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Gossamer · Nov 9, 2006, 11:02 AM

I wanted to see if this was a college-only phenomenon, or if anyone else was doing it...for 1/12 of your life you have an opportunity to let your face finally express itself. I currently have a nice goatee going, but not much besides that. Anyone else?

Dakar² · Nov 9, 2006, 11:05 AM

I went through no shave october for my Halloween costume. I'll pass, thanks.

ambush · Nov 9, 2006, 11:17 AM

would do, but my job requires me to shave frequently

mdc · Nov 9, 2006, 11:46 AM

I only shave once a week anyway.

SeSawaya · Nov 9, 2006, 12:00 PM

I missed the memo

BlueSky · Nov 9, 2006, 12:14 PM

I'm shaving my butt, walking backwards and looking better than ever.

xi_hyperon · Nov 9, 2006, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

...for 1/12 of your life you have an opportunity to let your face finally express itself.

If you're only 1 year old, I doubt anyone will notice that you hadn't shaved.

Dork. · Nov 9, 2006, 12:36 PM

Sure, I'll do no-shave November!

(Of course, for me, it's no-shave December through October, too!)

Chuckit · Nov 9, 2006, 12:50 PM

No way. I am not a fan of the beard.

ort888 · Nov 9, 2006, 12:53 PM

I go a month without shaving all the time. Not a big deal.

tiffer17 · Nov 9, 2006, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by xi_hyperon

If you're only 1 year old, I doubt anyone will notice that you hadn't shaved.

Ah, but if you don't shave every november, that does make up approximately 1/12th of your life.

Rumor · Nov 9, 2006, 01:46 PM

Shaving is over-rated anyhow.

Jawbone54 · Nov 9, 2006, 03:09 PM

I can't go without shaving, due to my job, but I did have a beard for about 3 weeks. It itched.

Kerrigan · Nov 9, 2006, 03:20 PM

Beards are kinda icky.

turtle777 · Nov 9, 2006, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by mdc

I only shave once a week anyway.

Me, too.

A clean shave is futile. Talk about the 1.00 PM shadow.

-t

Dakar² · 03:40 PM

I'd shave less often if my stubble were more consistent and even.

IceEnclosure · Nov 9, 2006, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

A clean shave is futile. Talk about the 1.00 PM shadow.

Through a combination of a Braun electric razor and whatever triple-blade dealy I can get a tight shave with hot water and good lotion/gel. But yea, by the afternoon it's long-gone. Especially if I've been drinkin' and cursin'.

Rumor · Nov 9, 2006, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by IceEnclosure

Through a combination of a Braun electric razor and whatever triple-blade dealy I can get a tight shave with hot water and good lotion/gel. But yea, by the afternoon it's long-gone. Especially if I've been drinkin' and cursin'.

Drinking and cursing cause beards? That would explain that lady at the bar.

bstone · Nov 9, 2006, 03:59 PM

I won't shave in november, december or the past 4 years.

Jawbone54 · Nov 9, 2006, 04:01 PM

Electric razors are crap on my beard. I have to use a Mach 3. The new Gillette Fusion doesn't shave close for me at all either. One blade isn't enough, and five is too many.

I only shave on Sunday mornings and Wednesday evenings. I'm a youth pastor, so I have to look presentable at church. My stubble on Wednesday mornings and Fridays is barely permissable by office standards.

Holidays are an excuse to go an entire week without shaving, which is sadly almost enough for me to grow a beard. A full, bushy beard only takes about 2 weeks.

Dakar² · Nov 9, 2006, 04:04 PM

...

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Alright, I'll bite.
Didn't Jesus have a beard?

Chuckit · Nov 9, 2006, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

Alright, I'll bite.
Didn't Jesus have a beard?

He also probably didn't bathe that often. Standards vary from culture to culture.

kmkkid · Nov 9, 2006, 04:08 PM

Too late, I just got finished shaving my face and.. um down there v

Dakar² · Nov 9, 2006, 04:08 PM

Mmm... You're right, it's probably a technology issue.

Jawbone54 · Nov 9, 2006, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

Alright, I'll bite.
Didn't Jesus have a beard?

Yes, He did - an argument that I've made many times.

It's increasingly becoming less of an issue in my denomination, but the "clean-shaven" look is still kind of kosher for ministers at this point in time. Don't ask me why.

Jawbone54 · Nov 9, 2006, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

He also probably didn't bathe that often. Standards vary from culture to culture.

My grandpa (84 years old) remembers taking his "Saturday bath" when he was 8 years old or so.

Dakar² · Nov 9, 2006, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

Yes, He did - an argument that I've made many times.

It's increasingly becoming less of an issue in my denomination, but the "clean-shaven" look is still kind of kosher for ministers at this point in time. Don't ask me why.

I worked at a grocery store founded in 1912 when I was in college. Let me tell you their appearance policies probably were updated every 50 years.

But to address your point more directly, I've never bought into the being clean shaven signifies you're a better person assumption. Reeks of judging a book by its cover (which assume those people would tell you not to do).

Chuckit · Nov 9, 2006, 04:20 PM

My bishop back at my old church asked me to cut my hair (which was about shoulder-length at the time, if I recall) because I was distracting the old people. I thought it was a stupid request, but I went along with it anyway.

Rumor · Nov 9, 2006, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

My grandpa (84 years old) remembers taking his "Saturday bath" when he was 8 years old or so.

That's pretty often.

Jawbone54 · Nov 9, 2006, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

I worked at a grocery store founded in 1912 when I was in college. Let me tell you their appearance policies probably were updated every 50 years.

But to address your point more directly, I've never bought into the being clean shaven signifies you're a better person assumption. Reeks of judging a book by its cover (which assume those people would tell you not to do).

I agree. There is actually Bible for a man's hair being short (1 Cor. 11:14), but the facial hair thing is kind of ridiculous, IMO.

Let me clarify that many of the men in our churches have facial hair (and some with long hair). It's just for the ministers that it applies to.

Gossamer · Nov 9, 2006, 04:31 PM

I think the point is to remain respectable within your culture. The problem with saying 'It's okay to grow a beard' is where do you draw the line? A foot long beard on a pastor would be kind of distracting, I think, not to mention a lot of people would think he's some sort of hobo.
A pastor at a Methodist church I used to go to had a well trimmed beard, and there was nothing wrong with it.

nredman · Nov 9, 2006, 04:33 PM

for the last two years i have grown out my beard from thanksgiving to xmas - it really sucks for about a week when it itches like a mother ducker

Dakar² · Nov 9, 2006, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

My bishop back at my old church asked me to cut my hair (which was about shoulder-length at the time, if I recall) because I was distracting the old people. I thought it was a stupid request, but I went along with it anyway.

You're a bigger man than I. (Not that I've ever had long hair)

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

Let me clarify that many of the men in our churches have facial hair (and some with long hair). It's just for the ministers that it applies to.

I assumed as much.

Dakar² · Nov 9, 2006, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

I think the point is to remain respectable within your culture. The problem with saying 'It's okay to grow a beard' is where do you draw the line? A foot long beard on a pastor would be kind of distracting, I think, not to mention a lot of people would think he's some sort of hobo.
A pastor at a Methodist church I used to go to had a well trimmed beard, and there was nothing wrong with it.

Bingo. Its being well kept. You can have a beard and not look like grizzly adams.

Jawbone54 · Nov 9, 2006, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

Bingo. Its being well kept. You can have a beard and not look like grizzly adams.

I wholeheartedly agree.

ironknee · Nov 9, 2006, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

I agree. There is actually Bible for a man's hair being short (1 Cor. 11:14), but the facial hair thing is kind of ridiculous, IMO.

Let me clarify that many of the men in our churches have facial hair (and some with long hair). It's just for the ministers that it applies to.

really? the bible says one should have short hair? wow i didn't know that

but, you know who had long hair+full beard

Gossamer · Nov 9, 2006, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by ironknee

really? the bible says one should have short hair? wow i didn't know that

but, you know who had long hair+full beard

Oh yeah, all of those photographs we have of him confirm that

Originally Posted by 1 Corinthians 11:14-15

Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering.

My study Bible's notes say this:

Believers must be conscious of how their actions appear in their culture, in light of what is considered to be honorable behavior

ambush · Nov 9, 2006, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

My bishop back at my old church asked me to cut my hair (which was about shoulder-length at the time, if I recall) because I was distracting the old people. I thought it was a stupid request, but I went along with it anyway.

didn't Jesus have long hair

Gossamer · Nov 9, 2006, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by ambush

didn't Jesus have long hair

Didn't you read any of Jawbone's/my posts?

goMac · Nov 9, 2006, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by ambush

didn't Jesus have long hair

The last thing the church needs is someone out-hairing Jesus.

PurpleGiant · Nov 9, 2006, 06:15 PM

No-shave-vember? Wacky.

It's Movember, folks! And you don't just not shave, you grow a mo! Mine is shaping up decently now, on this 10th day of Movember. Pics soon.

Salty · Nov 9, 2006, 06:33 PM

The OTHER dorm up stairs has a Hairy Till January thing going from October till January. It's pretty dang gross. I have a lil "soul patch" but other than that, you really gotta be able to pull off the facial hair... and most guys can't.

Kevin · Nov 9, 2006, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

I agree. There is actually Bible for a man's hair being short (1 Cor. 11:14), but the facial hair thing is kind of ridiculous, IMO.

Short compared to a woman's hair. Which really wasn't supposed to be cut.

Men wore their hair long to our standards.

Jawbone54 · Nov 9, 2006, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Short compared to a woman's hair. Which really wasn't supposed to be cut.

Men wore their hair long to our standards.

My denomination's women don't cut their hair; or are at least taught not to cut it. Many of them cut it anyways.

I'm not being a smart aleck, but what makes you think men wore their hair long during Jesus' time? I've read that most men kept their hair very short during those times. I'm open to discussion though.

Jawbone54 · Nov 9, 2006, 09:24 PM

And as for Jesus' appeance: there are no specific details given concerning Jesus' appearance besides the mention of his beard (being plucked from his face).

From Wikipedia...

Recently, a team of forensic scientists from the UK and Israel attempted to construct what Jesus may have looked like. Starting with a skull from that time period, they reconstructed the face.
Critics point out that this method only produces an image of a (perhaps typical) Jew from the first century, and does not say anything more about what Jesus looks like than a photo of one modern man tells you what another specific modern man looks like.
However, the project was never intended to determine exactly what Jesus looked like; it was designed only to provide an image that would be closer to what Jesus looked like than modern depictions are.

PurpleGiant · Nov 9, 2006, 09:37 PM

My first ten days of Movember. Day one clean shaven in the first picture, through to day ten today in the last picture.

It's gettin' there.

natnabour · Nov 9, 2006, 09:40 PM

um.....so does this rule apply to women too?

not the...beard growing part....just the no-shaving part.
ahem. leaving the post with only the first sentence was an open call for some....insults.

Gossamer · Nov 9, 2006, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by natnabour

um.....so does this rule apply to women too?

not the...beard growing part....just the no-shaving part.
ahem. leaving the post with only the first sentence was an open call for some....insults.

I know some girls that aren't shaving their legs for the month.

ironknee · Nov 9, 2006, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

And as for Jesus' appeance: there are no specific details given concerning Jesus' appearance besides the mention of his beard (being plucked from his face).

From Wikipedia...

i saw that show on tlc, history or science channel or whatever...

anyways, so most if not all of the art depicting jesus are off target? and if so, who don't we ever see a crucifix of jesus with short hair in churches or their own depiction of him?

i'm just asking mostly from an artist point of view...where did all the great ones get their references?

Gossamer · Nov 9, 2006, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by ironknee

i saw that show on tlc, history or science channel or whatever...

anyways, so most if not all of the art depicting jesus are off target? and if so, who don't we ever see a crucifix of jesus with short hair in churches or their own depiction of him?

i'm just asking mostly from an artist point of view...where did all the great ones get their references?

I'm assuming mostly tradition. How many people have the long hair long beard image? It's what people think of, so that's how people draw it. The Bible does hint that he wasn't necessarily attractive, IIRC.