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Bill Maher Questions Obama's Christianity: "I Just Don't Believe It
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Feb 13, 2011, 12:06 PM
 
YouTube - Maher Questions Obama's Christianity: "I Just Don't Believe It"
Calling him a "secular humanist"(his mother was, he said), Bill Maher is essentially calling President Obama an atheist. One of the guests says "he changed his mind on the god question " Another says "he went to church before he ran for President" My P.U.M.A brother says this was done for street cred when he ran for the Illinois state senate. Too bad it wasn't Bill O'Reilly instead of Bill Maher, then it might actually gets some press.
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Feb 13, 2011, 12:44 PM
 
someone's trying to generate ratings by trying to generate controversy?
     
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Feb 13, 2011, 01:14 PM
 
Why should we care?
     
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Feb 13, 2011, 02:24 PM
 
Maher? Who cares.
     
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Feb 13, 2011, 02:37 PM
 
Like I said in the OP, had Bill O'reilly made the statement, above the fold.
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Feb 13, 2011, 03:21 PM
 
Okay, well then, thanks for sharing?

This story would be just as meh to me if O'Reilly reported it, maybe even more so.

Now if this came from the corpse of John Lennon, that would be interesting!
     
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Feb 14, 2011, 03:24 AM
 
P.u.m.a.?
     
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Feb 14, 2011, 07:38 AM
 
Most everything Obama says about himself is questionable.

He's an empty suit, marketed for mass consumption. I remember back when he was supposed to be John McCain in blackface. That was a superb performance, rivaling that of any song and dance the corpse of John Lennon would ever be able to pull off.

As always, sometimes you don't always see the "hype" until you buy the product. Obama's ratings show buyer's remorse.
     
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Feb 14, 2011, 11:35 AM
 
Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
Too bad it wasn't Bill O'Reilly instead of Bill Maher, then it might actually gets some press.
Yeah, someone on Fox News thinking Obama isn't Christian would really gather some media attention.
     
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Feb 14, 2011, 11:49 AM
 
BREAKING: Obama not publicly passionate about his Christianity, some suspect he may be just going through the motions. In other news, although about 80% of Americans claim to belong to a religious denomination, polls consistently show that only between 25-40% regularly attend religious services, others probably prefer watching football.

I blame wherever it is Obama was actually born (Kenya? Mars? Maybe!)

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Feb 14, 2011, 12:30 PM
 
I hope he is an atheist.

It would be nice if an open atheist could run for office in this country, but unfortunately most Christians in this country are too close-minded...

In a related note, I'm willing to wager that the majority of politicians are just going through the motions with their Christianity.

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Feb 14, 2011, 01:51 PM
 
Meh, who cares? He's not getting reelected anyway.
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Feb 14, 2011, 03:38 PM
 
Originally Posted by stupendousman View Post
As always, sometimes you don't always see the "hype" until you buy the product. Obama's ratings show buyer's remorse.
I agree, I'm disappointed but not surprised.
I thought he was to soft, Hillary would have been better.
     
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Feb 14, 2011, 03:39 PM
 
Originally Posted by Shaddim View Post
Meh, who cares? He's not getting reelected anyway.
Depends on who the right puts up.
     
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Feb 14, 2011, 04:08 PM
 
Originally Posted by Shaddim View Post
Meh, who cares? He's not getting reelected anyway.
I don't understand why people like yourself feel that this is a foregone conclusion, based an approval polls and history, not to mention what could happen in the next two years.
     
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Feb 14, 2011, 04:09 PM
 
Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
I don't understand why people like yourself feel that this is a foregone conclusion, based an approval polls and history, not to mention what could happen in the next two years.
Because people like you will take the bait every time.
     
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Feb 14, 2011, 05:25 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Because people like you will take the bait every time.

Ahhh, well then, I guess I should have qualified my question with an "other than provocation"
     
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Feb 14, 2011, 05:27 PM
 
Obama's alleged White Sox fandom is also suspect.

My world is turning upside down! I need to know if Boehner will "take him at his word" on this, too.

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Feb 14, 2011, 09:01 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Because people like you will take the bait every time.
It's like putting bread on a window sill, for serious.
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Feb 14, 2011, 10:35 PM
 
Originally Posted by Shaddim View Post
Meh, who cares? He's not getting reelected anyway.
Besides the Mormon guy, there are no credible names being floated right now. At this point, it's a certainly for Obama.
     
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Originally Posted by lpkmckenna View Post
Besides the Mormon guy, there are no credible names being floated right now. At this point, it's a certainly for Obama.
At this point, as long as the name ISN'T Obama, they have a shot. I think that the last poll I saw even Palin was either tied or polling above him.

With the "new" rubbed off him, the media won't be as kind in 2012. He might actually be forced to explain why he's hiding so much about his past. Unless a miracle happens, he's toast. He's yet to prove himself to be self aware and truly change coarse as Clinton did. I predict there may even be a party challenger for him.
     
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Feb 15, 2011, 12:19 AM
 
Obama is going to have to work hard to get his contract renewed in 2012, but his challenges will have nothing to do with his birth certificate, and hopefully nothing to do with speculation about how much of a Christain he is.
     
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Feb 15, 2011, 12:59 AM
 
Originally Posted by Shaddim View Post
It's like putting bread on a window sill, for serious.

Fresh or stale?

You didn't get me all riled up, I just wasn't sure if you were being serious. If Obama doesn't get re-elected, so be it.
     
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Originally Posted by Wiskedjak View Post
Obama is going to have to work hard to get his contract renewed in 2012, but his challenges will have nothing to do with his birth certificate, and hopefully nothing to do with speculation about how much of a Christain he is.
I wasn't just referencing his birth certificate. He's got a long record of hiding or lying about his past. A record that a the media would never have let a Republican candidate get away with, and might not even let an unpopular Democrat who they might like see challenged get away with.

That's on top of his dismal record and failures.
     
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Originally Posted by Wiskedjak View Post
Obama is going to have to work hard to get his contract renewed in 2012, but his challenges will have nothing to do with his birth certificate, and hopefully nothing to do with speculation about how much of a Christain he is.
I'm sure the birthers won't give it up, That's why Obama will win.
Sad really, Hillary would rock.
Maybe they would win?
     
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Originally Posted by stupendousman View Post
I wasn't just referencing his birth certificate. He's got a long record of hiding or lying about his past.
You're right, of course! If he really wanted us to know about his past, he'd write a book or two about it.
     
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You're right, of course! If he really wanted us to know about his past, he'd write a book or two about it.
Non-fiction preferably.

I guess that's the standard we'll use for all politicians.

If Bush wanted us to know about his service record, his drunk driving arrest, or whether or not there where WMD's in Iraq, he would have just wrote about it in a book.

If Clinton wanted us to know about his shady land deals or history of sexual harassment, he'd just write a book about it.

Nixon should have just held onto the deleted audio recordings and saved those for a book as well!
     
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Feb 21, 2011, 12:44 PM
 
Originally Posted by Wiskedjak View Post
someone's trying to generate ratings by trying to generate controversy?
Hardly. Maher's just trying to get more people to admit to not believing. He thinks a lot of people just give lip service to religion instead of admitting their own doubts or outright disbelief.
     
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Originally Posted by screener View Post
I'm sure the birthers won't give it up, That's why Obama will win.
Sad really, Hillary would rock.
Maybe they would win?
Obama WON'T WIN.. Its the Economy stupid.
He ruined it with his idiotic policies and his radical advisors.
didn't work in Chicago, didn't work in California either.

Harry Reid will sink Obama.
     
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I don't understand why people like yourself feel that this is a foregone conclusion, based an approval polls and history, not to mention what could happen in the next two years.
Yeah, I'd say that he's virtually guaranteed reelection.

The Republicans won big in 2010, so they'll get the blame for whatever's wrong in 2012 and after two years of gridlock in Congress, I'm betting a lot will be wrong. What's more, we know the voters in 2010 were demographically older and that younger voters, who lean by and large further left, come out for presidential elections.
     
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Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post
Obama WON'T WIN.. Its the Economy stupid.
He ruined it with his idiotic policies and his radical advisors.
didn't work in Chicago, didn't work in California either.

Harry Reid will sink Obama.
How did Obama ruin the economy? The recession started before he took office.
     
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Originally Posted by Helmling View Post
How did Obama ruin the economy? The recession started before he took office.
It continued well after most other Presidents would have likely put a plan into place which would help remedy the problem, instead of making it worse.

Originally Posted by Helmling View Post
Yeah, I'd say that he's virtually guaranteed reelection.

The Republicans won big in 2010, so they'll get the blame for whatever's wrong in 2012 and after two years of gridlock in Congress, I'm betting a lot will be wrong. .
I doubt that's true. With two years of gridlock and the Republicans not really getting to put any of their plans into place, having only the House and not being in charge at Executive, it's going to be hard to spin it as the Republicans fault. I don't think that the guy at the top is going to benefit unless things go up, and I'm betting they won't since he has the power to veto the stuff that would likely help (the country, but not his party).
     
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Like Democrats were able to get through all of the stuff they wanted? Gridlock is gridlock, it goes both ways. Most people just want to see progress, they are mostly apolitical or non-ideological.
     
   
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