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Jul 16, 2008, 08:44 PM
 


We all hate it. The ignorant pop up to ask a question about their MAC.
Well here it is, perpetuated on an honest-to-goodness product.
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Jul 16, 2008, 08:47 PM
 
Do they still sell those things?
     
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Jul 16, 2008, 08:48 PM
 
I still have a SCSI Zip drive in a drawer somewhere. It was useful for a while.
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Jul 16, 2008, 08:48 PM
 
Good find. Now you need to figure out the i-pod thing.
     
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Jul 16, 2008, 08:50 PM
 
Not to mention the Ipod and Imac thing.
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Jul 16, 2008, 08:54 PM
 
Originally Posted by Kerrigan View Post
Do they still sell those things?
Yup. Very useful for PC accounts nightly backups.
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Jul 16, 2008, 09:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by voodoo View Post
Not to mention the Ipod and Imac thing.
I'm willing to bet Ipod and Imac are the result of Microsoft Word auto-correcting.

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Jul 16, 2008, 09:39 PM
 
Originally Posted by olePigeon View Post
I'm willing to bet Ipod and Imac are the result of Microsoft Word auto-correcting.

"You're a moron. You obviously meant to capitalize the I and not the letter next to it."
Yep, I concur. I lay the blame squarely on Word. I've had Word 'auto-correct' me that way many a time. Grr.
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Jul 16, 2008, 09:39 PM
 
Originally Posted by Uncle Doof View Post
Yup. Very useful for PC accounts nightly backups.
Seriously? I wouldn't backup ANYTHING on one of those. Their track record defeats the entire purpose of backup. (your mileage may have varied)
     
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Jul 16, 2008, 09:44 PM
 
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Seriously? I wouldn't backup ANYTHING on one of those. Their track record defeats the entire purpose of backup. (your mileage may have varied)
I can't recall ever having had a problem with them.
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Jul 16, 2008, 09:50 PM
 
Have you actually used them more than twice? I used to use them all the time back in the '90s, and I learned early that redundant backups are not only a good idea, they were pretty much necessary.
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Jul 16, 2008, 10:00 PM
 
The drives had a number of problems for a time, and I wound up getting something like five of them replaced at no charge. A few of them I'd bought at computer shows and "surprise!" they worked for like two minutes then died with the "click of death." In '99 and 2000 they were handy but already being replaced by CD burners.

Someday I'll get around to transferring my files on Zip discs to CDs. I do have all the hardware to do that (and it all works too!).

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Jul 16, 2008, 10:07 PM
 
*click* *click*

*click* *click* *click* *click*

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Jul 16, 2008, 10:08 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit View Post
Have you actually used them more than twice? I used to use them all the time back in the '90s, and I learned early that redundant backups are not only a good idea, they were pretty much necessary.
I agree. I think I had 2 out of a 6 pack that didn't fail and erase all the data eventually. I still have the translucent blue USB drive kicking around somewhere.
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Jul 16, 2008, 10:11 PM
 
Originally Posted by olePigeon View Post

Your a moran.
You weren't doing it right.

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Jul 16, 2008, 10:14 PM
 
Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
The drives had a number of problems for a time, and I wound up getting something like five of them replaced at no charge. A few of them I'd bought at computer shows and "surprise!" they worked for like two minutes then died with the "click of death." In '99 and 2000 they were handy but already being replaced by CD burners.

Someday I'll get around to transferring my files on Zip discs to CDs. I do have all the hardware to do that (and it all works too!).
Yeah, the disks themselves seemed okay, it was always the drives that keeled over. I still have one tower with a Zip 250 in it, but I couldn't tell you if it worked, as it's been 2 years since I've given it a try.

I had clients bringing me floppies for longer than Zips, once CD's hit. Zip disks were just waaaaay too expensive.

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Jul 16, 2008, 11:46 PM
 
Imation had the perfect transitional product. The Super Drive with the 120MB "floppy" disk. It also read normal floppies. Too bad they didn't market it very well. Iomega just took ahold of the market and kept it.

Anyone remember the 10MB floppy? At one of the places I volunteered at, we had a PowerMac 8100 that had some special floppy drive that used 10MB floppy disks. It also read normal floppies, but blazingly fast compared to your average floppy drive. We used it to copy Adobe Premiere project files cuz sneakernet was faster than AppleTalk.
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Jul 17, 2008, 01:11 AM
 
Originally Posted by (s)macintosh View Post
*click* *click*

*click* *click* *click* *click*

*click*

Just last week I threw out an old Jaz drive that could do that.
     
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Jul 17, 2008, 06:50 AM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit View Post
Have you actually used them more than twice?
Yup. Had 30-odd disks in rotation for about four years now. No problems.

Originally Posted by Chuckit View Post
I used to use them all the time back in the '90s, and I learned early that redundant backups are not only a good idea, they were pretty much necessary.
Of course. Who the heck doesn't do redundant backups anyways?
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Jul 17, 2008, 07:06 AM
 
In the draw next to me


There is a cupboard in another office full of these and the added bonus of Jaz and Syquest carts - happy days!
     
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Jul 17, 2008, 07:30 AM
 
Originally Posted by SirCastor View Post


We all hate it. The ignorant pop up to ask a question about their MAC.
Well here it is, perpetuated on an honest-to-goodness product.
"MAC Formatted", eh?

Well, I suppose that means it's networkable.

Sneaker-net compatible.

FWIW - I have two ZIPs sitting here that I just needed for a job last week: A lot of Kurzweil K2000 samplers out there (a defacto standard), with their sample libraries on ZIP disks.
     
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Jul 17, 2008, 08:29 AM
 
Originally Posted by voodoo View Post
Yep, I concur. I lay the blame squarely on Word. I've had Word 'auto-correct' me that way many a time. Grr.
Sometimes iTunes will do that to you as well: if you have previously entered an album incorrectly, with a lowercase first letter, autofill won't let you write it in correctly. You have to complete the word, then cursor back to change the first letter to a capital.

Sounds like nothing, but it can be very irritating.
     
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Jul 17, 2008, 12:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by Face Ache View Post
Just last week I threw out an old Jaz drive that could do that.
My uncle was getting rid of some old junk and he asked me if I wanted a Jaz drive and a few 2GB disks, it was SCSI so I had no way of using it.
     
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Jul 17, 2008, 01:21 PM
 
I'm still waiting for my $50 rebate from Iomega. It should be here any day now.
     
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Jul 17, 2008, 01:50 PM
 
I used to have about 100 zip disks. I worked at Kinko's in Zip's heyday, and we would get about 2 a day in our lost and found bin. After a month, they were mine. I used to give them to all of my friends.

Zips were relevant for what? About 3 years?

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Jul 17, 2008, 02:00 PM
 
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Zips were relevant for what? About 3 years?
I'd argue that they're still relevant. What other small, easy, cheap, offsite backup solution is there for an accounts machine which isn't connected to the 'net? OK, so there's USB thumb drives. But not if your PC is ancient (USB 1) and you want to be home in time for dinner.
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Jul 17, 2008, 02:08 PM
 
CDR?

Thumbdrive?

You can buy a 4 gig thumb drive for 10 bucks. You can also buy a USB2 PCI card for about $20.

How much is a Zip disc these days?

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Jul 17, 2008, 02:24 PM
 
Originally Posted by ort888 View Post
CDR?
Pain in the ass to keep those in a 30-day cycle. Either you're wasting CDRs or you're blanking CDRWs a lot.

Originally Posted by ort888 View Post
Thumbdrive?
<shrug>
No point spending good beer money just to upgrade the backup system.
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Jul 17, 2008, 03:35 PM
 
Jaz drives were actually pretty darn good. They were just a single HDD platter in a cartridge with the head inside the drive. They're actually still used a lot because of their reliability.

Still, you can't beat tape drives for reliability.
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