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quandarry
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Mar 4, 2004, 03:41 AM
 
Originally posted by John F.U. Smith:
<bullsh!t contained here in has been removed>
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Mar 4, 2004, 04:31 AM
 
Originally posted by iWrite:
They need to be cut out and discarded so that their disease does not spread or ruin another part of society -- as a cancer metastasizes to other healthy body parts. Criminals, left to run amuck, could ruin society permanently. That is why we have a legal system -- "due process."

I do not believe in nurturing cancers, in my body or in society, no.
very good. and just like every other reactionary fascist, you would rather violently treat the symptoms than to actually try to find a "cure" for the cause of the "disease".

that's about as "anti-progressive" as you can get. congratulations!

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Mar 4, 2004, 06:05 AM
 
Originally posted by iWrite:
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interesting. if you firmly believe in everything you say, why are you deleting your comments?
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Mar 4, 2004, 09:07 AM
 
philzilla: Because one member considered my comments as "flaunting my 'success'" so I removed them.

Captain Obvious says
The problem people have with my posts is that I have zero respect for others and for things they value because I find most things/people trivial. Which comes from my lack of belief in the equality of individuals.
Just had to get that on record, okay?

As far as my attending Yale on a scholarship, what is it to you? Jealous? Why? It was hard work and involved sacrifice. Yes, I did attend college, and have children, and WORK. I think you're a true misogynist, Captain Obvious, Mr. Male Chauvanist Pig.

Let me let you in on a little secret: SOME of us have legitimate reasons why we're here. What's yours? Because you're SO much better than the rest of us, why bother hanging around here? Seriously? Your elevator just doesn't go to the top floor -- you say you have "zero respect for others" so why bother reading and commenting on what others have to say?

Also, get your facts straight. If you're going to make comments about my life (and I find it fascinating that you are obviously trying to take notes on my life -- the Psycho movie music comes to mind here) then get your facts straight, will ya?

Everything you posted about me is some warped version of what I actually said or factoids about my life.

Anyway, like I said, even with the people that I disagree with, at least I DO have some modicum of respect for them. You know why? They're REAL. Unlike you.

Now I've wasted enough time discussing you and your pseudo-intellectual and quasi-factual comments.

Hi quandarry! Here's my coffee cup raised to you in good morning cheers!

     
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Mar 4, 2004, 09:49 AM
 
Originally posted by iWrite:
philzilla: Hi quandarry! Here's my coffee cup raised to you in good morning cheers!

Seriously. Stop trying to shag quandarry. It's really gross. I thought you were married.
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 10:05 AM
 
iWrite, as I said in my earlier post, I can understand the impression others here have of you, based on your own posting comments, which while not as directly accusative in this thread, were certainly over the top in the other one.

In spite of the fact that I disagree with almost everything capt. obvious usually has to say, I think he made an excellent point when he noted that almost everyone has a visceral reaction to events that disgust and shock them, such as the hideous child rape noted in the other thread. I can personally understand the wish to see this man killed for his crime, and do not understand why he was only charged for pornography. I assume it was because it was assumed that the case would not stand up in court. My own immediate reaction would also probably be along similar lines, but I am not really in favour of the death penalty, because it doesn't, on the whole reduce the crime rate or redress the crime itself or bring true satisfaction, as the memory of the crime stays, whether revenge was taken or not.

I see that capt. obvious, while going overboard and outright accusing you of fabricating your stories, at least noted the same apparent inconsistencies in your story that I did. I also found your description of the ages of your child and your age to be somewhat strange. Not only this but I was also a bit puzzled that you manged to get your child arrested for truancy. I know that this is possible in some areas, as I've heard of it before, but I was surprised that you, and not school officials had control of the process of having her locked up and the period of her incarcetration and her release.
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Mar 4, 2004, 10:12 AM
 
Originally posted by iWrite:
philzilla: Because one member considered my comments as "flaunting my 'success'" so I removed them.
so, would you remove yourself for the consideration of one member?
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Mar 4, 2004, 10:41 AM
 
First of all, she wasn't arrested. She was picked up. After three times she had skipped school. She was put there because she was told BY THE SCHOOL that they would pick her up and put her there. When she skipped again I received the phone call from the school, "Mrs. X? Your daughter is not in her morning math class today and we're worried about her." I hunted her down and called the school and asked for the school police and they came and got her. I remember it like it was yesterday: She was at the mall outside of "The Limited" clothing store drinking a soda with a bag of clothes in her hand that she had just purchased and she was talking on the telephone. You think that doesn't warrant serious attention?

You think I should just say, "You're not in school AGAIN. Oh, it's okay, sweetie. We'll work it out together as a family." HELL NO. She was 15, 5'9" tall, long hair, beautiful girl and looked older than she was. It was for her own good that strict measures were taken. Carlie Brucia was just abducted walking home from a friend's house and murdered by Joseph Smith (Sarasota, Florida) and other young girls are abducted and found dead later. So, I should just let her do what she wants? Pick her up and say, "Tsk, tsk, tsk." NO. I got professionals involved: The school, the police, and a child psychologist. It worked. She didn't skip school again and she understood boundaries and why they are there -- for her own safety and well being. It took a "tough love" intervention to stop the behavior because after it happened several times, being "nice and understanding" was not working. We're talking about a girl who looked older than her age, was very smart, was very popular at school, and has a lot of confidence. She was ripe for getting into a situation that would have been harmful for her.

Second of all, the ages of my children are irrelevant. But, yes, I have a 20 year old daughter, an 11 year old son (soon to be 12), a 3 year old, and a little baby due any day.

What's the problem with that? Why would I lie about it? That's just bizarre that because you or Captain Misogynist thinks it doesn't make sense chronologically that you think I'm fabricating it. Very amusing!

What is even more amusing is if you were to meet me because people repeatedly cannot fathom that I have four children, let alone a daughter in college. When she's at home she and I go out together shopping and people never believe we're mother and daughter. I'm very close to her now and we have a good friendship and relationship.

The nice thing is that I'm young and we have great kids and a fun family and I'm young enough to enjoy all of it. I'm blessed in that regard. Best of all, I am married to a funny, handsome, very successful man whom I adore. (Who is home today to take our kids to tennis camp for the afternoon.)

I hope I've satiated your curiosity for details?

     
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Mar 4, 2004, 11:34 AM
 
Originally posted by iWrite:
First of all, she wasn't arrested. She was picked up. After three times she had skipped school. She was put there because she was told BY THE SCHOOL that they would pick her up and put her there. When she skipped again I received the phone call from the school, "Mrs. X? Your daughter is not in her morning math class today and we're worried about her." I hunted her down and called the school and asked for the school police and they came and got her. I remember it like it was yesterday: She was at the mall outside of "The Limited" clothing store drinking a soda with a bag of clothes in her hand that she had just purchased and she was talking on the telephone. You think that doesn't warrant serious attention?

You think I should just say, "You're not in school AGAIN. Oh, it's okay, sweetie. We'll work it out together as a family." HELL NO. She was 15, 5'9" tall, long hair, beautiful girl and looked older than she was. It was for her own good that strict measures were taken. Carlie Brucia was just abducted walking home from a friend's house and murdered by Joseph Smith (Sarasota, Florida) and other young girls are abducted and found dead later. So, I should just let her do what she wants? Pick her up and say, "Tsk, tsk, tsk." NO. I got professionals involved: The school, the police, and a child psychologist. It worked. She didn't skip school again and she understood boundaries and why they are there -- for her own safety and well being. It took a "tough love" intervention to stop the behavior because after it happened several times, being "nice and understanding" was not working. We're talking about a girl who looked older than her age, was very smart, was very popular at school, and has a lot of confidence. She was ripe for getting into a situation that would have been harmful for her.

Second of all, the ages of my children are irrelevant. But, yes, I have a 20 year old daughter, an 11 year old son (soon to be 12), a 3 year old, and a little baby due any day.

What's the problem with that? Why would I lie about it? That's just bizarre that because you or Captain Misogynist thinks it doesn't make sense chronologically that you think I'm fabricating it. Very amusing!

What is even more amusing is if you were to meet me because people repeatedly cannot fathom that I have four children, let alone a daughter in college. When she's at home she and I go out together shopping and people never believe we're mother and daughter. I'm very close to her now and we have a good friendship and relationship.

The nice thing is that I'm young and we have great kids and a fun family and I'm young enough to enjoy all of it. I'm blessed in that regard. Best of all, I am married to a funny, handsome, very successful man whom I adore. (Who is home today to take our kids to tennis camp for the afternoon.)

I hope I've satiated your curiosity for details?

NO, I wasn't accusing you of fabricating anything, which you should note by reading what I posted above. I stated that I was puzzled by your description and that I found it unusual. No need to confuse me with another poster when the words I wrote are available, unedited, above.

I am also in no way critising you for your strict action with your daughter. I agree fully that sometimes there's no other way.

While I appreciate the fact that you may have a "fun" family and that you may be more attractive than your years (by your own account), I have to state that you certainly don't come across as a "fun" person here, or even a remotely pleasant one for that matter. I don't follow your posting but the posts that I have seen of yours are very often full of invective, gut reaction and complaints. I don't think there's anything wrong with that in and of itself as no one is perfect and not everyone has an easy life, but I find it strange that you make such an effort to portray yourself as a picture of happiness, that is, unless you come here with the intention of letting off a little steam from time to time.
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Mar 4, 2004, 11:56 AM
 
Whatever.

You obviously don't read other posts I've posted at, then.

No, I'm not "happy" when I rant about some jerk who raped a 2-month old.

Why should I sound "happy" about that?

Or why should I sound "happy" posting in response to someone commenting on the explanation of "due process?"

It's not a "shiny happy people" thread as R.E.M. would say.

Funny thing is, a few days ago I posted a thread titled "Are You A Happy Person?"

I was happy that day and in that thread.

Anyway, that's all I have to say about a lot of things. See that I'm boring Li'l Baby Kitten, apparently.

My spouse says that the people posting here all have something wrong with their brains anyway...that they don't have normal lives if they're posting here continuously...says that "housewives MIGHT be exempted from that generalization because they might not have anything else to do," or "college students or retirees looking for entertainment," or but that the rest of the MacNN "Lounge" people "obviously have no lives or aren't 'all there' mentally."

Maybe he's right? Captain Misogynist/Obvious certainly fits that category it seems!



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Mar 4, 2004, 12:11 PM
 
Originally posted by iWrite:
My spouse says that the people posting here all have something wrong with their brains anyway...that they don't have normal lives if they're posting here continuously...says that "housewives MIGHT be exempted from that generalization because they might not have anything else to do," or "college students or retirees looking for entertainment," or but that the rest of the MacNN "Lounge" people "obviously have no lives or aren't 'all there' mentally."
Oh.

Well in that case, may I suggest you step away from the keyboard, return to your perfect life and leave all us 'little people' alone then?
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 12:12 PM
 
Originally posted by iWrite:
My spouse says that the people posting here all have something wrong with their brains anyway...that they don't have normal lives if they're posting here continuously...says that "housewives MIGHT be exempted from that generalization because they might not have anything else to do," or "college students or retirees looking for entertainment," or but that the rest of the MacNN "Lounge" people "obviously have no lives or aren't 'all there' mentally."
Echoing what was originally posted by iWrite:
Whatever.
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 12:18 PM
 
Originally posted by iWrite:
philzilla: Because one member considered my comments as "flaunting my 'success'" so I removed them.
1) I can't believe ONE poster made you tuck your tail and run on those subjects. 2) Flaunting or not, they got discussion going and removing them just f*cks it up for the rest of us.

On a side note: It would be helpful if you could use the "reply" button on posts every now and then. You seem to just reply to the whole topic at large with most posts and it makes it difficult in some cases to figure out what you're replying to. Especially when you reply to a post and you think you're replying directly after it but 2 or 3 other posters get in between. If you'd include the quote you're replying to, even a fraction of it, we'd be able to follow a lot better.

It's almost as bad as quandarry replying and then changing the text. I guess we're supposed to assume what post he's calling "bullsh¡t".
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 12:18 PM
 
Originally posted by iWrite:
My spouse says that the people posting here all have something wrong with their brains anyway...that they don't have normal lives if they're posting here continuously...says that "housewives MIGHT be exempted from that generalization because they might not have anything else to do," or "college students or retirees looking for entertainment," or but that the rest of the MacNN "Lounge" people "obviously have no lives or aren't 'all there' mentally."
Why is it that there is always someone in a forum who is insulting, and then doesn't understand why people find them unpleasant?

It begs the question why you choose to be in a forum where there are so many people with something wrong with their brain. Elevator not reach the top?
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 12:18 PM
 
Originally posted by iWrite:
My spouse says that the people posting here all have something wrong with their brains anyway...that they don't have normal lives if they're posting here continuously...says that "housewives MIGHT be exempted from that generalization because they might not have anything else to do," or "college students or retirees looking for entertainment," or but that the rest of the MacNN "Lounge" people "obviously have no lives or aren't 'all there' mentally."
funny your spouse feels so threatened by this forum that he should be so judgemental.
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Mar 4, 2004, 12:23 PM
 
Wow, calling the mass of the MacNN Lounge mentally handicapped sure got people's attention in a hurry. Congrats, you fun person, you. Sounds like a really great family you got there.
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 12:25 PM
 
Originally posted by iWrite:
BYE!
good riddance.
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Mar 4, 2004, 12:46 PM
 
Originally posted by iWrite:
My spouse says...

So keep on living And don`t start giving The devil good reasons To get you in the seasons of heartbreak Baby are you tough enough?
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 12:46 PM
 
Originally posted by iWrite:
First of all, she wasn't arrested. She was picked up. After three times she had skipped school. She was put there because she was told BY THE SCHOOL that they would pick her up and put her there. When she skipped again I received the phone call from the school, "Mrs. X? Your daughter is not in her morning math class today and we're worried about her." I hunted her down and called the school and asked for the school police and they came and got her. I remember it like it was yesterday: She was at the mall outside of "The Limited" clothing store drinking a soda with a bag of clothes in her hand that she had just purchased and she was talking on the telephone. You think that doesn't warrant serious attention?

You think I should just say, "You're not in school AGAIN. Oh, it's okay, sweetie. We'll work it out together as a family." HELL NO. She was 15, 5'9" tall, long hair, beautiful girl and looked older than she was. It was for her own good that strict measures were taken. Carlie Brucia was just abducted walking home from a friend's house and murdered by Joseph Smith (Sarasota, Florida) and other young girls are abducted and found dead later. So, I should just let her do what she wants? Pick her up and say, "Tsk, tsk, tsk." NO. I got professionals involved: The school, the police, and a child psychologist. It worked. She didn't skip school again and she understood boundaries and why they are there -- for her own safety and well being. It took a "tough love" intervention to stop the behavior because after it happened several times, being "nice and understanding" was not working. We're talking about a girl who looked older than her age, was very smart, was very popular at school, and has a lot of confidence. She was ripe for getting into a situation that would have been harmful for her.

Second of all, the ages of my children are irrelevant. But, yes, I have a 20 year old daughter, an 11 year old son (soon to be 12), a 3 year old, and a little baby due any day.

What's the problem with that? Why would I lie about it? That's just bizarre that because you or Captain Misogynist thinks it doesn't make sense chronologically that you think I'm fabricating it. Very amusing!

What is even more amusing is if you were to meet me because people repeatedly cannot fathom that I have four children, let alone a daughter in college. When she's at home she and I go out together shopping and people never believe we're mother and daughter. I'm very close to her now and we have a good friendship and relationship.

The nice thing is that I'm young and we have great kids and a fun family and I'm young enough to enjoy all of it. I'm blessed in that regard. Best of all, I am married to a funny, handsome, very successful man whom I adore. (Who is home today to take our kids to tennis camp for the afternoon.)

I hope I've satiated your curiosity for details?

Always have to sneak in the little "I've got money" stuff; "She was at the mall outside of "The Limited" clothing store drinking a soda with a bag of clothes in her hand that she had just purchased..." "Best of all, I' am married to a funny, handsome, very successful man whom I adore. (Who is home today to take our kids to tennis camp for the afternoon.)"

We already know that you live in a gated community, that you socialize with the well off, that you recently wrote a check for $87K to pay off your credit card bills, that you buy two or three Macs a year for home use,............

I'm 56 years old. I've been around a while, and I've been dealing with the public a good chunk of the 40 years I've been working. I can't remember more than a couple of instances of people who so blatantly brag to complete strangers about what they have financially. Hmmmmm.
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guess i'm not "all there mentally" because i never even thought about hitting the button on the right.

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