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gumby5647 · Apr 3, 2001, 12:48 AM

i think im going to have to say AOL on this one.....

with Winblows coming in a VERY close one....

artman · Apr 3, 2001, 12:55 AM

...and Netscape 6.0 a close third. Worse browser out there.

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mindwaves · Apr 3, 2001, 12:58 AM

IE 5.1 for OS X - absolutely is terrible

mr_sonicblue · Apr 3, 2001, 01:05 AM

WinZip. It's big, clunky, annoying, and does less than free programs.

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yoyo52 · Apr 3, 2001, 01:32 AM

Here's a vote for Windows media player. Blech!

olePigeon · Apr 3, 2001, 01:37 AM

Microsoft's IIS.

brainloop · Apr 3, 2001, 01:59 AM

Real Player and Windows Media Player

Cipher13 · Apr 3, 2001, 02:35 AM

Wow, I expected more "Windows" responses.

I'd have to agree about IE 5.1 in OSX, but also, there are SO many others that I just can't remember (I have erased the memories from my mind).
Um... nope, can't think of others.
Except the entire MS Ofice suite for windows, every version of it... ugh.
Anyway...

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GraphiteBoi · Apr 3, 2001, 03:30 AM

I would say without a doubt Windows, then Netscape 6.0, IE 5.1, followed by real player......

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AlbertWu · Apr 3, 2001, 03:32 AM

windows media player

sony openmg

anything by real

windoze

system 7.5.5 (ironic, huh)

appleworks, netscape, and word version 6.0 (seems to be an evil number when it comes to mac software)

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Cipher13 · Apr 3, 2001, 04:49 AM

Originally posted by AlbertWu:
system 7.5.5 (ironic, huh)

appleworks, netscape, and word version 6.0 (seems to be an evil number when it comes to mac software)

No way dude! 7.5.5 (or 7.5.3 rev 2) totally ROCKED!!!

Yeah, '6' is the accepted evil number for Mac software

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Rick1138 · Apr 3, 2001, 04:54 AM

Word2000-30 million lines of code in Office and it's nearly impossible to type a simple letter

The Dude · Apr 3, 2001, 05:02 AM

Originally posted by Cipher13:
No way dude! 7.5.5 (or 7.5.3 rev 2) totally ROCKED!!!

Yeah, '6' is the accepted evil number for Mac software

Just a second here, System 6 ruled! It was coded in assembly!

If only Mac OS X were coded in assembly...

Archangel · Apr 3, 2001, 05:04 AM

Can't say I have a whole lot of experience w/ atrocious software, but I will tell you what software piece I hate: realplayer. I can't stand it.

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The Dude · Apr 3, 2001, 05:06 AM

Come to think of it, there was this one program a few years back that annoyed the piss out of me. It also SCARED the piss out of me.

Anyone remember this CD-ROM called "Oceans Below"? Well, I do. I remember it caused the first Sad Mac icon I ever saw. Last one too. Boy you should of seen my face when that little thing popped up, I was horrified.

I then broke the disk and threw it into my garbage can.

starfleetX · Apr 3, 2001, 05:18 AM

SimCity 3000 (the Mac version)

Now, this is a fun little game, but the Mac version is a port in the worst possible way. It's slow as hell, and worst of all carries over the Windoze interface.

As far is I'm concerned, on the mac platform, SimCity 2000 was far better.

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simonjames · Apr 3, 2001, 05:23 AM

Groupwise - it is a Windows server corporate email system and is the *biggest* piece of shite software I have ever had the unfortunate requirement to use day-to-day

macvillage.net · Apr 3, 2001, 07:43 AM

Microsoft IIS

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PMG4DP · Apr 3, 2001, 07:49 AM

UBB

Fred CHOTTIN · Apr 3, 2001, 07:58 AM

MS Office, all versions: memory hungry and not as convenient as ClarisWorks for mixing up text with anything else.i work 3 times faster with AW 5 than anyone wanting to make a leaflet mixing text, images and spread sheet on MS Office.
Windows 95, 98, ME: almost impossible to have the latest version unles you buy a brand new PC and, everytime you buy a box, you are sure to get a very buggy version.
AppleWorks 6: the loss of converters is an absolute fault (latest update seems to correct it)

In general, all MS sofware as it adds many components to your system without giving a clue of what they are for.It seems you go into Windows weirdness even if you are on Macintosh.

Concerning games, Faust: it never worked (the CD release was a beta version with errors log and there was never any update in spite of sending errors log to the maker.

Concerning messengers: AIM (for over a year, it still have the same bug: bolding system fonts in spite of many updates.

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scaught · Apr 3, 2001, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by Archangel:
Can't say I have a whole lot of experience w/ atrocious software, but I will tell you what software piece I hate: realplayer. I can't stand it.

ill back you on that one. i only have realplayer to watch shows at supersphere.com. otherwise its so annoying and slow and crappy.

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Apr 3, 2001, 08:47 AM

I must vote for Netscape 6 as well. If thats the final release; I would have enjoyed to see the beta.

This must surely be closely followed by Microsoft WORD. Ever since Version 4 (which was actually good and sortof lean) as of version 5, I cant seem to find anything in the menus anymore. I mean you sit there writing a doc for 5 hours. And then it takes 1 hour to find out how to justify it and change the hyperlinks from blue to black so they print properly. Versions 6 and 2000 just made it worse. Its just so annoying. And SPELL CHECKING? Ha! I run TWO Word 2000's on my mac. One in English and one in French; because switching the damn dictionary never worked properly and easily in either version. Word is just so useless by now, it deserves a golden turkey award.

Finally I also hate AOL. Any software that says "Welcome to AOL"; or "You have Mail" should be piled in a heap, lit and shot with a double barreled shotgun; until its revised...

iSilver · Apr 3, 2001, 09:44 AM

Netscape 6
OpenDoc
Windows - all of it
Skydive

jmv · Apr 3, 2001, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by peer:
I must vote for Netscape 6 as well. SNIP This must surely be closely followed by Microsoft WORD. SNIP Word is just so useless by now, it deserves a golden turkey award. SNIP

Ditto peer's comments on above on Netscape 6 and Word.

If you ever feel the need to stay up and want to be challenged, try typing a formal document in Word that has different sections and page breaks AND insert page numbers properly (operative word) AND drawings and charts.

-jmv

Timo · Apr 3, 2001, 10:05 AM

AutoCAD -- any version: DOS, Windows, UNIX or that hurtin' Mac version, r. 12.

Talk about reinventing the wheel to do something simple.

T

Cipher13 · Apr 3, 2001, 10:12 AM

Don't forget to use lots of bullet points and stuff

(re. the MS Word doc )

Yeah, I'd have to agree that MS Word is perhaps the worst.
I didn't say it before because technically it works... but it is the very definiton of bloatware and is against everything userfriendly.
Ugh. It tries to do everything for you and is horrrible.
I hate it.

AppleWorks 5 forever!!

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Not_Dark_Yet · Apr 3, 2001, 10:27 AM

RealPlayer ? No?

N_D_Y

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parallax · Apr 3, 2001, 10:40 AM

Any Word greater than 5.1

gumby5647 · Apr 3, 2001, 10:41 AM

appleworks 6......

darcybaston · Apr 3, 2001, 11:16 AM

This list is not all exactly software only, but close enough.

Netscape 6

WindowsME

Any software that has advert banners

Microsoft File Systems (it's 8.3, it's 255, it's....a buggered CD)

MSWord (I much prefer AW 6 or Lotus Word)

The ZIP compression format.

FaxSTF (extensions from hell)

fdisk.exe (worst partition utility ever)

Darcy.

PowerBookDude · Apr 3, 2001, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by Rick1138:
Word2000-30 million lines of code in Office and it's nearly impossible to type a simple letter

lol

PBDude

maxelson · Apr 3, 2001, 11:40 AM

RealPlayer. Any version. I cannot believe it is the industry standard for anything. It's crap.
I see people poking at AppleWorks and OpenDoc. You are kidding, right?
For my money, AW beats any office app out there. As for OD, I loved every part of it and mourn its demise. I still use it in conjunction with Nisus (Another AMAZING app- document processing does not begin to cover it) and, yes, CyberDog. OD may have been chuggy on 601-603 based systems, but it is great on G3s and 4s.

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Colonel Panic · Apr 3, 2001, 11:46 AM

Yeah, what's wrong with AW6? OK, a clunky button bar and some stability problems at first, but by 6.0.4 it was extremely stable for me. it rocked. the worst piece of software ever?!?!? AW 6? no way!!!

how about the original Windows? that was just sad....

Ruddigger · Apr 3, 2001, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by Cipher13:
No way dude! 7.5.5 (or 7.5.3 rev 2) totally ROCKED!!!

Yeah, '6' is the accepted evil number for Mac software

I think 8.6 was the best "Classic" OS Apple's made.

Oh, and my vote's for enternet 300. Piece of crap.

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denim · Apr 3, 2001, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by starfleetX:
SimCity 3000 (the Mac version)

Now, this is a fun little game, but the Mac version is a port in the worst possible way. It's slow as hell, and worst of all carries over the Windoze interface.

As far is I'm concerned, on the mac platform, SimCity 2000 was far better.

Total agreement. Oh, and the recent Monopoly port too.

gumby5647 · Apr 3, 2001, 04:29 PM

AW6,...yeah ok i have yet to figure out a way to make a decent presentation in a short amout of time with it, Power Point still wins here.....

AW 5 forever!

druber · Apr 3, 2001, 05:19 PM

perhaps not a top ranker, but both mactella and limewire are horrible to use. heaven forbid you want to use a different app while they're running. even without provocation they freeze everything for 10 seconds, 20, sometimes a minute or two. java isn't winning any awards with this one.

Apr 3, 2001, 05:19 PM

AW6 is the worst software i have EVER seen apple made. hahahhahahah

the os x (and 9) version doesn't even have live scrolling

NickKohn · Apr 3, 2001, 05:52 PM

ummm, anything ever written by me in my computer science classes. Hell, half of them never compiled. And the ones that did....well, let's just say a few F's will change ones major

garrettnelson · Apr 3, 2001, 08:40 PM

AppleWorks 6 is not that bad ... I don't see why everyone hates it so much.

I'd have to say ...

Word (before 2000 � I like 2000. Heretic!

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Windows (it just sucks)
SC3000 (ditto; you cannot get this thing to run acceptably)
Generally, any classroom-scale education software

TheDoctor · Apr 3, 2001, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by garrettnelson:
Generally, any classroom-scale education software

I'll agree with that.

Also, Fortres 101 (security software for Windows), MS Office 2k (even the installer crashes!), Realplayer, and Windows Media Player 7 (6.x was actually pretty good IMHO).

mikithecrackhead · Apr 3, 2001, 10:32 PM

SPRING CLEANING software totally sucked I can't beleive no one else had this down.

the very, very worse has to be NETSCAPE 6, AOL4,5,6 hands down.

Icarus · Apr 3, 2001, 11:40 PM

Conflict Creator...er, I mean Conflict Catcher.

Indesign 1.0 a close second.

mindwaves · Apr 3, 2001, 11:45 PM

FAXstf 6

No idea how to use it (I didn't read the manuel however).

[This message has been edited by mindwaves (edited 04-03-2001).]

tonton · Apr 4, 2001, 01:33 AM

FaxSTF 6 gets special notice indeed. Crashes a lot. Lots of extensions. Proprietary modem scripts (how the hell do I fax with my Nokia mobile Phone?) Good news is that it's free with a new Mac...

Any alternative fax programs? One that will work with my cell phone?

AlbertWu · Apr 4, 2001, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by Cipher13:
No way dude! 7.5.5 (or 7.5.3 rev 2) totally ROCKED!!!

Yeah, '6' is the accepted evil number for Mac software

755 crashed every few seconds on my performa. I stayed with 753

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AlbertWu · Apr 4, 2001, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by garrettnelson:

Word (before 2000 � I like 2000. Heretic! )

u mean 2001?

2000 is the windows version. I use it every day. it sucks. the mac version (2001) is so much more polished

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Gee4orce · Apr 5, 2001, 09:04 AM

Check out www.iarchitect.com for some real (mostly windows) gems. Most entertaining.

chris v · Apr 5, 2001, 12:18 PM

Can't comment on windows software... I just assume it ALL sucks.
Had to use corel draw in win3.1 at a job nine years ago, and hated it. Haven't touched a windows box, since.

Alltime worst on a Mac, add me to the growing chorus chanting Netscape 6 and Realplayer. Both of which did nothing but crash my machine the majority of the time I attempted to launch them. Thank god for icab, and itunes.

Close second: anything written by Aldus. Freehand 4 was totally useless, and Pagemaker is still a mess. Macromedia and Adobe have had their hands full trying to fix these dogs.

third place: Typestyler 2.0 Only crashed my machine exactly every other time I launched it. Like clockwork. Slow as molasses, clunky interface, proprietary file format, with no save as or export options. 3.7 fixed everything, except the clunky interface, so now I'll use it when there's no obvious other choice.

CV

MikeM32 · Apr 5, 2001, 01:00 PM

I'd have to say Windows in general but especially 3.11. Being a Graphics person I know it'll tick alot of the "fans" of said software off, but Pagemaker just scares me

Mike