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How do you reconcile Adam and Eve with evolution? (Page 9)
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Originally Posted by Big Mac 
David and Solomon were chastised for the excess number of wives they kept. The greatest Jew of all time had only one wife.
Where was this? As I recall, it was killing Uriah to take his wife that made God angry with David. In fact, in his condemnation of David's relationship with Bathsheba, God seemed outright supportive of David's polygamy (with God taking credit for David having so many wives).
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I'm guessing Moses.
Greatest Jew of All Time sounds like reality show, though, doesn't it?
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The Bible records two wives for Moses, unless Zipporah was both Midianite and Ethiopian.
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*cough* Well, it's been a while...
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Originally Posted by design219
I didn't think Jesus was married.
Not the greatest Jew.
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Originally Posted by Big Mac
Not the greatest Jew.
A lot of people seem to like him.
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Eh, well, most people don't really recognize Moses as a polygamist. Some people will say that Zipporah died and Moses remarried (still not having "only one wife", but not polygamy), which seems plausible enough. Others say that for whatever reason people called Zipporah "the Ethiopian" even though she wasn't Ethiopian.
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Originally Posted by design219
A lot of people seem to like him.
His fanbase is largely outside the Jewish community.
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This is almost getting silly, so I will take my leave so you may right the thread.
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Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth
This is almost getting silly, so I will take my leave so you may right the thread.
No, people are just learning things as we go along.
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Sorry, I just found my overlooking Moses' situation along with design neglecting to remember that Jews don't consider Jesus the son of God, thereby undercutting his status a bit kinda funny. I just don't wish to be blamed for a derail on a thread that's pretty healthy at Page 9.
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Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth
Greatest Jew of All Time sounds like reality show, though, doesn't it?
Originally Posted by Big Mac
Not the greatest Jew.
God, I need to watch that show. Imagine Maury's "you are Not the father" mixed with "You are the weakest link."
"Einstein, you are NOT the greatest Jew. Goodbye." 
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That would be fun.
Now if Jesus is out for greatest Jew, I'd have to go with Noah over Moses. Moses lead a lot of people out of slavery, and did a great job, but Noah saved all mankind his family. I'd have to go with Noah.
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Greatest Jew of all time? Hmm, Chico, Harpo, or Groucho... I know, Zeppo!
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Originally Posted by design219
Noah saved all mankind his family. I'd have to go with Noah.
The problem with that is Noah wasn't a Jew. He preceded Abraham. According to God Moshe was the greatest, higher than any other prophet.
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Of course, you can't really speak of Jews until well after Abraham. Only with the destruction of the Northern Kingdom would Judah become identified as the homeland. Abraham may have been a Hebrew, but a Jew he wasn't. Arguably, only the descendants of Joseph are Hebrews.
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Originally Posted by Big Mac
The greatest Jew of all time...
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Didn't the greatest Jew of all time break up with Mia Farrow and then marry her adopted daughter?
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Originally Posted by lpkmckenna
Of course, you can't really speak of Jews until well after Abraham. Only with the destruction of the Northern Kingdom would Judah become identified as the homeland. Abraham may have been a Hebrew, but a Jew he wasn't. Arguably, only the descendants of Joseph are Hebrews.
Er…Jacob's other 11 sons weren't Hebrews?
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Originally Posted by BRussell
Greatest Jew of all time? Hmm, Chico, Harpo, or Groucho... I know, Zeppo!
You missed the other Marx brother, Karl, the funniest of them all and a great comedy writer.
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Originally Posted by Chuckit
Er…Jacob's other 11 sons weren't Hebrews?
I stand corrected.
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Originally Posted by BRussell
Didn't the greatest Jew of all time break up with Mia Farrow and then marry molest her adopted daughter?
That's a more honest interpretation.
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Q: How do you reconcile Adam and Eve with evolution?
A: You don't. There is ample evidence for evolution, while the Adam and Eve story is only symbolic.
Are you going to tell me that the reason we're in the mess we are is because a talking snake convinced a woman to eat fruit they were told not to eat by a loving god -- who later commits near global genocide because his creations angered him? 
Ask yourselves this: do the actions of this god make sense, or does he really seem to behave like a spoiled kindregartner?
I wish Jews and Christians who call themselves religious would read the bible and note the flaws and the inconsistencies. For instance, the Skeptic's Annotated Bible website is a great tool to aid your transition from gullible lemming to thinking human. 
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It was a lizard, for the record.
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Originally Posted by peeb
It was a lizard, for the record.
It says "serpent," which is a snake, not a lizard.
Either way, the whole story is damned ludicrous.
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Originally Posted by FatGuy
It says "serpent," which is a snake, not a lizard.
Either way, the whole story is damned ludicrous.
Yes, but after the incident with the apple, God curses the 'serpent' to slither on its belly instead of walking on legs. Is there a word for a serpent with legs? Oh yes... Lizard.
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Originally Posted by peeb
Yes, but after the incident with the apple, God curses the 'serpent' to slither on its belly instead of walking on legs. Is there a word for a serpent with legs? Oh yes... Lizard.
Hence, the serpent became a snake.
Another point: the text says nothing about the type of fruit.
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Maybe the snake never had legs, and got everywhere by rolling around? Hence God didn't change his form, only his method of locomotion.
See, anyone can fan-wank like a literalist!
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Originally Posted by lpkmckenna
Maybe the snake never had legs, and got everywhere by rolling around? Hence God didn't change his form, only his method of locomotion.
See, anyone can fan-wank like a literalist!
"Fan-wank?" 
The whole Adam and Eve story sounds like it's meant to be viewed symbolically, not taken as literal history. Of course, I take it as a ludicrous story.
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Originally Posted by FatGuy
The whole Adam and Eve story sounds like it's meant to be viewed symbolically, not taken as literal history.
Spot-on.
Of course, I take it as a ludicrous story.
I recommend that you read The Power of Myth.
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Originally Posted by FatGuy
"Fan-wank?"
"Google?" 
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