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Dace · Jan 20, 2004, 05:07 PM

I had a theory as to how to implement borders, so I put something together very quickly. And it works...it's a little rough, but I'll take it. And I'm sure it can be improved.

See for yourselves:

And no it's not a mockup

phillryu · Jan 20, 2004, 05:14 PM

Coooool!!! Can they be any larger?

Frisbee · Jan 20, 2004, 05:15 PM

Is that a brushed or aqua window? (methinks brushed)

Dace · Jan 20, 2004, 05:17 PM

It's brushed, only way I know of implenting borders at the moment. And, yes they can be larger.

Frisbee · Jan 20, 2004, 05:19 PM

Yeah, if it's brushed, I'm pretty sure I know how it was implemented; I suggested it a while ago, but my idea was ignored

maybe I didn't go into enough detail to get people to know what I was talking about.

Edit: Come to think of it, Apple's brushed windows have had borders since their incarnation; they're just too subtle to be noticed.

Dace · Jan 20, 2004, 05:25 PM

And when Unsanity comes out with the new Metallifizer, all apps will use brushed appearance

darkcore · Jan 20, 2004, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by Dace:
And when Unsanity comes out with the new Metallifizer, all apps will use brushed appearance

Excellent, I was wondering when someone would exploit the way brushed metal apps worked so that we could bring back borders.

brutal · Jan 20, 2004, 06:58 PM

ugh.. I just switched from XP to OSX. I can�t really say I missed those borders..

Frisbee · Jan 20, 2004, 07:04 PM

Yeah, here's my thread about a similar topic. No screenshot, no belief I guess... Thanks for bringing this idea to life, Dace.

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=193115

Synotic · Jan 20, 2004, 08:18 PM

This reminds me... there was actually a theme out there a while ago that used a layo hack and added true borders to even Aqua apps and the were draggable. It only applied to Carbon apps though. I'm sure that ShapeShifter will support it some time.

Fluid · Jan 20, 2004, 10:16 PM

What about Safari. They will be cut off. Won't look right.

Slayer-X · Jan 20, 2004, 10:23 PM

I tried that with my strawberry imac theme at first but the window header text in many windows does not come out on top, so you end up with a lot of windows having no header text visible.

solidfox · Jan 20, 2004, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by Dace:
And when Unsanity comes out with the new Metallifizer, all apps will use brushed appearance

The way I remember metalifizer it doesn't give apps that kind of brushed appearence, things looked more like safari - no borders...and only cocoaapps...

dunno 'bout the new release but I'd place my hope in shapeshifter for something like this.

NetworkShadow · Jan 21, 2004, 12:06 AM

This sure could become something cool.

bbxstudio · 06:52 AM

Originally posted by Dace:
It's brushed, only way I know of implenting borders at the moment. And, yes they can be larger.

Those aren't borders then, they're standard Metal Window Bevels... looks like the bevels are just colored differently than the fill - this is something that's always been possible, just nobody's bothered because they're all so concerned with making Aqua and Metal windows match - so I guess it's hat's off to Dace for finding a theme that actually lends itself to differently colored bevels and fills in metal windows

The previous poster was correct though - how does it look in iChat? Many apps draw the Metal Window Bevels on top of everything else but widgets, including the titlebar text.

JoE950 · 12:06 PM

themeing is an unpredictable nightmare!!! damn you aqua~!

Hi I'm Mike · Jan 21, 2004, 11:53 AM

pee pants

lokjah · Jan 21, 2004, 11:56 AM

looks like xp..

grand mufti · Jan 21, 2004, 11:48 PM

man us in windows world do everything to get rid of those darn borders..and you guys want them... lol useless info ( you can get rid of borders under win XP but you cant resize the windows with your cursor ) as i sit here saving for my ibook i dream of no borders.. not why im buyin one but its a +.

Frisbee · Jan 22, 2004, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by grand mufti:
man us in windows world do everything to get rid of those darn borders..and you guys want them... lol useless info ( you can get rid of borders under win XP but you cant resize the windows with your cursor ) as i sit here saving for my ibook i dream of no borders.. not why im buyin one but its a +.

Maybe the default XP theme looks like crap with borders, but there are a lot of potential mac themes that would look very nice with borders. I've seen many theme artists complain about the lack of borders in mac os customization, and I personally can't wait until SS supports them (If it ever does).