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Lateralus · Sep 29, 2006, 02:21 PM

w00t

The 10.4.8 Update is recommended for all users and includes general operating system fixes, as well as specific fixes for the following applications and technologies:

- connecting to wireless networks using the EAP-FAST protocol
- Apple USB modem reliability
- using OpenType fonts in Microsoft Word
- compatibility with 3rd party USB hubs
- scanner performance
- RAW camera support
- printing documents with Asian language names
- performance of the Translation widget
- broadband network performance
- security updates

bryoung · Sep 29, 2006, 02:36 PM

Downloading as we speak.

B.

andreas_g4 · Sep 29, 2006, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by bryoung

Downloading as we speak.

B.

No no no no no…

Dark Helmet · Sep 29, 2006, 02:41 PM

Downloading... so far no problems or noticeable changes but Apple still hasn't fixed _____________ !

zerostar · Sep 29, 2006, 02:43 PM

Are the G5 fans fixed yet?!

Big Mac · Sep 29, 2006, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by andreas_g4

No no no no no…

???

Dark Helmet · Sep 29, 2006, 02:46 PM

What does this mean?

"Windows File Sharing now generates only one process, avoiding an issue that could cause a Mac OS X computer to become unresponsive if it won a master browser election."

Dark Helmet · Sep 29, 2006, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Big Mac

???

He means don't bother with the ****ing stupid posts of "downloading now".

Person Man · Sep 29, 2006, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

What does this mean?

"Windows File Sharing now generates only one process, avoiding an issue that could cause a Mac OS X computer to become unresponsive if it won a master browser election."

Sounds kinda like "...avoiding an issue that could cause a government to become unresponsive if a certain candidate won the general election."

I have no clue what that means. It's probably some strange Microsoft terminology, kinda like the "forest" terminology for Active Directory...

RAILhead · Sep 29, 2006, 03:27 PM

Holy bleedin' crap, my new Intel mini (my work Mac) is running like a whole new machine after the update. I was having all kinds of processor use spikes, and now I'm running smooth as silk and FAST (for a mini).

besson3c · Sep 29, 2006, 03:37 PM

I''m not downloading it now....

rickey939 · Sep 29, 2006, 03:40 PM

• Resolves performance issues that could occur when connecting to a Comcast network.

Hmm, what issues were there?

emark · Sep 29, 2006, 03:42 PM

Golly Ned!!! Is it Snappier?

Webscreamer · Sep 29, 2006, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by rickey939

• Resolves performance issues that could occur when connecting to a Comcast network.

Hmm, what issues were there?

I dunno, but it probably doesn't matter if you're behind a router anyway.

Todd Madson · Sep 29, 2006, 04:25 PM

Why just comcast? Could it be that there were issues with high speed internet
in general but due to the prevalance of Comcast use they were mentioned?

Curiouser and curiouser. I knew something was up when my apps all got
updates last night but I saw nothing this morning.

 · Sep 29, 2006, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by zerostar

Are the G5 fans fixed yet?!

No. In fact they are louder

 · Sep 29, 2006, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by emark

Golly Ned!!! Is it Snappier?

Seems really snappy on my iMac G5 right now, and on my Mac Pros and MacBook Pro. Installing on Power Mac G5 when I get home...

JKT · Sep 29, 2006, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by 

No. In fact they are louder

Reset your power management unit (or whatever the equivalent is on the G5 PMs).

bryoung · Sep 29, 2006, 04:38 PM

Be nice now.
I came to the forum to let you all know that the update was out and Lateralus beat me to it.

So far everything is working well on the 20 and the 24.

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workerbee · Sep 29, 2006, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by RAILhead

my new Intel mini is running like a whole new machine after the update.

Well, it better should...

206 MB vs 30.5MB for the PPC version?! What's going on here?

seanc · Sep 29, 2006, 04:43 PM

Downloading now

. I could only wish for more snapiness because it ain't gonna happen on this ol' thing.

Dark Helmet · Sep 29, 2006, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by workerbee

Well, it better should...

206 MB vs 30.5MB for the PPC version?! What's going on here?

The PPC version is older so the de-bug code has been removed.

Sorry, somebody had to say it.

allap · Sep 29, 2006, 04:57 PM

I just installed the update on my Macbook and after restarting i got nothing but verticle coloured bars and couldn't start the computer. I called applecare and got it sorted out but it cost me 300$ because I hadn't purchased applecare (until today).

So if this happens to you:

Turn computer off
Turn computer on again holding down option, apple, p and r keys
Hold until you hear three chimes
The computer should start up, go to display preferences and change the resolution to anything, then change back to the original one.

Presto.

rickey939 · Sep 29, 2006, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by allap

I called applecare and got it sorted out but it cost me 300$ because I hadn't purchased applecare (until today)..

boazh · Sep 29, 2006, 05:22 PM

Why ? All MB should be under warrenty till next May, unless you got yours last Sep

I hope I don't go crazy, but after the update I don't have the brushed metal look... everything is like an ugly gray.... what's up with that? Also the machine runs hot and almost always at 2 GHz...Arrrrrr.....

Grrr · Sep 29, 2006, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

The PPC version is older so the de-bug code has been removed.

Sorry, somebody had to say it.

No, really, they didnt

Its 2006 now you know. Joke is kind of old, and just as corny as it always was.

CharlesS · Sep 29, 2006, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by workerbee

206 MB vs 30.5MB for the PPC version?! What's going on here?

I reported a bunch of bugs in 10.4.7 that were Intel-only. Hopefully this means they may have fixed them - I need to get ahold of someone with an Intel Mac to test.

Dark Helmet · Sep 29, 2006, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by Grrr

No, really, they didnt

Its 2006 now you know. Joke is kind of old, and just as corny as it always was.

No really? I was saying it to be 100% funny and true.

Goldfinger · Sep 29, 2006, 05:50 PM

211 MB here

(Intel)

Dark Helmet · Sep 29, 2006, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by CharlesS

I reported a bunch of bugs in 10.4.7 that were Intel-only. Hopefully this means they may have fixed them - I need to get ahold of someone with an Intel Mac to test.

Or you can read this as it mentions more specifically what was fixed.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304200

brassplayersrock² · Sep 29, 2006, 05:53 PM

weird:
double restart on roommates intel book
single restart on my powerbook

Alex

kick52 · Sep 29, 2006, 05:58 PM

downloading now...

Chuckit · Sep 29, 2006, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by allap

I just installed the update on my Macbook and after restarting i got nothing but verticle coloured bars and couldn't start the computer. I called applecare and got it sorted out but it cost me 300$ because I hadn't purchased applecare (until today).

So if this happens to you:

Turn computer off
Turn computer on again holding down option, apple, p and r keys
Hold until you hear three chimes
The computer should start up, go to display preferences and change the resolution to anything, then change back to the original one.

Presto.

It's too little, too late, but I'd suggesting posting on the forum next time before spending $300.

kick52 · Sep 29, 2006, 06:15 PM

ok, got it. nothing majorly new. no big secrets (yet).

CharlesS · Sep 29, 2006, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Or you can read this as it mentions more specifically what was fixed.

About the Mac OS X 10.4.8 Update (delta)

I prefer to actually verify that it's fixed first-hand, because the bugs I am referring to are rather important to some of my programs.

Goldfinger · Sep 29, 2006, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by brassplayersrock

weird:
double restart on roommates intel book
single restart on my powerbook

Alex

Double restart on my (intel) iMac. I've had double restarts on my PowerBook before. Nothing new.

Chuckit · Sep 29, 2006, 06:32 PM

I thought this was supposed to be the update with threaded OpenGL. Did that get scrapped or did they just not mention it?

tkmd · Sep 29, 2006, 06:44 PM

Open GL acceleration is the new quartz extreme 2d apparently vaporware. Not in this update.

fuzzball963 · Sep 29, 2006, 06:48 PM

I installed it and it was like getting "teh snappy" back on my MBP

. It used to take upwards of four or five bounces to launch itunes or iPhoto now it only takes one for almost any app

. I don't know why that was especially considering I repaired permissions etc but it works well now

No problems so far although it took about 3 minutes to restart after installing and get me back to the desktop. After that boot times were normal

rickey939 · Sep 29, 2006, 06:53 PM

TransparentDock still works!

w00t.

JKT · Sep 29, 2006, 07:02 PM

There's a new feature in 10.4.8 - take a look at the Mouse preferences and see the new way to initiate Zooming.

brassplayersrock² · Sep 29, 2006, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by JKT

There's a new feature in 10.4.8 - take a look at the Mouse preferences and see the new way to initiate Zooming.

w00t! so much easier

Alex

ghporter · Sep 29, 2006, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

What does this mean?

"Windows File Sharing now generates only one process, avoiding an issue that could cause a Mac OS X computer to become unresponsive if it won a master browser election."

When on a network, different computers have to basically negotiate for which one will do what at what time. I think this is talking about making WFS run only one process because there would be a problem if one WFS process "won the election" while another one was trying to browse the network shares. By using only one process, if it wins, there's no conflict on the Mac and thus no other processes to cause the Mac to hang. Does that make sense?

rickey939 · Sep 29, 2006, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by JKT

There's a new feature in 10.4.8 - take a look at the Mouse preferences and see the new way to initiate Zooming.

Nice!

porieux · 01:20 AM

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dimmer · Sep 29, 2006, 08:26 PM

When on a network, different computers have to basically negotiate for which one will do what at what time.

That's a MS thing though? It's not how AppleTalk and TCP/IP work (the first is client/client, the latter is client/overseer). I'm mixing protocols with application layer stuff now, but I just want to clarify that you don't -have- to do a bad network implementation of anything.

dimmer · Sep 29, 2006, 08:27 PM

Gotta love irony.

I've got some shirts that could use that love.

Cadaver · Sep 29, 2006, 08:40 PM

10.4.8 seems to fix (at least on my Mac Pro) the image corruption issues when PowerPoint 2004 is running a show on a 30" display (those who've seen this "split screen" artifact will know what I'm talking about).

OmniWeb 5.5 seems more crashy than before. Was very stable on 10.4.7, but I've had three crashes in the last hour since installing 10.4.8 (Combo-Intel).

RoyW · Sep 29, 2006, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by Goldfinger

211 MB here

(Intel)

It was 211 MB for me also on my new 24" iMac, frankly I was a little shocked because it was only 22.3 MB on both my other Macs, a Rev. A 20" G5 iMac and G4 dual 1Ghz QuickSilver.

ghporter · Sep 29, 2006, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by dimmer

That's a MS thing though? It's not how AppleTalk and TCP/IP work (the first is client/client, the latter is client/overseer). I'm mixing protocols with application layer stuff now, but I just want to clarify that you don't -have- to do a bad network implementation of anything.

I think it's more about how Windows shares than anything else. So that's neither network protocol nor transport layer, but how the OS deals with requests at that end.

And as for details, I'm fresh out of them. It was a long time ago that I last dealt with Windows guts on a regular basis.