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yannb · Nov 17, 2003, 03:50 PM

Hi there,

I work for a reseller, and our internal sales representative was informed bij our Apple distributor that the standard G5 configurations will be altered tomorrow. This is what they told us:

- lower price on the 1.6
- new dual 1.8 due to shipping problems on the dual 2.0

Can anyone confirm this?

Busemann · Nov 17, 2003, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by yannb:
Hi there,

I work for a reseller, and our internal sales representative was informed bij our Apple distributor that the standard G5 configurations will be altered tomorrow. This is what they told us:

- lower price on the 1.6
- new dual 1.8 due to shipping problems on the dual 2.0

Can anyone confirm this?

It wouldn't surprise me if they did it, and if they lower the 2Ghz prize as well, I will buy one in an instant!

Eug · Nov 17, 2003, 04:35 PM

ThinkSecret: 20-inch iMac, Dual-1.8GHz G5 in pipeline.

Zoom · Nov 17, 2003, 07:05 PM

Sounds like it's going to happen. That's pretty sweet, though I'm still not sure I can fork out $2500 for a dualie. Would this nix any chance at HW upgrades at MWSF?

What about the new displays? I was waiting on those, too.

Eug · Nov 17, 2003, 07:33 PM

ThinkSecret now says:

"According to reports, the new Dual-1.8GHz model will be priced at $2,499, the Dual-2GHz model will remain at $2,999, the single 1.8GHz model will drop to $2,099 from $2,399, and the single 1.6GHz model will drop to $1,799 from $1,999."

I still don't buy the bit about the 20" iMac, but who knows...

sodamnregistered2 · Nov 17, 2003, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by Eug:
ThinkSecret now says:

"According to reports, the new Dual-1.8GHz model will be priced at $2,499, the Dual-2GHz model will remain at $2,999, the single 1.8GHz model will drop to $2,099 from $2,399, and the single 1.6GHz model will drop to $1,799 from $1,999.

I have a dual 2GHz, but would have bought the dual 1.8GHz at $500 cheaper. There's your ram stuffing right there.

Leonis · Nov 17, 2003, 08:31 PM

Photoshop is okay on my Dual GHz SlowSilver�

Illustrator is okay

Right now the "only" reason to consider jumping to a G5 is Cinema

Unfortunately Cinema isn't optimized for G5 yet so that it's not up to 3X as fast as my SlowSilver� as is indicated by Cinebench.....

Keep the words short.....No G5 aware Cinema, no new hardware purchase = Apple, no business from me (yet)

3.1416 · Nov 17, 2003, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by Eug:
I still don't buy the bit about the 20" iMac, but who knows...

Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense. You'd have a great monitor that's permanently stuck on a slow machine. Unless it has a 1.4 or 1.6 G5, which I doubt.

The dual 1.8 G5, on the other hand, is long overdue.

Krusty · Nov 18, 2003, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by Eug:

I still don't buy the bit about the 20" iMac, but who knows...

Why not ? If I had the money, that'd probably be the machine I'd buy. I don't really need all the speed of a tower .. but a 20" LCD would be great. If it costs, say, 2k that'd still be a full 1100 cheaper than the "new" price on a 1.6 G5 + 20" Apple display.

I don't think it'd be a "super hot" seller ... but there is a niche of people who would want one. That was part of the promise of the new iMac design ... that we'd have a choice of monitor sizes that we didn't have with the CRT iMacs.

cantcstr8 · Nov 18, 2003, 12:22 AM

2.4 GHZ Single and Dual announced MacWorld January.

No speed bumps until then. Price drops maybe. Dual 2GHZ $2499 Single 1.8 $1999
Single 1.6 $1599

Maybe with radeon 9600 standard

Crusoe · Nov 18, 2003, 08:57 AM

Store is down now so something is happening.

Eug · Nov 18, 2003, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by Krusty:
Why not ? If I had the money, that'd probably be the machine I'd buy. I don't really need all the speed of a tower .. but a 20" LCD would be great. If it costs, say, 2k that'd still be a full 1100 cheaper than the "new" price on a 1.6 G5 + 20" Apple display.

I don't think it'd be a "super hot" seller ... but there is a niche of people who would want one. That was part of the promise of the new iMac design ... that we'd have a choice of monitor sizes that we didn't have with the CRT iMacs.

Well, they did release a 20".

What's wrong with it? When the iMac becomes obsolete (which is arguably already now considering it's a desktop with a G4 1.25), the $$$ screen will become useless. The same applies to the 15" and 17", but at least those don't cost as much.

mousehouse · Nov 18, 2003, 11:00 AM

for the real hackers among us... if they upgrade the imac to the G5 eventually but keep the same casing/connections a good tweaker could move the nice big screen to your new imac :-)

ah well... as there was a market for the 17" widescreen, there will be a market for the 20" as well. and besides, for most people at the consumer level that 1.25G G4 will perform great for their tasks such as email, iPhoto, some iMovie/iDVD work... that G4 will outlive a lot of other systems, and the screen with it!

btw. i absolutely love that dual-1.8... am i the only one thinking it will be the biggest seller by far of the apple G5 line?

Eug · Nov 18, 2003, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by mousehouse:
ah well... as there was a market for the 17" widescreen, there will be a market for the 20" as well. and besides, for most people at the consumer level that 1.25G G4 will perform great for their tasks such as email, iPhoto, some iMovie/iDVD work... that G4 will outlive a lot of other systems, and the screen with it!

A G4 1.25 is quite slow in iMovie/iDVD.

btw. i absolutely love that dual-1.8... am i the only one thinking it will be the biggest seller by far of the apple G5 line?

I agree. It's too bad they don't have a single 1.8 though.

Shaddim · Nov 18, 2003, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by Eug:
Well, they did release a 20".

What's wrong with it? When the iMac becomes obsolete (which is arguably already now considering it's a desktop with a G4 1.25), the $$$ screen will become useless. The same applies to the 15" and 17", but at least those don't cost as much.

Someone will have (G5 or higher) upgrades for them.

Eug · Nov 18, 2003, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by MacNStein:
Someone will have (G5 or higher) upgrades for them.

You mean like they have for the G4 Power Macs?

Arkham_c · Nov 18, 2003, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by Eug:
It's too bad they don't have a single 1.8 though.

This is the lineup and price plan that they should have released originally. There is a real benefit to jumping from the low end to the medium, and the high-end is for people who need to eek out the last bit of performance. The dual-1.8 is a real performer and is now the best deal.

I'm still glad to have my dual-2GHz/Radeon 9800 though.

osiris · Nov 18, 2003, 11:19 AM

Pretty cool news. The 20" iMac for those who want the big screen, the Dual 1.8 G5s for more power. Maybe we'll see dual G5s across the board by January/February.

roders · Nov 18, 2003, 11:43 AM

As a 1.8Ghz G5 owner I am so bummed by this, especailly since I had advertised my G5 yesterday for sale; BEFORE this story broke!

I guess I've at least given the none G5 owning crowd something to laugh about though!

tthiel · Nov 18, 2003, 01:39 PM

Uusally the middle of the line PowerMac is the best deal. The original config was skewed for G5s and has now been corrected. I also would have bought a dual 1.8 instead of a Dual 2.0 for a $500 savings.

Originally posted by sodamnregistered2:
I have a dual 2GHz, but would have bought the dual 1.8GHz at $500 cheaper. There's your ram stuffing right there.

ourisman · Nov 18, 2003, 02:32 PM

The only difference between the dual 1.8s and the dual 2.0s, other than clock speed, is the video card. An extra $50 gets you the Radeon 9600 in a custom-ordered configuration.

I think the dual 1.8/9600 for $2550 is a heck of a value ... probably more than 90% of the performance of the 2.0 dualie (a negligible difference for most users) for 85% of the price.