a market for that service.

No idea if they’re any good, but it’ll probably cost less than $600.

I am glad to hear you’re not stuck using it.
     
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Apr 28, 2023, 02:30 AM
 
Yeah, I saw those places, phoned one and they did not give a money back warrantee. I had to take the risk and pay. And they want 80 or more.

Further research showed me a product from France that claims to solve it. ‘4STARSCLEAN KIT - Cleaning Spray’. I am suspicious if that would work. I suspect it is no more powerful than any of the things I tried. Has anybody out there tried this?
     
   
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