[Nergol]

Hey all;

So for absolutely no reason whatsoever, Safari has started locking up on me whenever I start it up. I start it, the Safari menu appears in the top menu, but all I get is a beach ball cursor, and that's it. After a few minutes, I've had to Force Quit it every time. I've tried several restarts, deleting preferences, and restoring the application from a Time Machine backup - nothing works. Fortunately, I also have Firefox, which seems to be working fine.

The only thing I did between the last timeI started it up and this time was to burn a disc in Toast. I can hardly imagine that did much of anything. But obviously, something got corrupted.

So can anyone think of a fix? Or, if not, does anyone know how I can completely uninstall and completely reinstall Safari?

I'm on a 1st Gen MacBook, 10.5.5, 2GB RAM, in case you're interested.

[Big Mac]

Yeah, those inexplicable crashes are difficult at times, especially when you've performed the normal remedies like deleting preferences and still get no satisfaction. Are there any relevant Console messages?

[Nergol]

How would I find any relevant console messages?

[Big Mac]

Not entirely sure. Look around the Log List in Console (/Applications/Utilities/Console)

[Nergol]

This is what I got in Console between a couple crashes/restarts:


Does that shed light on anything?

[Big Mac]

It references the MagicMenuHotKeyDaemon (whatever that may be) right after Safari gets terminated. Can you try disabling that?

[Nergol]

How would I go about doing that?

[angelmb]

Isn't MagicMenu part of a StuffIt Deluxe installation?, I can remember it from Mac OS 9 days… when it was sort of worth.

[Cold Warrior]

Delete com.apple.safari from ~/Library/Caches

What do you have in hard drive/Library/InputManagers?

[Nergol]

Thanks for the help so far, all.

Yes, I did install Stuffit Deluxe recently. If there's a way to turn Magic Menu off, I'd like to. I can quit it, but I can't seem to tell it not to load at startup.

I already deleted com.apple.safari from ~/library/Caches, and that didn't help.

I don't have an InputManagers folder under /hard drive/Library. I have InputMethods, but no InputManagers.

[Big Mac]

I'm not sure where it's located, but that daemon definitely appears to be the cause of a variety problems for other people. You may need to do an Archive and Install if you can't figure out where it's located.

[Nergol]

Well, tried everything. Nothing works. And this is the second time in six months this has happened to me - the first over this summer, which I solved by a reformat/reinstall of the OS. So, with no further ideas, I've just given up on Safari. I deleted the application and every support file I could find, and changed my default browser to Firefox. So, better luck next time, Apple - maybe I'll try Safari again when a new version release comes out.

[CatOne]

It's not Safari. Do you have any Safari "extensions" like Saft? Your Console log isn't showing anything... you need to post the Safari crash logs themselves... they'll be in ~/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Safari.crash.log and will probably indicate you have a plug-in (Flash, Saft, SafariStand, 1Password, PithHelmet) which is causing the crash.

The reason the OS re-install fixed the issue is it was a while before you re-installed whatever extension is causing your issues. In 6 years of using Safari on multiple machines, I've seriously had it crash like 10 times.

[Nergol]

Found them, but when I double click on one it brings up a console window which is blank except at the bottom it says I do not have permission to read this log.

[gustavopi]

I'm already got the same trouble, crashing Safari at start. In my case, was a DivX plug-in version. Something very specific. I'd made a downgrade to a previous version and wait for a new release. At this point Safari returns to work. Than I install a newer version and noproblemo.

Something is making Safari to crash, you should research for last changes on your system. Safari is a good quickly browser - I think you should fix it.