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M$-WiMPod: An iPod Killer ... I think not!
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Mar 18, 2004, 09:03 PM
 
So looks like M$ is finally getting into the game of MP3 players and eyes to unseat iPod, with it's another uninventive and uninspired POS product. Creative and some other Korean company is developing it and M$ will retail it for 678-738 USD (what say you iPod/iPod Mini nay sayers!)

The Creative player weighs in at 330 grams (11.5 ounces) -- roughly three times as thick as an iPod and roughly twice as long to accommodate its television-quality color screen.
So far it looks good for a hernia!



But no doubt the winblows weenies will hail it as another outstanding achievement.

EDIT: here's the link
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Mar 18, 2004, 09:19 PM
 
Will it have wheels?
     
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Mar 18, 2004, 09:31 PM
 
Originally posted by insha:
But no doubt the winblows weenies will hail it as another outstanding achievement
Just as the Apple "weenies" would if a video iPod comes out
     
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Mar 18, 2004, 09:38 PM
 
Originally posted by I Me Mine:
Just as the Apple "weenies" would if a video iPod comes out
hey i am not a weenie

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Mar 18, 2004, 09:40 PM
 
Must have built-in xbox and webtv features.
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Mar 18, 2004, 09:40 PM
 
Oh and it runs on WinCE.
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Mar 18, 2004, 09:44 PM
 
The only way it'll kill my ipod is if you dropped one on it.
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Mar 18, 2004, 09:48 PM
 
MS is RIGHT! I can SEE people LUGGING that around instead of a iPod while they jog!

I wont be cumbersome at all!

MS knows how to take over companies and make software.

It doesn't know form factor at all.
     
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Mar 18, 2004, 09:51 PM
 
I'm no expert, but I don't think there is a market for a tiny video player, especially at an iBook price.
     
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Mar 18, 2004, 09:54 PM
 
Any pic of it yet?
     
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Mar 18, 2004, 10:04 PM
 
I wonder if you can kill a dolphin with it?
     
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Mar 18, 2004, 10:06 PM
 
I hardly think this is going to be the iPod killer. Especially not with the mini iPod out.
     
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Mar 18, 2004, 10:13 PM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
I wont be cumbersome at all!
a wise man once said:

"you are only as cumbersome as your written English"

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Mar 18, 2004, 10:14 PM
 
Originally posted by forkies:
a wise man once said:

"you are only as cumbersome as your written English"
     
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Mar 18, 2004, 10:28 PM
 
I can't wait. Just what I was looking for - the Blue Screen of Death on my mp3 player.
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Mar 18, 2004, 10:42 PM
 
In other news, Microsoft introduces an ear bud cell phone, so tiny it will fit in your ear eliminating the bulky cell phones of past.

     
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Mar 18, 2004, 11:23 PM
 
Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
In other news, Microsoft introduces an ear bud cell phone, so tiny it will fit in your ear eliminating the bulky cell phones of past.

ROLFLMAO

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Mar 18, 2004, 11:53 PM
 
This from the company who invented that media center pc with the phone attached to the monitor.
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Mar 18, 2004, 11:57 PM
 
Originally posted by Face Ache:
Will it have wheels?
and a retractable handle out the top.

mitchell_pgh: LMAO! i will never tire of that image. that one and the one with the guy with the cellphone taped to his head.
     
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Mar 19, 2004, 12:07 PM
 
Seriously, does anyone think that a video player with a 2 inch screen is all that great of an innovation? I can listen to the same song a thousand times and not get sick of it, but how many times are you going to watch a movie on that itty-bitty screen? I'll stick with my small, sleek, cool, considerably smaller (and cheaper) iPod, thanks all the same.
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Mar 19, 2004, 12:43 PM
 
There was a picture of it in the paper today. Pretty dull.

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Mar 19, 2004, 12:46 PM
 
Originally posted by - - e r i k - -:
There was a picture of it in the paper today. Pretty dull.
Link please?
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Mar 19, 2004, 12:47 PM
 
Originally posted by ghost_flash:
Link please?
Odd as it may seem, you just can't link to paper. Nor can you find your lost keys with a search engine.

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Mar 19, 2004, 12:49 PM
 
Originally posted by - - e r i k - -:
Nor can you find your lost keys with a search engine.
Heh I want a cmd-f for finding my keys.
     
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Mar 19, 2004, 12:51 PM
 
But then again, there's a video of the device right on Microsoft's homepage:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobi...ters/demo.mspx

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Mar 19, 2004, 12:52 PM
 
I'll take ten of them..right now.
     
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Mar 19, 2004, 12:54 PM
 
Originally posted by - - e r i k - -:
But then again, there's a video of the device right on Microsoft's homepage:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobi...ters/demo.mspx
heh, iPod replacement? NO

Not even competing with the iPod.

MS sucks at marketing.
     
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Mar 19, 2004, 12:58 PM
 
I could only find this picture of it though:


Apparently with the Portable Media Center I'll be able to teleport with cool looking lines all while listening to my music, wathing my TV, viewing my pictures and shooting my head.
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Mar 19, 2004, 01:00 PM
 
Originally posted by dampeoples:
I'm no expert, but I don't think there is a market for a tiny video player, especially at an iBook price.
lol! Will you say the same thing when Apple releases the video capable iPod?
     
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Mar 19, 2004, 01:15 PM
 
I know I am probably alone in this opinion but I would love a small combined music/video player. The operative word being small here, about iPod size would do me.

I travel an awful lot and the ability to blank out in-flight 'entertainment' would be worth the cash to me. And who says you'd have to watch it on a small screen? Add some screen goggles and you're away, immersion style.
     
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Mar 19, 2004, 01:21 PM
 
Originally posted by - - e r i k - -:
I could only find this picture of it though:


Apparently with the Portable Media Center I'll be able to teleport with cool looking lines all while listening to my music, wathing my TV, viewing my pictures and shooting my head.
What is it with MS and there dumb 'My' naming convantion anyway? Outside of 'My Documents' non of it really makes any sense.
'My Music' the record industry is attempting to convince people that it's never really your music, you just have a licence to play it. 'My TV' is possibly the dumbest programe option I have seen in my life. I dont know about evrybody else but MY TV is a big thing sitting the corner of my front room.
     
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Mar 19, 2004, 01:21 PM
 
Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
lol! Will you say the same thing when Apple releases the video capable iPod?
Not if they design it better then that thing...

To small to watch, to big to carry around... Cool for the �bergeek in all of us, but other then that...
     
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Mar 19, 2004, 01:26 PM
 
the reason the iPod is doing so well is that it's designed for the non nerd group. It's also at the price where wealth-ish kids can purchase it.
     
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Mar 19, 2004, 01:35 PM
 
You're all missing one other important fact: It's got a USB connection. I know USB 2.0 is faster, but the thought of transferring hours of movies via USB just turns me off.
     
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Mar 19, 2004, 01:42 PM
 
It's not an iPod killer. But it being the size of a small portable tv, plus it plays music, it's not a bad idea. However, at $700 I'll be okay without one

Originally posted by Zimphire:
heh, iPod replacement? NO

Not even competing with the iPod.

MS sucks at marketing.
Heh, I always thought Microsoft was a great marketing company.

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Mar 19, 2004, 01:44 PM
 
Originally posted by Arclite:
You're all missing one other important fact: It's got a USB connection. I know USB 2.0 is faster, but the thought of transferring hours of movies via USB just turns me off.
Creative's press release mentions USB 2.0

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Originally posted by Arclite:
You're all missing one other important fact: It's got a USB connection. I know USB 2.0 is faster, but the thought of transferring hours of movies via USB just turns me off.
USB 2.0 is only faster on paper. It's not faster IRL compared to FW 400 or the new (800)?
     
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Mar 19, 2004, 01:54 PM
 
At $700, it's going to fail because consumers are going to ay "then why not just get a cheap Windows laptop and a cool iPod."
     
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Originally posted by soul searching:
It's not an iPod killer.

Exactly

But it being the size of a small portable tv, plus it plays music, it's not a bad idea.
No, not at all. I'd LOVE one that ran OS X.


However, at $700 I'll be okay without one
Indeed, considering I was kicking and screaming at paying $1000 for my G4.

Heh, I always thought Microsoft was a great marketing company.
Eh..
     
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Mar 19, 2004, 02:11 PM
 
Originally posted by soul searching:
Heh, I always thought Microsoft was a great marketing company.
I've always felt they were good as well. They use rather unorthodox methods, but they work.

They are:

1) All talk and eye candy, no specifications.

2) Version 1.0 is FREE* (until you get the bugs worked out, then we will charge out the a$S, oh and it can't be uninstalled without going through loops)

3) Include it (or integrate it) in to the OS (while crippling the competitions applications)

4) Blatant lies like "We use standards" translation "We use our proprietary standards"

5) Release a version that's 1/2 the competition until they are killed off, then charge 2X as much forever.

6) FUD FUD FUD, and pay SCO to scare the industry in to using their products.

I think I got them all...
     
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Mar 19, 2004, 03:16 PM
 
it reminds me of a sega gamegear
     
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Mar 19, 2004, 03:24 PM
 
Originally posted by insha
If you drop the WiMpod directly over the iPod then yes, it is an iPod killer.
     
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Mar 19, 2004, 03:36 PM
 
I laugh at microsoft. Late to the party, again. Maybe they'll do like with the xbox and make it 4 times the size of the ipod to impress everyone. If they've got so much money, why don't they hire someone with a bit of vision? It's all half arsed.
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Mar 19, 2004, 03:48 PM
 
Originally posted by OB1:
I laugh at microsoft. Late to the party, again.
Don't get too overconfident. Apple has had similar moments. But when they do decided to get into a certain market at least they add to it and improve the concept. All M$() did was make it heavier and blah. They just want to cash in and put in minimal effort as possible.
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Originally posted by mdc:
it reminds me of a sega gamegear
Ha ha, that's the exact same thing I thought when I saw it.

Really, I clicked the link, expecting to see something bigger than the iPod but not huge. I figured people on here were probably exaggerating, given that this is a Mac forum and all. Then I saw it. HOLY SH*T, that thing is huge!

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Mar 19, 2004, 11:44 PM
 
Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
lol! Will you say the same thing when Apple releases the video capable iPod?
Yes. I bought an iBook for the DVD player, got the other stuff as a bonus.
     
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Mar 20, 2004, 12:43 AM
 
Originally posted by Adam Betts:
Any pic of it yet?

Like the stealth bomber, vaporware is notoriously difficult to photograph.
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Mar 20, 2004, 01:26 AM
 
The only reasonable portable video solution I think will be once we get monitor "glasses" until then we'll always have people complaining about it.
     
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Originally posted by wolfen:
Like the stealth bomber, vaporware is notoriously difficult to photograph.
Heh
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