[outSIDe]

Hi there ...

Still new to the whole UNIX thing, and after searching the forum I didn't see this. Please bear with me if it's a painfully stupid question.

Downloaded Apple's X11. Love it!
Downloaded Gimp and GTK+ from OpenDarwin.org. Installed them with the included installer - both installed successfully.

No idea how to run Gimp. Founds some of its MANs, read them. Found (I think) the main Gimp app (Gimp-1.2?), tried different commands in Terminal.

Is there a step I missed? I'm assuming Apple's X11 is its own windows manager ... or do I need to download one to make Gimp work? (AbiWord runs fine on just X11.)

Thank you so much!

[DaGuy]

Launch a terminal session and type:

gimp &


The ampersand just runs it as a background process.

[outSIDe]

Originally posted by DaGuy:
Launch a terminal session and type:

gimp &

The ampersand just runs it as a background process.


I get "gimp: command not found"

[trusted_content]

Its not currently included in your shell path. Do you know where it installed?

Frankly I find you have many less hassles if you use the fink method.

You said you found the file... type the path in the terminal to launch:

i. e.

%/directory/directory/gimp

And you have to be typing this from a terminal in XDarwin or Apple's X11.

[DaGuy]

Gimp is installed in your home directory as a dot file and the executable is placed in /usr/local/bin. This means that you can launch it by typing the fully qualified path to the executable:

/usr/local/bin/gimp &

If for some reason the above does not work then type:

which gimp

and it will return the path for executable.

If you get sick of typing, then there are other alternatives such as creating an alias or simply including /usr/local/bin in your environment PATH variable. To see what's in your path type:

echo $PATH

Searching this forum should yied discussions on how to set the path variable. Hope it helps.

[slimmy]

Whenever I use fink or Finkcommander to install a package, I get, for ex:

checking for mawk... no
checking for gawk... no
checking for nawk... no
checking for awk... awk
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... no
checking build system type... powerpc-apple-darwin6.3
checking host system type... powerpc-apple-darwin6.3
checking for style of include used by make... none
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cl... no
configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
### execution of ./configure failed, exit code 1
Failed: compiling audiofile-0.2.3-4 failed

I seem not to have the compiler. How do I get it and install it?

I'm NEW to X and UNIX.

slimmy

Originally posted by DaGuy:
Gimp is installed in your home directory as a dot file and the executable is placed in /usr/local/bin. This means that you can launch it by typing the fully qualified path to the executable:

/usr/local/bin/gimp &

If for some reason the above does not work then type:

which gimp

and it will return the path for executable.

If you get sick of typing, then there are other alternatives such as creating an alias or simply including /usr/local/bin in your environment PATH variable. To see what's in your path type:

echo $PATH

Searching this forum should yied discussions on how to set the path variable. Hope it helps.

[Arkham_c]

Originally posted by slimmy:
Whenever I use fink or Finkcommander to install a package, I get, for ex:

...
configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
### execution of ./configure failed, exit code 1
Failed: compiling audiofile-0.2.3-4 failed

I seem not to have the compiler. How do I get it and install it?

Install the Developer Tools package. To get these, you need to join the ADC and download them (joining is free). http://connect.apple.com/

[outSIDe]

Originally posted by DaGuy:
Gimp is installed in your home directory as a dot file and the executable is placed in /usr/local/bin. This means that you can launch it by typing the fully qualified path to the executable:

/usr/local/bin/gimp &

Thank you so much!
What threw me off is I was in the same directory as Gimp, so I assumed it would know where it is.
This is what ended up working: /usr/local/bin/gimp-1.2 &

Today I face a new challenge: I got Gimp to load and run (thanks to you), but it's seeing all images as black boxes. I think it has something to do with this message in my terminal:

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
dyld: perl multiple definitions of symbol _PLUG_IN_INFO
/Library/Perl/darwin/auto/Gimp/Lib/Lib.bundle definition of _PLUG_IN_INFO
/Library/Perl/darwin/auto/Gimp/UI/UI.bundle definition of _PLUG_IN_INFO

LibGimp-WARNING **: gimp-1.2: wire_read: unexpected EOF

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library

I'm pretty sure it's the Gdk-WARNING line, as that reappears when I try to preview or open an image. The OpenDarwin installer seems to have put everything in the right place. Maybe I messed up when I downloaded both GTK 1.2.10 and 2.0.9?

Again, thanks for your help and patience.

[DaGuy]

Cool, glad it helped.

In regards to your latest problem. That one, I'm not familiar with but I do know that gimp depends on a GTK library that is also available at opendarwin.org. You may want to check that you installed the correct prerequisite library.

[outSIDe]

Originally posted by DaGuy:
Cool, glad it helped.

In regards to your latest problem. That one, I'm not familiar with but I do know that gimp depends on a GTK library that is also available at opendarwin.org. You may want to check that you installed the correct prerequisite library.

Yeah, I actually installed two of them.
I have a feeling that may be the main cause of the problem. I remember OpenDarwin's Aqua-based installer for GTK and Gimp did not have an "uininstall" option, however, so my next project is to find UNIX tips on "uninstalling" or removing everything related to a certain package. Since many of the little components (I know my terminology probably is way off) have names other than the name of the package, I'm a little stumped by this.

If I knew how to start a remote tab I'd buy you a Freestate pint for the help! I'm emboldened by the fact I actually got Gimp running!

[DaGuy]

I think your uninstall approach is sound. Unix software is not as friendly as we Mac users are acustomed to.



We are a spoiled demanding bunch -the way it should be!




Best of luck -you're pretty close.

[Metzen]

Originally posted by outSIDe:
Yeah, I actually installed two of them.
I have a feeling that may be the main cause of the problem. I remember OpenDarwin's Aqua-based installer for GTK and Gimp did not have an "uininstall" option, however, so my next project is to find UNIX tips on "uninstalling" or removing everything related to a certain package. Since many of the little components (I know my terminology probably is way off) have names other than the name of the package, I'm a little stumped by this.

What you needed was this:

Uninstaller

Too late now, I guess... (judged by the description of how the software is susposed to work)

[slimmy]

When I do this, I get:

[1] 491
dyld: /usr/local/bin/gimp-1.2 can't open library: /usr/local/lib/libgtk-1.2.0.dylib (No such file or directory, errno = 2)

I'm new to this, so what gives?

slimmy

Originally posted by outSIDe:
Thank you so much!
What threw me off is I was in the same directory as Gimp, so I assumed it would know where it is.
This is what ended up working: /usr/local/bin/gimp-1.2 &

Today I face a new challenge: I got Gimp to load and run (thanks to you), but it's seeing all images as black boxes. I think it has something to do with this message in my terminal:

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
dyld: perl multiple definitions of symbol _PLUG_IN_INFO
/Library/Perl/darwin/auto/Gimp/Lib/Lib.bundle definition of _PLUG_IN_INFO
/Library/Perl/darwin/auto/Gimp/UI/UI.bundle definition of _PLUG_IN_INFO

LibGimp-WARNING **: gimp-1.2: wire_read: unexpected EOF

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library

I'm pretty sure it's the Gdk-WARNING line, as that reappears when I try to preview or open an image. The OpenDarwin installer seems to have put everything in the right place. Maybe I messed up when I downloaded both GTK 1.2.10 and 2.0.9?

Again, thanks for your help and patience.

[mrfrost]

I also have the problem with gimp opening images as black boxes.

[AirRon]

I followed all of the directions, I am also getting black boxes with JPEG's (occasionally with noise at one edge . . .)