[Sky Captain]

Aaaaah, those smooth-talking french and their well-known diplomacy...

Facts about Israel...

The Middle East has been growing date palms for centuries. The average tree is about 18-20 feet tall and yields about 38 pounds of dates a
year.

Israeli date trees are now yielding 400 pouns/year and are short enough to be harvested from the ground or a short ladder.

Israel, the 100th smallest country, with less than 1/1000th of the world's population, can lay claim to the following :

The cell phone was developed in Israel by Israelis working in the Israeli branch of Motorola, which has its largest development center in Israel.

Some of the Windows NT and XP operating systems were developed by Microsoft-Israel.

The Pentium MMX Chip technology was designed in Israel at Intel.

Both the Pentium-4 microprocessor and the Centrino processor were entirely designed, developed and produced in Israel.

The Pentium microprocessor in your computer was most likely made in Israel.

Voice mail technology was developed in Israel.

Both Microsoft and Cisco built their only R&D facilities outside the US in Israel.

The technology for the AOL Instant Messenger ICQ was developed in 1996 by four young Israelis.

Israel has the fourth largest air force in the world (after the U.S, Russia and China). In addition to a large variety of other aircraft,
Israel's air force has an aerial arsenal of over 250 F-16's. This is the largest fleet of F-16 aircraft outside of the U. S.

Israel's $100 billion economy is larger than all of its immediate neighbors combined.

Israel has the highest percentage in the world of home computers per capita.

According to industry officials, Israel designed the airline industry's most impenetrable flight security. US officials now look (finally) to Israel for advice on how to handle airborne security threats.

Israel has the highest ratio of university degrees to the population in the world.

Israel produces more scientific papers per capita than any other nation by a large margin - 109 per 10,000 people - as well as one of the
highest per capita rates of patents filed.

In proportion to its population, Israel has the largest number of startup companies in the world. In absolute terms, Israel has the
largest number of startup companies than any other country in the world, except the U.S. (3,500 companies mostly in hi-tech).

With more than 3,000 high-tech companies and startups, Israel has the highest concentration of hi-tech companies in the world -- apart from
the Silicon Valley, U.S.

Israel is ranked #2 in the world for venture capital funds right behind the U.S.

Outside the United States and Canada, Israel has the largest number of NASDAQ listed companies.

Israel has the highest average living standards in the Middle East.

The per capita income in 2000 was over $17,500, exceeding that of the UK.

On a per capita basis, Israel has the largest number of biotech startups.

Twenty-four per cent of Israel's workforce holds university degrees, ranking third in the industrialized world, after the United States and Holland and 12 per cent hold advanced degrees.

Israel is the only liberal democracy in the Middle East.

In 1984 and 1991, Israel airlifted a total of 22,000 Ethiopian Jews (Operation Solomon) at Risk in Ethiopia, to safety in Israel.

When Golda Meir was elected Prime Minister of Israel in 1969, she became the world's second elected female leader in modern times.

When the U. S. Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya was bombed in 1998, Israeli rescue teams were on the scene within a day -- and saved three victims from the rubble.

Israel has the third highest rate of entrepreneurship -- and the highest
rate among women and among people over 55 - in the world.

Relative to its population, Israel is the largest immigrant-absorbing nation on earth. Immigrants come in search of democracy, religious freedom, and economic opportunity. (Hundreds of thousands from the former Soviet Union)

Israel was the first nation in the world to adopt the Kimberly process, an international standard that certifies diamonds as "conflict free."

Israel has the world's second highest per capita of new books.

Israel is the only country in the world that entered the 21st century with a net gain in its number of trees, made more remarkable because
this was achieved in an area considered mainly desert.

Israel has more museums per capita than any other country.

Medicine... Israeli scientists developed the first fully computerized, no-radiation, diagnostic instrumentation for breast cancer.

An Israeli company developed a computerized system for ensuring proper administration of medications, thus removing human error from medical treatment. Every year in U. S. hospitals 7,000 patients die from
treatment mistakes.

Israel's Given Imaging developed the first ingestible video camera, so small it fits inside a pill. Used to view the small intestine from the inside, for cancer and digestive disorders.

Researchers in Israel developed a new device that directly helps the heart pump blood, an innovation with the potential to save lives among those with heart failure.

Israel leads the world in the number of scientists and technicians in the workforce, with 145 per 10,000, as opposed to 85 in the U. S., over 70 in Japan, and less than 60 in Germany. With over 25% of its work
force employed in technical professions. Israel places first in this category as well.

A new acne treatment developed in Israel, the Clear Light device, produces a high-intensity, ultraviolet-light-free, narrow-band blue
light that causes acne bacteria to self-destruct - all without damaging surrounding skin or tissue.

An Israeli company was the first to develop and install a large-scale solar-powered and fully functional electricity generating plant, in
southern California's Mojave desert.

All the above while engaged in regular wars with an implacable enemy that seeks its destruction, and an economy continuously under strain by having to spend more per capita on its own protection than any other county on earth.

. .. . . AND THE FRENCH AMBASSADOR IN ENGLAND SAYS :

"ISRAEL IS NOTHING BUT A SHITTY LITTLE COUNTRY"

[Saad]

Why would such a wealthy country want to pursue such an ill-fated policy? Hezbollah only grows stronger (at least in the short term) and Lebanese democracy only grows weaker during these attacks. Presumeably, that's what the ambassador is disgusted by.

Israel's a very wealthy country. It's always kind of sad when terrorist groups like Hezbollah claim they won when their country's not even capable of reliable electrical grids. Seems like if Israel truly wanted to be secure, it would address the poverty in its neighbors.

[Sky Captain]

Hez-blow-allah has won by the "news media's" propaghanda claims only.
It's neighbor's poverty is their own doing.
Israel has proved it.

What do tyhese impoverished countries have in common?

Jewish hatred. check
Opressive Islamic government. check
No nation willing to invest because of the first two. check


And the French "ambassador" is an anti-semite.

[ebuddy]

Originally Posted by Sky Captain

Hez-blow-allah has won by the "news media's" propaghanda claims only.
It's neighbor's poverty is their own doing.
Israel has proved it.

What do tyhese impoverished countries have in common?

Jewish hatred. check
Opressive Islamic government. check
No nation willing to invest because of the first two. check

Wait a minute...

And the French "ambassador" is an anti-semite.

a mangled, to you sir!!!

[Saad]

Originally Posted by Sky Captain

Hez-blow-allah has won by the "news media's" propaghanda claims only.
It's neighbor's poverty is their own doing.
Israel has proved it.

What do tyhese impoverished countries have in common?

Jewish hatred. check
Opressive Islamic government. check
No nation willing to invest because of the first two. check


And the French "ambassador" is an anti-semite.

Lebanon, Jordan, Syria and Egypt don't have Islamic governments. They're all very weak, but not Islamic.

[ebuddy]

Originally Posted by Saad

Why would such a wealthy country want to pursue such an ill-fated policy? Hezbollah only grows stronger (at least in the short term) and Lebanese democracy only grows weaker during these attacks. Presumeably, that's what the ambassador is disgusted by.

Israel's a very wealthy country. It's always kind of sad when terrorist groups like Hezbollah claim they won when their country's not even capable of reliable electrical grids. Seems like if Israel truly wanted to be secure, it would address the poverty in its neighbors.

I can imagine it now. The guy with the black face-mask will run the books on donations no doubt? DONATE NOW TO THE JIHAD DEFENSE...errr... STARVING FRIENDS OF ISRAEL FUND!!!

[Saad]

There's always going to be terrorists in impoverished countries. Israel's neighbors have cheap labor and land. It would be neat if Israel was ever able to capitalize on these resources.

[mduell]

Some of your stats are a bit out of date or misleading.

Israel's GDP per capita is lower than that of either Qatar or the UAE.

The CIA considers Israel to be a money-laundering center.

[Sky Captain]

Like Switzerland?

[Doofy]

Since when did we start taking any notice of anything the French say? Did I miss a memo or something?

[Athens]

The cell phone stuff is misleading too

Bell created the technology for cell phones in the late 50s, Nordic countries had the first real mobile phones on what is now called the 0G networks back in the 50s/60s, the first real mobile phone as in a hand held version was done by Martin Cooper who was educated and from the US. The first examples of the first cell phones in public was in New York and field testing of the phone was done in the Dokotas. If Israel had any part in it, it was improving design not inventing it.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Athens

If Israel had any part in it, it was improving design not inventing it.

Dude, it says "developed", not "invented".

[Skeptik]

Originally Posted by Athens

The cell phone stuff is misleading too

Bell created the technology for cell phones in the late 50s, Nordic countries had the first real mobile phones on what is now called the 0G networks back in the 50s/60s, the first real mobile phone as in a hand held version was done by Martin Cooper who was educated and from the US. The first examples of the first cell phones in public was in New York and field testing of the phone was done in the Dokotas. If Israel had any part in it, it was improving design not inventing it.

Judging by your extremely anti-Semitic signature, can anyone take your views seriously.

[Mark Larr]

Israel has Scitex, the mother of all Pre-Press systems.

Agfa, Linotype/Hell was total garbage.

[Volanges]

If Israel is so fabulously successful why do my taxes have to buy all their bombs? Why are they the #1 recipient of US foreign aid?

[Pendergast]

Whatever.

Israel is a country in its own right, period.

[Busemann]

Originally Posted by Saad

There's always going to be terrorists in countries with religious fanaticism.

Fixed

[Mark Larr]

Originally Posted by Saad

There's always going to be terrorists in impoverished countries. Israel's neighbors have cheap labor and land. It would be neat if Israel was ever able to capitalize on these resources.

Soilent Green comes to mind.

Good solution to Africa's hunger problem and the terrorist problem at the same time.


Everyone wins.

[Obi Wan's Ghost]

Originally Posted by Volanges

If Israel is so fabulously successful why do my taxes have to buy all their bombs? Why are they the #1 recipient of US foreign aid?

Because their hard work brings more capital into the country than it takes out. Yeah and its mostly Jewish and Israeli Americans who send money to support their other homeland.

Our western inventions, our technology and our economy has kept more Arabs in employment and food in their stomachs due to our use of gasoline. Without western industry the majority of the world would be groveling in sh!t right now and cannibalizing each other. The thanks we get? They want us to get out, they shoot our troops, they attack our cities, they don't want us to be successful unless we brainwash ourselves with Koran and bow to them, and even then they are still killing each other.

We don't help Israel. Israel helps itself. We help Arabs a lot more. Their oil would be worth a rotten dinosaur if it weren't for us making it useful. If they worked with the developed world instead of spreading oppression and hate they would live great lives.

[ebuddy]

Originally Posted by Obi Wan's Ghost

Because their hard work brings more capital into the country than it takes out. Yeah and its mostly Jewish and Israeli Americans who send money to support their other homeland.

Our western inventions, our technology and our economy has kept more Arabs in employment and food in their stomachs due to our use of gasoline. Without western industry the majority of the world would be groveling in sh!t right now and cannibalizing each other. The thanks we get? They want us to get out, they shoot our troops, they attack our cities, they don't want us to be successful unless we brainwash ourselves with Koran and bow to them, and even then they are still killing each other.

We don't help Israel. Israel helps itself. We help Arabs a lot more. Their oil would be worth a rotten dinosaur if it weren't for us making it useful. If they worked with the developed world instead of spreading oppression and hate they would live great lives.

Three mangled to you sir!!!

[Saad]

Originally Posted by Busemann

Fixed

There's terrorism in countries without religous fanaticism. The Maoists in Nepal, for example, are not religous.

[Spliffdaddy]

Originally Posted by Obi Wan's Ghost

Because their hard work brings more capital into the country than it takes out. Yeah and its mostly Jewish and Israeli Americans who send money to support their other homeland.

Our western inventions, our technology and our economy has kept more Arabs in employment and food in their stomachs due to our use of gasoline. Without western industry the majority of the world would be groveling in sh!t right now and cannibalizing each other. The thanks we get? They want us to get out, they shoot our troops, they attack our cities, they don't want us to be successful unless we brainwash ourselves with Koran and bow to them, and even then they are still killing each other.

We don't help Israel. Israel helps itself. We help Arabs a lot more. Their oil would be worth a rotten dinosaur if it weren't for us making it useful. If they worked with the developed world instead of spreading oppression and hate they would live great lives.

BAM!

Easily one of the ten best posts of all time.

[Saad]

The Middle East is one of the greatest tragedies in human existance. Except for a few isolated cases (UAE, Bahrain, Qatar), the governemnts are incredibly weak and inefficient. It's really depressing.

[Hawkeye_a]

Originally Posted by Obi Wan's Ghost

Because their hard work brings more capital into the country than it takes out. Yeah and its mostly Jewish and Israeli Americans who send money to support their other homeland.

Our western inventions, our technology and our economy has kept more Arabs in employment and food in their stomachs due to our use of gasoline. Without western industry the majority of the world would be groveling in sh!t right now and cannibalizing each other. The thanks we get? They want us to get out, they shoot our troops, they attack our cities, they don't want us to be successful unless we brainwash ourselves with Koran and bow to them, and even then they are still killing each other.

We don't help Israel. Israel helps itself. We help Arabs a lot more. Their oil would be worth a rotten dinosaur if it weren't for us making it useful. If they worked with the developed world instead of spreading oppression and hate they would live great lives.

Great post. A lot of truth there.

[baw]

Originally Posted by Obi Wan's Ghost

Because their hard work brings more capital into the country than it takes out. Yeah and its mostly Jewish and Israeli Americans who send money to support their other homeland.

Our western inventions, our technology and our economy has kept more Arabs in employment and food in their stomachs due to our use of gasoline. Without western industry the majority of the world would be groveling in sh!t right now and cannibalizing each other. The thanks we get? They want us to get out, they shoot our troops, they attack our cities, they don't want us to be successful unless we brainwash ourselves with Koran and bow to them, and even then they are still killing each other.

We don't help Israel. Israel helps itself. We help Arabs a lot more. Their oil would be worth a rotten dinosaur if it weren't for us making it useful. If they worked with the developed world instead of spreading oppression and hate they would live great lives.

[Busemann]

Originally Posted by Saad

There's terrorism in countries without religous fanaticism. The Maoists in Nepal, for example, are not religous.

Yes probably, but if impoverished countries were to always have terrorism, which is what you said, most of Africa would be the world's center of terrorism.

And it's not as if the Maoists are lacking in fanaticism.

[Obi Wan's Ghost]

If you think of Maoists as people who worship and cling to Mao, then Maoism can be likened to religion or a cult of personality. Anytime a person doesn't use their brain to make decisions individually and take personal responsibility for their actions, they are following a cult and trying to pass the blame for their actions on to a group, religion, nation, cult figure or God.

[Obi Wan's Ghost]

Originally Posted by Busemann

Yes probably, but if impoverished countries were to always have terrorism, which is what you said, most of Africa would be the world's center of terrorism.

And there's the crunch. What's poverty? Would you call the Masai Mara (who I adore) poor? I wouldn't. Would you call a beggar on a street in Baghdad poor? Yes. Is it America or Britain or UK's fault? No. The modern world is doing the best it can to spread development. The only thing that stands in the way is a lack of cooperation, religious hatred and jealousy by those who can't accept Islam isn't the world power Muhammed promised it would be. So people continue to suffer because of the aspirations of Islamic imperialists. If western countries wanted an empire the UK and USA would have declared it in 1945.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Busemann

Fixed

It has nothing to do with religious fanaticism. And more to do with people using religion for their selfish needs.

They use other things than religion. Money/Power are worse.

Lets get rid of those too!

Originally Posted by Saad

There's terrorism in countries without religous fanaticism. The Maoists in Nepal, for example, are not religous.

Exactly.

The people who use Religion as a scape goat for the bad things people do usually have an ulterior motive.

[Mastrap]

Originally Posted by Skeptik

Judging by your extremely anti-Semitic signature, can anyone take your views seriously.

Anti semitic means 'hatred of Jews". Athen's signature does convey nothing of that sort, it makes a political statement, comparing the politics of modern day Israel to the politics of Nazi Germany. Whatever your take on this statement might be, personally I am finding it tasteless, anti semitic it is not.

[villalobos]

Originally Posted by Sky Captain

And the French "ambassador" is an anti-semite.

The guy is dead anyways.

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by villalobos

The guy is dead anyways.

Too little, too late.

[Athens]

Originally Posted by Skeptik

Judging by your extremely anti-Semitic signature, can anyone take your views seriously.

There is nothing anti-Semitic in my signature and im not Anti Jew.

[Athens]

Originally Posted by Busemann

Yes probably, but if impoverished countries were to always have terrorism, which is what you said, most of Africa would be the world's center of terrorism.

And it's not as if the Maoists are lacking in fanaticism.

The countries with the most terrorism are the countries with the most meddling from other countries. Afghanistan = Russia, Iraq = USA, Lebanon, Syria = Israel. For Afghanistan and Iraq it was control of Oil and the middle east which resulted in the meddling in the first place. Partly because the 2 super powers of the times where so dependent on oil neither could allow the other full control of the region. Whats left is a really messed up region with lots of resentment and religious nut cases feed off that to control the countries which is why religion is such a important factor in whats going on now.

[Obi Wan's Ghost]

Originally Posted by Mastrap

Athen's signature does convey nothing of that sort, it makes a political statement, comparing the politics of modern day Israel to the politics of Nazi Germany.

In that case the two banners in his signature should be The Nazi swastika and the Islamic crescent moon and star because the Arabs created an oppressive supremacist ideology that has conquered lands by force and doesn't want Jews to have a place to live, even their original homeland!

The Nazis stole the swastika from the Hindus and reversed it. The Arabs stole the Jewish religion and twisted it!

[Athens]

Originally Posted by Obi Wan's Ghost

In that case the two banners in his signature should be The Nazi swastika and the Islamic crescent moon and star because the Arabs created an oppressive supremacist ideology that has conquered lands by force and doesn't want Jews to have a place to live, even their original homeland!

The Nazis stole the swastika from the Hindus and reversed it. The Arabs stole the Jewish religion and twisted it!

I don’t see Islamic countries invading Israel and occupying land, I see Israel the regions super power doing that. You got small groups of terrorists in a bunch of countries in the region taking pot shots at Israel, but none of those countries are actually attacking or trying to invade Israel. Israel is the over reacting aggressor in the region trying to use fear and terror to solve its problem with the terrorist groups and is victimizing the wrong people trying to accomplish its goal. Its not my fault Israel decided to use a religious symbol in its national state flag.

[Obi Wan's Ghost]

Originally Posted by Athens

I don’t see Islamic countries invading Israel and occupying land

Holy The Force! You contradict yourself in one ****ing sentence. In one ****ing sentence you said "Islamic countries' and 'don't see them invading and occupying countries'. How the **** do you think Islam spread? Ever read a few history books? Do you know why Jews lost their country, or Buddhists in Bactria, or Zoroastrians in Persia, or Hindus in the northern Punjab and Kashmir, and Buddhists in Indonesia........the list goes on. Did you see Jews doing that to anyone?

They are only fighting for their homeland. Are you an adult and intelligent enough to understand something soooooooooo simple?

Answer this, what did Christians, Buddhists, Hindus and Jews ever do to the Arabs to warrant the invasions, prejudice, threats that still go on today?

Anwer: nothing. The plain fact is the Roman empire was cracking and the Arabs launched an invasion of Roman territories and beyond because they wanted an empire of their own. Islam was created during and after the invasion building upon Judaism and Christianity in order to ease conversion and make the conquered bow to Mecca. Islam means 'surrender'. Many did, it wasn't to God.

The people you call Muslims today are victims of the imperialist ambitions of 6th century sheikhs who were interested in filling their coffers with the same wealth that the Caesers had.

[Sky Captain]

Originally Posted by Athens

I don’t see Islamic countries invading Israel and occupying land, ...

Its not my fault Israel decided to use a religious symbol in its national state flag.

#1, they know better

#2 Many Islamic countries do also. You know better.

[itai195]

Originally Posted by Athens

I don’t see Islamic countries invading Israel

That's only because they lost every time they tried. Jordan and Egypt did manage to occupy the Palestinian territories for about 20 years, though.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Sky Captain

#2 Many Islamic countries do also.

Not to mention a big bunch of western countries.

[Athens]

Originally Posted by Obi Wan's Ghost

Holy The Force! You contradict yourself in one ****ing sentence. In one ****ing sentence you said "Islamic countries' and 'don't see them invading and occupying countries'. How the **** do you think Islam spread? Ever read a few history books? Do you know why Jews lost their country, or Buddhists in Bactria, or Zoroastrians in Persia, or Hindus in the northern Punjab and Kashmir, and Buddhists in Indonesia........the list goes on. Did you see Jews doing that to anyone?

They are only fighting for their homeland. Are you an adult and intelligent enough to understand something soooooooooo simple?

Answer this, what did Christians, Buddhists, Hindus and Jews ever do to the Arabs to warrant the invasions, prejudice, threats that still go on today?

Anwer: nothing. The plain fact is the Roman empire was cracking and the Arabs launched an invasion of Roman territories and beyond because they wanted an empire of their own. Islam was created during and after the invasion building upon Judaism and Christianity in order to ease conversion and make the conquered bow to Mecca. Islam means 'surrender'. Many did, it wasn't to God.

The people you call Muslims today are victims of the imperialist ambitions of 6th century sheikhs who were interested in filling their coffers with the same wealth that the Caesers had.

the here and now, not the past, who is doing the invading, Israel. BTW look up the crusades.

[Athens]

Originally Posted by Sky Captain

#1, they know better

#2 Many Islamic countries do also. You know better.

for number 2, why is it when your Anti Israel, Jews automatically think your anti jew or Anti Semitic but when you are Anti Iraq or Iran, Muslims dont bitch about you being Anti Muslim or Anti Islamic? Why can Muslims see the difference and Jews and people like you cant?

[Obi Wan's Ghost]

Originally Posted by Athens

the here and now, not the past, who is doing the invading, Israel.

There are Islamists throughout the world talking about converting, spreading and dominating. The French are quivering in their boots about it and the Italians are an inch away from getting really pissed.

BTW look up the crusades.

What for? The Christian response to Islamic conquests and oppression? The doctrine of Just War was exactly that and they lost every crusade bar the first due to how much more warlike the Islamic armies were. The Christian soldiers were disorganised, pissed off and couldn't understand how Jesus and war mixed (just like modern Christian soldiers). In Islam there is no problem because Muhammed was a war monger and hater. It's not hard to be a violent and oppressive Islamic soldat because Muhammed ordered jihad and dhimmism.

when you are Anti Iraq or Iran, Muslims dont bitch about you being Anti Muslim or Anti Islamic

Right, you are from another planet. Muslims get pissed off over even a cartoon even when there's no rule in Islam against drawing Muhammed.

[Athens]

Originally Posted by Obi Wan's Ghost

There are Islamists throughout the world talking about converting, spreading and dominating. The French are quivering in their boots about it and the Italians are an inch away from getting really pissed.




What for? The Christian response to Islamic conquests and oppression? The doctrine of Just War was exactly that and they lost every crusade bar the first due to how much more warlike the Islamic armies were. The Christian soldiers were disorganised, pissed off and couldn't understand how Jesus and war mixed (just like modern Christian soldiers). In Islam there is no problem because Muhammed was a war monger and hater. It's not hard to be a violent and oppressive Islamic soldat because Muhammed ordered jihad and dhimmism.

So are we talking about countries and states or religious people. So you are saying Israel is punishing Islamic countries because of the faith to Islam. Lets weed out Islam for security. Sounds like Nazi Germanys excuse to wipe out Jews.

[Moderator]

If I had the choice of going to battle for Israel in Lebanon or the US in Iraq...I'd choose Israel...and I'm not Jewish. They have a legitimate fight...as opposed to our fight in Iraq, which we pulled out of our ass.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Athens

Lets weed out Islam for security. Sounds like Nazi Germanys excuse to wipe out Jews.

I'm glad I have you as a history teacher, Athens. I never knew that this was the reason why old Adolf wanted the Jews gone. Thanks!

[Athens]

Originally Posted by Moderator

If I had the choice of going to battle for Israel in Lebanon or the US in Iraq...I'd choose Israel...and I'm not Jewish. They have a legitimate fight...as opposed to our fight in Iraq, which we pulled out of our ass.

Agreed, the battle in Lebanon is more legitimate then Iraq. But I think Israel is making a big mistake.

[Skeptik]

Originally Posted by Athens

for number 2, why is it when your Anti Israel, Jews automatically think your anti jew or Anti Semitic but when you are Anti Iraq or Iran, Muslims dont bitch about you being Anti Muslim or Anti Islamic? Why can Muslims see the difference and Jews and people like you cant?

Saying "no it isn't" is not a valid argument pal!

A Nazi flag being equated to an Israeli one is extremely offensive to those who live there. By extension, the large majority of Israelis are Jewish, and therefore your banner is offensive to Jews. Oh, and the word Semite covers ALL Israelies. The Nazis, to whom you compare Jews, carried out some extremely cruel acts for no reason other than Lebensraum and ethnic cleansing. Hardly comparable to a nation intent on preventing attacks on it's civilians.

You Sir, are out of order. You would not get away with your behaviour in Europe - especially in Germany where the swastika is banned. Your diagram is nothing but hate speech and should be removed forthwith.

[glideslope]

Originally Posted by Saad

The Middle East is one of the greatest tragedies in human existance. Except for a few isolated cases (UAE, Bahrain, Qatar), the governemnts are incredibly weak and inefficient. It's really depressing.

Could not agree more. Let's finish it this time.

[bstone]

Originally Posted by Athens

There is nothing anti-Semitic in my signature and im not Anti Jew.

Yes it is. Yes you are.

Sincerely,

A Jew