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Weyland-Yutani · Apr 4, 2006, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

Give it a rest WY, we get your point. However, for some of us, this is an excellent update, and more sigificant than the 10.4.4 update. YMMV.

Give it a rest Eug, we get your point as well. However, for some of us, this is a lame update, and far less significant than the 10.4.4 update. YMMV.

cheers

W-Y

Etnier · Apr 4, 2006, 10:41 AM

I have CHUD_3.5.2 installed so as to enable Nap on my MDD DP. Should I remove this before installation?

SMacTech · Apr 4, 2006, 10:44 AM

It is a good update for intel Mac owners who rely on the MacHelp because it was totally broke in 10.4.5!

WY: As underwhelming as it is for you, there are some of us that welcomed it. Everyone would wish for some new cool feature, but this was a mere bug fix update.

Weyland-Yutani · Apr 4, 2006, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by SMacTech

It is a good update for intel Mac owners who rely on the MacHelp because it was totally broke in 10.4.5!

WY: As underwhelming as it is for you, there are some of us that welcomed it. Everyone would wish for some new cool feature, but this was a mere bug fix update.

Good to hear

cheers

W-Y

Webscreamer · Apr 4, 2006, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Weyland-Yutani

Give it a rest Eug, we get your point as well. However, for some of us, this is a lame update, and far less significant than the 10.4.4 update. YMMV.

cheers

W-Y

For some of us, it fixed important workflow bugs, and others it didn't fix any of their bugs... can we shut up now?

tooki · Apr 4, 2006, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Weyland-Yutani

Give it a rest Eug, we get your point as well. However, for some of us, this is a lame update, and far less significant than the 10.4.4 update. YMMV.

cheers

W-Y

OK W-Y, that's enough out of you. Eug was exactly right -- and fair -- in his post, now you're just being childish and nasty.

tooki

Dark Helmet · Apr 4, 2006, 11:13 AM

Heck for me it was worth it just for the w600i phone support.

Thanks Apple.

Weyland-Yutani · Apr 4, 2006, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by tooki

OK W-Y, that's enough out of you. Eug was exactly right -- and fair -- in his post, now you're just being childish and nasty.

tooki

Nothing nasty about my post, just my opinion. Surely not worth less than anyone else's?

cheers

W-Y

brassplayersrock² · Apr 4, 2006, 11:33 AM

how does one check to see if there phone can sync with the computer?

Dark Helmet · Apr 4, 2006, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by brassplayersrock

how does one check to see if there phone can sync with the computer?

You check the isync support page.

SirCastor · Apr 4, 2006, 12:00 PM

My phone doesn't "reject some of the changes" anymore. Excellent.

ctbritt · Apr 4, 2006, 12:33 PM

Rats... 10.4.6 didn't fix my issues with iCal, detailed here. Anyone have any ideas?

WOPR · Apr 4, 2006, 12:35 PM

Since 10.4.6 several posters seem to like seeing their name in print way too often. Will there be a fix?

DigitalEl · Apr 4, 2006, 12:42 PM

Did this fix the Spotlight glitch for anyone still having that problem (and where deleting the spotlight.plist files didn't help)?

tooki · Apr 4, 2006, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Weyland-Yutani

Nothing nasty about my post, just my opinion. Surely not worth less than anyone else's?

You were mocking his post, like a child. That is worth nothing.

tooki

stevesnj · Apr 4, 2006, 01:30 PM

Quicktime movie trailers wont play when I choose Large versions of a trailer. i was watching large versions before i updated...this is not good

Weyland-Yutani · Apr 4, 2006, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by tooki

You were mocking his post, like a child. That is worth nothing.

tooki

Ergo, since my post was identical to his and mine was, according to you mocking, then his post was mocking.

Why all the interest in me tooki? You keep following me around and pestering me. Changing my threads, making up rules etc. just to jab at me.

Stop it please.

W-Y

Dark Helmet · Apr 4, 2006, 02:09 PM

Weyland-Yutani SHUT UP already. Hell you are on my ignore list and you are still annoying.

FireWire · Apr 4, 2006, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Weyland-Yutani SHUT UP already.

More than seconded

Webscreamer · Apr 4, 2006, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by FireWire

More than seconded

SLiMeX · Apr 4, 2006, 02:42 PM

If it makes anyone feel better, I haven't noticed a difference on my iMac. As for my iBook, we'll see - its at Apple being serviced right now. She's getting her fourth motherboard put in!

PS. I fyou have any idea what might be frying the motherboard, please PM with suggestions, I could possibly pinpoint it and have Apple check it.

Dark Helmet · Apr 4, 2006, 03:08 PM

So has anyone figured out why it restarts twice?

pat++ · Apr 4, 2006, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Does OSX normally crash on you ever 10 min?

pat++ what the hell is so different about the Genie effect?

Well not sure... basically the way the window moves into the Dock is different... cannot really say what changed...

Dark Helmet · Apr 4, 2006, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by pat++

Well not sure... basically the way the window moves into the Dock is different... cannot really say what changed...

To me it looks exactly the same since the public beta's of OSX.

rickey939 · Apr 4, 2006, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

So has anyone figured out why it restarts twice?

Is it doing that for everybody? Just wondering.

angelmb · Apr 4, 2006, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by Weyland-Yutani

Thanks for the advice! (are we talking about M*******m here?)

angelmb · Apr 4, 2006, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by rickey939

Is it doing that for everybody? Just wondering.

No, it restarts twice if you have a single CPU model, four if Dual CPU model, eight if Quad CPU model… Yes, I am just kidding, but imagine that !

seanc · Apr 4, 2006, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by rickey939

Is it doing that for everybody? Just wondering.

Yes

hookem2oo7 · Apr 4, 2006, 04:34 PM

yep. i have verbose mode enabled through Xupport (i think, dont remember which app i enabled it with) and it just rebooted without posting a message or anything...i was expecting it, but it didnt give any clues as to why it rebooted

SMacTech · Apr 4, 2006, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by rickey939

Is it doing that for everybody? Just wondering.

It will do it on all PPC Macs. It did on all of my G4s and did not on the intel iMac.

I read that it was to fix disk i/o errors which caused Tiger to kernel panic. A problem I reported to Apple back in early beta testing of Tiger.

I am most impressed with the speed up of iDisk. It is actually usable now!

iREZ · Apr 4, 2006, 06:41 PM

support for my moto razr vc3...finally!!!

awww crap...only the contact list can be synced

still better than nothing, this update gets a thumbs up from me.

tooki · Apr 4, 2006, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by Weyland-Yutani

Ergo, since my post was identical to his and mine was, according to you mocking, then his post was mocking.

Why all the interest in me tooki? You keep following me around and pestering me. Changing my threads, making up rules etc. just to jab at me.

Stop it please.

Mocking is to make fun of something someone did. Eug posted a legitimate post, you MOCKED his post.

Last warning, dude. One more peep and boom, you take a break for being annoying. Yes, I can do that, and will.

Yep, I do make the rules. They're linked from every forum if you need to brush up. And any changes I may have made to your threads (not that I know what you are referring to specifically) were in pursuit of the spirit embodied in the rules.

tooki

Eug Wanker · Apr 4, 2006, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by SMacTech

It will do it on all PPC Macs. It did on all of my G4s and did not on the intel iMac.

I read that it was to fix disk i/o errors which caused Tiger to kernel panic. A problem I reported to Apple back in early beta testing of Tiger.

I am most impressed with the speed up of iDisk. It is actually usable now!

I don't get that. How does rebooting twice fix disk i/o errors? Anyways, it rebooted twice on both my iMac G5 and my iBook G4.

I'll have to check out iDisk.

rickey939 · Apr 4, 2006, 07:56 PM

Hmm, iDisk doesn't seem any different to me.

Brass · Apr 4, 2006, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by Weyland-Yutani

I'm sure, but those are some rather obscure bugs and OS X is affected by far more obvious and irritating bugs that affect all users. Such as Spotlight inconsitancy etc.

cheers

W-Y

Spotlight inconsistency does not affect all users. Eg, I've no idea what your talking about, so it doesn't affect me. Sure spotlight is slow, but at least it's consistently slow.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Apr 4, 2006, 08:23 PM

Ya, it definitely does NOT fix the dual G5 fan bug reintroduced in 10.4.4 i believe.

aehaas · Apr 4, 2006, 09:39 PM

The only thing I noticed was that on all my machines I can now hide QuarkExpress. Thank you.

aehaas

clbell · Apr 4, 2006, 10:27 PM

Since insalling this update, my MacBook Pro will suddenly shutdown when on battery power. I have to plug it in to be able to start it back up. It seems to be misrepresenting how much battery power is left, or it suddenly thinks there is no battery power left when in fact there is. Is anyone else having similar issues? Normally, it would warn me when the battery is low and then go to sleep but that is not happening. How can I reverse this update and go back to 10.4.5?

rickey939 · Apr 4, 2006, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by aehaas

The only thing I noticed was that on all my machines I can now hide QuarkExpress. Thank you.

aehaas

Yep, it was mentioned in the release notes...

• The Command-H key combination now hides QuarkXPress 6 as expected when it is the front application.

Todd Madson · Apr 4, 2006, 11:01 PM

Aside from the previously mentioned issue with G5 towers doing the
funky autorestart, all it seems to do is let me render Seti @ Home blocks
in 20 minutes instead of 35.

Oh, that was wishful thinking.

I saw 'better USB audio latency' so I'll see if I notice anything even though
most of my audio is all using the digital in.

threestain · Apr 5, 2006, 02:56 AM

apparently azureus works fine for me now, (randomly) but I'm now having trouble making it sleep...

happy days!

Simon · Apr 5, 2006, 04:17 AM

Originally Posted by clbell

Since insalling this update, my MacBook Pro will suddenly shutdown when on battery power. I have to plug it in to be able to start it back up. It seems to be misrepresenting how much battery power is left, or it suddenly thinks there is no battery power left when in fact there is. Is anyone else having similar issues? Normally, it would warn me when the battery is low and then go to sleep but that is not happening. How can I reverse this update and go back to 10.4.5?

To me that sounds more like a battery seating problem than the update's fault. Check if your battery fits snug in its compartment and check that it can't wiggle. If it can, chances are you're experiencing it losing contact to the MBP and thus you get the unexpected immediate shutdown even when the battery is charged. There were reports on this happening with MBPs on macfixit.com.

There site's currently down (again), but google's cache has the article:
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:...&client=safari

euphras · Apr 5, 2006, 05:12 AM

Didn´t the program icons grey out when hiding an app.? It´s gone (at least for me).

Big Mac · Apr 5, 2006, 05:16 AM

Originally Posted by euphras

Didn´t the program icons grey out when hiding an app.? It´s gone (at least for me).

The Dock's plist setting is responsible for that behavior, and it would be very strange if a system update altered that. Try turning it back on with the defaults write Terminal command or TinkerTool.

clbell · Apr 5, 2006, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by Simon

To me that sounds more like a battery seating problem than the update's fault. Check if your battery fits snug in its compartment and check that it can't wiggle. If it can, chances are you're experiencing it losing contact to the MBP and thus you get the unexpected immediate shutdown even when the battery is charged. There were reports on this happening with MBPs on macfixit.com.

There site's currently down (again), but google's cache has the article:
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:...&client=safari

The thing is I haven't done anything to the battery in weeks and both times the computer shutdown it was sitting motionless on the desk. Also, it doesn't happen until after running on battery power for 45 minutes or so.

eevyl · Apr 5, 2006, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by angelmb

Then let me give you some good advice… avoid Mac boards from the country you are currently living on (piel de toro). They would rather ban you instead of trying to argue with you. They are that intelligent…

Well, sorry for the offtopic but gotta add here that there are plenty of other Spanish Mac communities that don't act like the one mentioned. Bunch of local MUGs, IRC channels, websites, etc.

There is life outside the aquarium

eevyl · Apr 5, 2006, 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by Weyland-Yutani

I don't agree with that, but I don't think I'm out of line when I rate this update as underwhelming. It's just my opinion and I would *like* to see them adress more obvious bugs or improve OS X in a more obvious way. Makes me feel better

I was just being sarcastic, and now we are talking. I totally agree on you that I would love to see huge bugs squashed as soon as posible. But I also know that I prefer Apple to ship bug fixes when they are ready rather than hold them until some major ones are addressed.

Angus_D · Apr 5, 2006, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by Weyland-Yutani

Please tell how this update affected/helped you. I'm all ears. If it adressed one issue you had, then that's pretty good but it sure didn't add any features.

New features are added in major OS releases, not bug fix releases. Look out for new features coming your way in Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard!

Abbas · Apr 5, 2006, 07:39 AM

Looks like there is a problem with the battery reporting and this update. My battery life is stuck to 1:57 remaining for the past hour and had I not been doing some very important stuff moving server files, I would've let it drain out and see if I have the same problem you reported.

Will try this out later though.

Originally Posted by clbell

The thing is I haven't done anything to the battery in weeks and both times the computer shutdown it was sitting motionless on the desk. Also, it doesn't happen until after running on battery power for 45 minutes or so.

clbell · Apr 5, 2006, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by Abbas

Looks like there is a problem with the battery reporting and this update. My battery life is stuck to 1:57 remaining for the past hour and had I not been doing some very important stuff moving server files, I would've let it drain out and see if I have the same problem you reported.

Will try this out later though.

The second time mine shutdown (by the way, when I say shutdown I mean very suddenly power is cut, as if battery was removed) the power meter read something like 56 minutes left. I also believe the power remaining estimate is not changing normally. It may be that the battery was actually drained but the system did not realize it. However, I don't believe I was using the machine on battery power long enough to completely drain the battery. If the estimate is wrong then it could also mean the battery is not getting a full charge when plugged in.