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Phileas · Nov 20, 2012, 05:18 AM

Conversations here in the lounge, while there are fewer of them, seem to be a lot more civil than, say, five or six years ago. What happened? Did we all get older and wiser? Did the antagonistic people leave?

I think this is a good thing btw.

BLAZE_MkIV · Nov 20, 2012, 05:20 AM

Shut up you!

Using reason and stuff.

The Final Dakar · Nov 20, 2012, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by Phileas

Did the antagonistic people leave?

They either got banned, or cried about the moderation, took their ball and went home.

Spheric Harlot · Nov 20, 2012, 05:42 AM

^ That, for sure.

Some of it is the post-democalyptic lull, still.

The rest might be the onset of old age.

MacinTommy · Nov 20, 2012, 06:39 AM

Once all of us dumb southerners leave this forum will be perfect.

The Final Dakar · Nov 20, 2012, 06:40 AM

Gonna secede to your own forums so you guys can implement less communist moderation?

raleur · Nov 20, 2012, 07:07 AM

A forum that is moderated only by the free market is better for everyone.

subego · Nov 20, 2012, 07:12 AM

Like Viagra and Cialis?

andi*pandi · Nov 20, 2012, 07:13 AM

The South will rise again.

MacinTommy · Nov 20, 2012, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Gonna secede to your own forums so you guys can implement less communist moderation?

Gonna be called "Mac Plantation".

MacinTommy · Nov 20, 2012, 07:18 AM

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andi*pandi · Nov 20, 2012, 08:03 AM

I think we're defeating the purpose of this thread. Sorry Phileas!

knifecarrier2 · Nov 20, 2012, 10:13 AM

Facebook happened. It sucks up a lot of online interaction that used to happen on more "fringe" forums like this, nasioc, etc. I've noticed a decline everywhere compared to 2005.

Also, this place was over-moderated. Spirited debates and disagreements were not tolerated, pussies kept getting butthurt about differing opinions, and then people would keep reporting each other. Some, like that ****ing dickface Kilbey, would know EXACTLY how to walk the line, taunt others and be a giant raging infected asshole, without breaking any rules, so they'd hang around longer, but I think eventually everyone caught on to who the actual dickfaces were. We need to be nice and civil to each other now... which is kinda boring sometimes.

Spheric Harlot · Nov 20, 2012, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by knifecarrier2

Facebook happened. It sucks up a lot of online interaction that used to happen on more "fringe" forums like this, nasioc, etc. I've noticed a decline everywhere compared to 2005.

Agreed.

Much of the "Hey, have you seen this!?" is now on Facebook.

But that doesn't explain the change in tone.

This, however, does:

Originally Posted by knifecarrier2

Also, this place was over-moderated. Spirited debates and disagreements were not tolerated, pussies kept getting butthurt about differing opinions, and then people would keep reporting each other. Some, like that ****ing dickface Kilbey, would know EXACTLY how to walk the line, taunt others and be a giant raging infected asshole, without breaking any rules, so they'd hang around longer, but I think eventually everyone caught on to who the actual dickfaces were. We need to be nice and civil to each other now... which is kinda boring sometimes.

Well, Phileas, there's your answer.

Nobody bothers getting in fights with Rob anymore.

That bit gave me flashbacks of Abe's "meek as a lamb" phase.

Shaddim · Nov 20, 2012, 11:52 AM

The raging conservatives were never as much of a problem as the angsty liberals spoiling for a fight. Not to say both sides couldn't be a right PITA, but there were always more Lefties with poison pens.

Today it's more, "Oh, it's you again? Your feigned outrage and crappy manners weren't that compelling in 2004, and now it's just boring."

The Final Dakar · Nov 20, 2012, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Shaddim

The raging conservatives were never as much of a problem as the angsty liberals spoiling for a fight. Not to say both sides couldn't be a right PITA, but there were always more Lefties with poison pens.
Today it's more, "Oh, it's you again? Your feigned outrage and crappy manners weren't that compelling in 2004, and now it's just boring."

ShortcutToMoncton · Nov 20, 2012, 01:36 PM

Well I'm going to go ahead and sort of civilly disagree with you there

mattyb · Nov 28, 2012, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by knifecarrier2

Facebook happened.

From the ever reliable Daily Mail :

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2238543/Why-having-wide-range-Facebook-friends-make-users-stressed.html

lpkmckenna · Nov 28, 2012, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by Shaddim

The raging conservatives were never as much of a problem as the angsty liberals spoiling for a fight. Not to say both sides couldn't be a right PITA, but there were always more Lefties with poison pens.
Today it's more, "Oh, it's you again? Your feigned outrage and crappy manners weren't that compelling in 2004, and now it's just boring."

You're attacking me in a thread I wasn't even participating in? And you're the one complaining about civility?

I guess I'll just hit the report button.

Spheric Harlot · Nov 28, 2012, 11:28 PM

FWIW, it's completely immaterial that you're a "liberal".

But in the days after the election, this place actually felt…NICE. In a way it hadn't in many years.

And it was definitely because people who ONLY hang out here to snarl at others in the Political Lounge simply weren't there. It changed the tone of the whole board.

And a couple of us went, "Huh. Why can't it just stay this way?"

Not that people need to stay away, but dammit, civil discourse over a drink at a party really isn't that hard.

It's mostly a function of actually being interested in how the other guy ticks, and just shutting up and walking away when you've decided you don't like how he ticks on a certain subject matter, and maybe talking to him again about a different subject when you bump into him later.

You know, rather than having judged from the outset what he's like, and beating your view into him until he shuts up.

Shaddim · Nov 29, 2012, 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

You're attacking me in a thread I wasn't even participating in? And you're the one complaining about civility?
I guess I'll just hit the report button.

"Attack"? Really? You're the one spoiling for a fight, I'm just pointing it out.

subego · Nov 29, 2012, 05:12 AM

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot

It's mostly a function of actually being interested in how the other guy ticks, and just shutting up and walking away when you've decided you don't like how he ticks on a certain subject matter, and maybe talking to him again about a different subject when you bump into him later.

Even for someone whose goal is crushing their opponent, being interested in how the other guy ticks is equally important.

Ironic then, how unimportant many consider it.