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gorgonzola · Jul 17, 2007, 04:30 PM

Many of you have noticed that a lot of weird things have been going on over the last week. This is due to a temporary new hire, thewebdrives, who's been fixing the bugs that were left over after we deployed our new forum theme several months ago. I'm sorry for the inconvenience with the weird behavior, but it's almost done. (As I'm writing this, the major outstanding issues are the messed up quick reply box and the new image resizer.)

To consolidate things moving forward, I'm making this new thread. Other than the two bugs above that I mentioned, all the bugs with the new theme have been fixed (to the best of our knowledge). If this is not the case, please use this thread to post any bugs that you see. Also, if you see some slightly weird behavior, wait to see if it lasts more than an hour or two, as it may be a very temporary side effect of some other changes being made.

If there are no more bugs, we will begin addressing some issues with the design itself that were brought up in the last round of feedback. As far as I can remember, the major issue there was that the thread icons don't differ enough from each other, and they're not easily distinguishable for the colorblind. We'll likely address this by changing a few of the icons so that threads you've posted in get an icon that's a different shape from the others.

If there are any other bugs or design issues you'd like addressed, please post them here now.

Kevin · Jul 18, 2007, 08:10 AM

If you want to subscribe to a forum it clicks you through two pages. One for the subscribe and one for a "you sure" or something of the like.

When you go here

http://forums.macnn.com/usercp.php

Theh "Unsubscribe from this forum" link will take you to a page that tells you that you've unsubscribed from it without confirming as the subscribing link.

I've on man occasion accidentally hit this link and had to go back and subscribe again (It's a PITA)

I suggest either get rid of the link (You can unsubscribe within the forum itself) or add a "You Sure" option.

That way no forum is unsubscribed on accident.

Makes GUI sense.

besson3c · Jul 18, 2007, 01:30 PM

Just wanted to report, in case you missed this, that you appear to have several badly formed Javascript functions...

on page load:

Error: catflap_resize_image is not defined
Source File: http://forums.macnn.com/61/feedback/...t/#post3432722
Line: 1

(I would imagine this might be contributing to the dynamic image resize problems you are trying to fix?)

Your mouseovers in the upper right hand corner nav bar:

Error: buttonOn is not defined
Source File: http://forums.macnn.com/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=61
Line: 1

on page load:

Error: invalid assignment left-hand side
Source File: http://forums.macnn.com/_gb_scripts/_gb_global.js
Line: 76, Column: 45
Source Code: imageref.previousSibling.style.text-align = 'center';

Simon · Jul 19, 2007, 04:22 AM

Here's another bug that's been around since the theme change:

In the user CP the threads listed in "New Subscribed Threads" still link to the first post in the thread rather than to the first new post in that thread. This is strange because in the "Subscribed Forum List" the "Last Post" URLs have the "/new-post/" suffix so you are directed to the first new post. All that needs to be done is to add the "new-post" suffix to the URL in the links in the "New Subscribed Threads" list.

Peter · Jul 19, 2007, 09:39 AM

when i post something containing BBCode:

Code:
Warning: main(/var/www/macnn/macnn/forums/includes/class_bbcode.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /includes/class_bbcode_alt.php on line 18

Fatal error: main(): Failed opening required '/var/www/macnn/macnn/forums/includes/class_bbcode.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/pear') in /var/www/macnn/macnn/forums/includes/class_bbcode_alt.php on line 18

Peter · Jul 19, 2007, 09:40 AM

Obviously the bug is now fixed, but just thought I'd make it aware

Dakarʒ · Jul 19, 2007, 09:43 AM

I'm curious if anyone else has had seemingly random threads remain looking unread after being viewed. This seems to have started since the changes got underway.

MacosNerd · Jul 19, 2007, 11:45 AM

I noticed a problem (well I wouldn't call it a problem) with people's sigs. They're all turning into boobs. Like I said its not really a problem, in fact can we make sure it spreads so that more sigs have that

Rumor · Jul 19, 2007, 12:50 PM

It may be only me, but linked pictures are not showing up at all. Not even the little white box with a red x, they just aren't there.

Rumor · Jul 19, 2007, 03:09 PM

It appears that the img tags are fubar.

Dakarʒ · Jul 19, 2007, 03:12 PM

People keep saying this, but I haven't seen any problems all day.

Cold Warrior · Jul 19, 2007, 05:02 PM

RSS doesn't work.

besson3c · Jul 19, 2007, 05:20 PM

Error: window.event has no properties
Source File: http://forums.macnn.com/_gb_scripts/_gb_global.js
Line: 144

CharlesS · Jul 19, 2007, 06:00 PM

There's still no way to jump straight to a post you found using the "Search by Posts" feature. You can only get the first post in that thread, and if the thread is 10 pages long, it will be quite difficult to find the post that your search turned up.

Code:
Also, the last time I checked, the &#91;code&#93; tag still didn't have those nifty horizontal scrollers that it used to have before the forum redesign. Let's see if that's been fixed yet.

edit: nope, it hasn't!

edit 2: and let's see if the code tag is smart enough to ignore smilies. :) ;) :D :p

edit 3: it seems we have a negative on that one too.

Kevin · Jul 20, 2007, 06:34 AM

So who is the first that is gonna stick a fork in and take a bite?

I kiiid.... I kid.

Peter · Jul 22, 2007, 08:34 AM

the image tags in my sig are broke, no idea why - they were working a minute ago.
Heres the BBCode for my sig:

Code:
[ img]http://omgponi.es/sig.cgi[/img]
[ URL=http://omgponi.es]omgponi.es[/URL]

Edit: Grr the code tag != Quote tag, really infuriating.

turtle777 · Jul 22, 2007, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Peter

the image tags in my sig are broke, no idea why - they were working a minute ago.

I have issues with my sigs, too. Some of my sig pics are shown bigger than they actually are.

(e.g. pic of snapping turtle). The rotate script and images haven't changed n months, so it's gotta be the hampstor...

-t

Peter · Jul 22, 2007, 01:40 PM

yeah it is.
For now your sig violates the sig rules btw, might wanna make it static for now...

turtle777 · Jul 22, 2007, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Peter

yeah it is.
For now your sig violates the sig rules btw, might wanna make it static for now...

No, I don't violate the rules, the image is 200 x 40.

The forum software is violating the rules.

-t

Peter · Jul 22, 2007, 02:44 PM

to me it looks like its your end, but im also aware that the image processing stuff on MacNN is bust. So who cares.

Edit: it renders fine outside of MacNN (manually reloading your sig) so it is MacNN - apologiez.

turtle777 · Jul 22, 2007, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by Peter

... but im also aware that the image processing stuff on MacNN is bust. So who cares.

Edit: it renders fine outside of MacNN (manually reloading your sig) so it is MacNN - apologiez.

Funny thing is, it doesn't only BLOW the sig up, it also shrinks it in other cases to about 50% of the original size. Go figure...

-t

C.A.T.S. CEO · Jul 22, 2007, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Dakarʒ

I'm curious if anyone else has had seemingly random threads remain looking unread after being viewed. This seems to have started since the changes got underway.

I've had that problem too.

I've also had the problem of the forum being unresponsive, ie I'm browsing the forum, then I try to load a thread but it just sits there and I get a server not responding error in safari, eventually tho it will load.

thewebdrives · Jul 23, 2007, 07:25 AM

Fix: In user control panel, threads in "new subscribed threads" now have been linked to first new post

thewebdrives · Jul 23, 2007, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by besson3c

Just wanted to report, in case you missed this, that you appear to have several badly formed Javascript functions...

on page load:

Error: catflap_resize_image is not defined
Source File: http://forums.macnn.com/61/feedback/...t/#post3432722
Line: 1

(I would imagine this might be contributing to the dynamic image resize problems you are trying to fix?)

Your mouseovers in the upper right hand corner nav bar:

Error: buttonOn is not defined
Source File: http://forums.macnn.com/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=61
Line: 1

on page load:

Error: invalid assignment left-hand side
Source File: http://forums.macnn.com/_gb_scripts/_gb_global.js
Line: 76, Column: 45
Source Code: imageref.previousSibling.style.text-align = 'center';

i hope these errors don't persist now. These might be due to work going on the image resizer that day as you guessed. In case you notice them again please do let us know.

thewebdrives · Jul 23, 2007, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by besson3c

Error: window.event has no properties
Source File: http://forums.macnn.com/_gb_scripts/_gb_global.js
Line: 144

there no such error now, you may have noticed this error due to ongoing work in that file that day.

dcmacdaddy · Jul 23, 2007, 08:17 AM

OK, this is a weird one, even by the forum standards.

I'm in the Poli/War Lunge and every thread has an extra "s" or ?s" or "s?" on the end of the thread name. I've got a screen shot if someone has a place for me to send it via e-mail.

Simon · Jul 23, 2007, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by thewebdrives

Fix: In user control panel, threads in "new subscribed threads" now have been linked to first new post

Great. Thanks!

residentEvil · Jul 23, 2007, 08:29 AM

clicking on any new thread (that i've never been to) is taking me to the end of page/last reply. hard to tell.

Dakarʒ · Jul 23, 2007, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by thewebdrives

Fix: In user control panel, threads in "new subscribed threads" now have been linked to first new post

Originally Posted by residentEvil

clicking on any new thread (that i've never been to) is taking me to the end of page/last reply. hard to tell.

Confirmed. This is not acting like its supposed to.

(and its going random places for me, not just the end of a thread)

Also, this is just clicking any thread, since I don't go into "Subscribed threads"

residentEvil · Jul 23, 2007, 08:36 AM

correct; no subscribed thread for me either.

coming back to this thread took me to the top of the page this time and when i reported above it took me to the end.

thewebdrives · Jul 23, 2007, 08:59 AM

ok checking the subscribed link issue again.

thewebdrives · Jul 23, 2007, 09:03 AM

I have fixed the code tag. It will now ignore the smilies and you would now see scrollbars in the code box so that you could scroll left and right and long lines would now not get wrapped

residentEvil · Jul 23, 2007, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by dcmacdaddy

OK, this is a weird one, even by the forum standards.

I'm in the Poli/War Lunge and every thread has an extra "s" or ?s" or "s?" on the end of the thread name. I've got a screen shot if someone has a place for me to send it via e-mail.

it is all over now...

i guess NN really did go gay with all the lisping "S"s at the end of every thread title.

thewebdrives · Jul 23, 2007, 09:25 AM

I have checked the subscribed thread fixation again, i hope its working correct. i haven't seen the old forum. let me explain how it is working-

- when you have subscribed to a new thread and it has a new post, the link will take you to that new post.

- if there is no new post it will take you to the first post of the thread.

dcmacdaddy · Jul 23, 2007, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by residentEvil

it is all over now...

i guess NN really did go gay with all the lisping "S"s at the end of every thread title.

Either that or the precious, precious hampstor has gone "Gollum" with the lisping.

residentEvil · Jul 23, 2007, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by dcmacdaddy

Either that or the precious, precious hampstor has gone "Gollum" with the lisping.

i should probably watch those movies at some point...one day.

rickey939 · Jul 23, 2007, 10:57 AM

Is Frank (effgee) officially off of this project? Just wondering.

Dakarʒ · Jul 23, 2007, 11:04 AM

I'm guessing he's unavailable.

Simon · Jul 23, 2007, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by thewebdrives

- when you have subscribed to a new thread and it has a new post, the link will take you to that new post.

- if there is no new post it will take you to the first post of the thread.

But it's also adding "/new-post/" to the URLs of non-subscribed threads in other lists. The URL of a thread I haven't subscribed to should always point to the first post.

CharlesS · Jul 23, 2007, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by thewebdrives

I have fixed the code tag. It will now ignore the smilies and you would now see scrollbars in the code box so that you could scroll left and right and long lines would now not get wrapped

Time to test it!

Code:
This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. This is only a test.

BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP

This has been a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. If this had been an actual emergency, you would have been advised to run around screaming and trampling any bystanders that happen to be in the area.

Smilies: :D :p :) ;)

edit: hmm, the horizontal scrollers aren't showing up, causing this to have an effect quite different from what was intended, I think. The smilies are a lot better now, though.

reader50 · Jul 23, 2007, 01:15 PM

I'm seeing the horizontal scrollers. FireFox Mac 2.0.0.3 / OSX 10.4.6

starman · Jul 23, 2007, 01:34 PM

I see an 's' at the end of some forum titles.

"Seagull becomes crisp shoplifter ...s"
"Harry Potter 7 - No Spoilers!s ( 1 2 3 )"
"Check out my new Lord of the Rings video.s ( 1 2 )"
"Drive with the engine off" ?s "

residentEvil · Jul 23, 2007, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by starman

I see an 's' at the end of some forum titles.

"Seagull becomes crisp shoplifter ...s"
"Harry Potter 7 - No Spoilers!s ( 1 2 3 )"
"Check out my new Lord of the Rings video.s ( 1 2 )"
"Drive with the engine off" ?s "

reporteds aboves alreadys

CharlesS · Jul 23, 2007, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by reader50

I'm seeing the horizontal scrollers. FireFox Mac 2.0.0.3 / OSX 10.4.6

Hmm, you're right - it displays correctly in the Gecko-based browsers such as Camino and Firefox. Unfortunately, in Safari 3 it results in a really, really, really wide thread.

residentEvil · Jul 23, 2007, 02:28 PM

now it is adding an S to member names....aaaaaah!

yes, i know it isn't really

thewebdrives · Jul 23, 2007, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Cold Warrior

RSS doesn't work.

Please provide more information on this problem. How and where rss feeds do not work.

turtle777 · Jul 23, 2007, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by residentEvil

now it is adding an S to member names....aaaaaah!

By golly, you are right.

CharlesS
thewebdrives
btunes
analogue SPRINKLES
amsalpemkcus
Yeah, I know, you were kidding.
-t

Cold Warrior · Jul 23, 2007, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by thewebdrives

Please provide more information on this problem. How and where rss feeds do not work.

In Firefox 2 I get the RSS icon in the address bar while browsing the forums. When I click it, it opens my RSS reader, NetNewsWire Lite, and subscribes to the feed. In the past, the feed would show me newly-posted threads (but not updated ones). However, for a long time now, the feed doesn't do anything at all. I've tried unsubscribing/deleting it from my reader and re-subscribing, but that hasn't helped.

rickey939 · Jul 23, 2007, 05:05 PM

Ummm, this place is a mess.

Kerrigan · Jul 23, 2007, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by residentEvil

now it is adding an S to member names....aaaaaah!

yes, i know it isn't really

Teh Kerrigans LOL!s