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The Final Dakar
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Sep 1, 2010, 02:47 PM
 
I think it was nonhuman that worked for Discovery, though I don't know if he was at HQ. Either way hopefully whatever forum member I'm thinking in checks in later/is ok.
     
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Sep 1, 2010, 03:20 PM
 
Hostage Situation at Discovery Channel Headquarters
Update: The hostage-taker has been identified as James Jay Lee, whose grievances with the Discovery Channel go back a few years. In 2008, he led a "lengthy" protest against the network's headquarters and was eventually arrested for disorderly conduct. You can check out his hilarious list of demands and grievances ("The humans? The planet does not need humans") from the 2008 protest here.
     
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Sep 1, 2010, 04:21 PM
 
This guy is sounding like environmentalism's version of the Westboro Baptist Church.

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At the time of his conviction in March 2008, Lee was identified as being from San Diego. Court records said he was arrested Feb. 21, 2008, on the sixth day of a protest at the Discovery building. Police were called when a crowd that had gathered began growing “unruly” as Lee threw thousands of dollars of cash into the air, some of it still in shrink-wrapped packages, police said at the time. (Lee was found not guilty of littering.)

Lee said he experienced an ‘‘awakening” when he watched former Vice President Al Gore’s environmental documentary ‘‘An Inconvenient Truth.”
     
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Sep 1, 2010, 04:26 PM
 
Yes, exactly.
     
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Awe man. I was getting used to the idea that only conservatives were terrorists.
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Sep 1, 2010, 05:33 PM
 
Sounds like all the hostages were rescued safely, even tho' his device went off after he was shot.
     
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Sep 1, 2010, 06:07 PM
 
What did it do?
     
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Sep 1, 2010, 06:17 PM
 
I'm definitely glad all the hostages are safe. Sorry the guy was killed in the process.

In regards to Dakar's question: Link

Manger said the suspect had "metalic canisters" strapped to his chest and back. When Lee was struck by police bullets, one of the canisters "popped." Police have not confirmed if the canisters were a bomb, but Manger said the "device may have gone off" when he was shot.
     
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Sep 1, 2010, 06:21 PM
 
What a wackadoo. Glad no one else was hurt.
     
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Sep 1, 2010, 06:32 PM
 
Well, I do agree with the dude on people popping out babies for no reason. A lot of people I went to HS with have offspring; and almost 100% of said people are worthless wastes of skin. Seems like the 'intelligent' people haven't decided to pop babies out of their vaginas yet.
     
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Sep 1, 2010, 06:44 PM
 
Originally Posted by downinflames68 View Post
Well, I do agree with the dude on people popping out babies for no reason. A lot of people I went to HS with have offspring; and almost 100% of said people are worthless wastes of skin. Seems like the 'intelligent' people haven't decided to pop babies out of their vaginas yet.
Do you have to be so abrasive all the time?
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Sep 1, 2010, 06:52 PM
 
I haven't even read a book about babies and I know that's wrong.

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Sep 1, 2010, 06:52 PM
 
??? Sorry, didn't think I was insulting anybody. Most people around here are fairly smart.
     
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Sep 1, 2010, 07:48 PM
 
I do indeed work at Discovery, and I was indeed in the office when this went down. I can't really add anything to what's been reported on the news (which is how I found out most of it myself), but here's the summary I've been giving out:

Originally Posted by nonhuman
At about 1pm an armed gunman (rather redundant, I know, but just doesn't seem right any other way) entered the lobby of the Discovery Communications offices wearing what appeared to be a bomb. He took three hostages.

My desk is maybe 300' from where this happened and up one floor. The police responded very quickly and the building was locked down almost before we even knew anything was going on. In fairly short order, and after they had ensured that any dangerous persons were identified and contained, we (about 1900 employees in that office) were evacuated and then sent home.

A standoff ensued and continued for several hours while the police 'negotiated' with the hostage-taker, a rather unstable individual who's been fixated on the Discovery Channel for quite a while and led a 'protest' by homeless people he paid to attend about two years ago. He posted a manifesto online demanding that Discovery Channel air content encouraging the voluntary extinction of the human race in order to preserve the planet.

[At around 4:30 pm] he was shot and killed. All three hostages were rescued safely. The only casualty that I'm aware of is the amazingly delicious homemade enchilada that I was eating for lunch and had to leave at my desk half-finished (I was really looking forward to that lunch ).

It's been a crazy ****ing day.
I'm not generally a big fan of government in general or of the police specifically, but I really do have to commend and thank the Montgomery County Police Department. Their response was incredibly quick and effective, and they got all of us, including the hostages, out alive.

And yes, entirely thanks to this guy I missed the Stevenote.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
What did it do?
I've been wondering the same thing... All the reports say it went off, but none of them say what that means. I guess I'll find out when I go to work and the lobby either has or hasn't been exploded...
     
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Originally Posted by Rumor View Post
Do you have to be so abrasive all the time?
FWIW, I'm with Ca$h on this one.
     
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Originally Posted by Jawbone54 View Post
I'm definitely glad all the hostages are safe.
Very glad! These are people I work with every day, even if not directly.

Sorry the guy was killed in the process.
I am not. Not at all.
     
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Sep 1, 2010, 08:10 PM
 
Sounds like a trying day. Glad you (and all the employees) made it through okay.
     
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Originally Posted by nonhuman View Post
I am not. Not at all.
Yeah, he might've messed up Shark week for everyone.
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Originally Posted by olePigeon View Post
Yeah, he might've messed up Shark week for everyone.
Shark week was last month.
     
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??? Sorry, didn't think I was insulting anybody. Most people around here are fairly smart.
Not insulted at all, it's just you are very abrasive almost all the time. It gets a bit tiring.
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Good riddance to another looney. I hope it hurt. A LOT.
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Originally Posted by nonhuman View Post
Shark week was last month.
Every week is Shark Week in the Jawbone household.

Also, glad you and your co-workers are all right. The more I read about this story, the more I realize this could've turned out a lot worse. I didn't previously know you worked there; sweet!
     
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Environmentalist? No. Not a single mentions of trees, plants, or ocean.

More like I hate humans and animals are better. More like a PETA fanatic.

Humans suck, humans are filth, stop having babies, stop anchor babies. Save the animals.


His list of demands.

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Sep 2, 2010, 04:52 PM
 
Whoops, completely forgot about this thread.

Originally Posted by nonhuman View Post
I do indeed work at Discovery, and I was indeed in the office when this went down.
More right than I would have liked. Well, glad not to lose a NN member (Have you seen our numbers lately?!).

Originally Posted by nonhuman View Post
I'm not generally a big fan of government in general or of the police specifically, but I really do have to commend and thank the Montgomery County Police Department.
Only on MacNN.

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Originally Posted by Jawbone54 View Post
Sorry the guy was killed in the process.
Originally Posted by smacintush View Post
Good riddance to another looney. I hope it hurt. A LOT.
Somehow, I agree with neither of these statements.
     
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Awe man. I was getting used to the idea that only conservatives were terrorists.
you forgot about ELF, PETA, and Greenpeace.
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Greenpeace aren't terrorists. Dogmatic yes, annoying at times yes, Terrorists no.
     
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Not here people. Take it to another thread.
     
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I think PETA is doing a wonderful job for those poor animals.

(gasoline meet match)
     
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Originally Posted by nonhuman View Post
I am not. Not at all.
Let's put it this way: the moment he put other's lives in danger, he opened himself up to the use of deadly force by the police. I have no qualms with that.

Still...it sucks to see people die (or get themselves killed) for stupid reasons.
     
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Originally Posted by Jawbone54 View Post
Still...it sucks to see people die (or get themselves killed) for stupid reasons.
I think there's a question to be brought up of what should happen/be done with some crazy people. I don't use the term crazy lightly here; If you advocate the extermination of your own race, something is profoundly wrong with you.

Since he was arrested in 2008 for trying a much meeker version of this, I'm left wondering what the timeline of events that lead up to this looked like.
     
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Originally Posted by Jawbone54 View Post
Let's put it this way: the moment he put other's lives in danger, he opened himself up to the use of deadly force by the police. I have no qualms with that.

Still...it sucks to see people die (or get themselves killed) for stupid reasons.
That I agree with. However I have no qualms whatsoever with a dangerously unstable person being removed from society.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
I think there's a question to be brought up of what should happen/be done with some crazy people. I don't use the term crazy lightly here; If you advocate the extermination of your own race, something is profoundly wrong with you.

Since he was arrested in 2008 for trying a much meeker version of this, I'm left wondering what the timeline of events that lead up to this looked like.
Personally, I would say that a person has an absolute right to life up and until the point where they become a valid threat to the safety of others. If the only way to save a life is to take the life of the person threatening them, then so be it.

As far as crazy goes, I personally believe that their mental status should be irrelevant when it comes to the question of whether or not to remove them from society (one way or the other). Perhaps there are valid reasons to put them into a hospital rather than a prison, but regardless they are probably more dangerous than a sane person with criminal tendencies and that should be taken into account when dealing with them.
     
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Personally, I would say that a person has an absolute right to life up and until the point where they become a valid threat to the safety of others.
I think someone driving 30mph over the limit through traffic honking, flashing lights, and waving signs poses a valid threat...
     
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Reported for trolling.
     
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Greenpeace aren't terrorists. Dogmatic yes, annoying at times yes, Terrorists no.
Bullsh*t, I happen to know people in Greenpeace, and I'm related to one. I know they do destructive things to achieve their goals, that's one of the reasons I have nothing to do with her anymore.
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Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
I think someone driving 30mph over the limit through traffic honking, flashing lights, and waving signs poses a valid threat...
The man speaks the truth.

I’m glad that you’re okay nonhuman I’d hate to see a respected MacNN person be gone.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
If you advocate the extermination of your own race, something is profoundly wrong with you.
There is irony in the fact that his was the only death.
     
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Originally Posted by brassplayersrock² View Post
The man speaks the truth.

I’m glad that you’re okay nonhuman I’d hate to see a respected MacNN person be gone.
I'm respected!
     
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Reported for trolling.
Can't take a little good-natured ribbing?
     
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Originally Posted by nonhuman View Post
Personally, I would say that a person has an absolute right to life up and until the point where they become a valid threat to the safety of others. If the only way to save a life is to take the life of the person threatening them, then so be it.
That's pretty much my stance.

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There is irony in the fact that his was the only death.
Only if he didn't want to die.
     
   
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