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Sep 14, 2011, 08:46 AM
 
Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
An engineer who can actually build things? My head just exploded!

Excellent work Laminar, soffit lighting is a nice touch and I love the 'stage' area under the projector screen. If you need to fly anyone out to Iowa and pay them handsomely to build some custom cabinetry I'm your man! Hehe, in all seriousness you seem to have a pretty solid grasp on carpentry and I'm sure that room is going to look amazing when it is done.
Thanks!

My wife did say "our" next project is some built-ins in the living room.
     
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Sep 14, 2011, 08:49 AM
 
Originally Posted by olePigeon View Post
I hope you play this when it's all done.

DTS Intro HD - YouTube
Ha! This one's pretty good, too:

Living World Of Audio HD DTS 1080p - YouTube

My cheap Logitec computer speakers completely flipped out when I played it just now...
     
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...and his entire house costs...4 times less....
Exactly.
     
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Sep 14, 2011, 08:51 PM
 
Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
Thanks!

My wife did say "our" next project is some built-ins in the living room.
Better draw the line at the granny house for your mother-in-law.
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Nov 21, 2011, 02:14 PM
 
I recently helped my brother-in-law setup his HT, and he'd gotten a cheap pair of speakers from Monoprice for his main left/right channels. I can't say they're great for music, but they're very good for movies and such. Anyway, they're only $42 /pair today, and for home theater that's the steal of the year. Just a heads up.

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Apr 1, 2012, 10:01 PM
 
Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
Ha! This one's pretty good, too:

Living World Of Audio HD DTS 1080p - YouTube

My cheap Logitec computer speakers completely flipped out when I played it just now...
Time to upgrade the Computer speakers too?
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Any update on your home theatre? All your old pics are gone.
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Apr 3, 2012, 01:06 PM
 
He posted an almost complete pic in one of the recent "Rob's Back" threads. Not sure which one.
     
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Jun 3, 2014, 09:35 AM
 
SURPRISE UPDATE!

When we last left off nearly 3 years ago, I had the screen up, the stage built, and some paint slapped up on the walls. Here's what has happened since then.
     
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Originally Posted by November 2011
Enclosing the lower space:







Speaker cover frames built:







Left frame wrapped and installed, areas behind speakers and beside screen painted Mouse Ears Black:







Both speaker covers installed:




Mounts for Surround Rear speakers installed:







Left to do:


- Order furniture (I'm liking the Berkline Tangiers)

- Build second row riser

- Install carpeting

- Apply acoustic treatments

- Get iPod Touch working as a universal remote


So not a lot left to do, but those five things probably constitute around $3200. They will come as funds are available. Also, my receiver has been flaky, cutting out randomly and showing artifacts on the screen. I didn't get much help in the TX-SR608 thread and I haven't heard anything back from Onkyo tech support. I should get this taken care of before the 1 year warranty runs out, though.
     
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And finally some more progress. My seats came in and I started working on the riser this morning.


I installed one back to get the feel of the seat (comfy!) and left the rest off for easy maneuverability.


The seats are in place where they will be permanently, minus 13" of elevation.







View from the far right seat:




And far left:




Riser frame with stair squared in:







I priced out OC703 at my local Home Depot yesterday, here are the prices I got:


4'x8' x 1" 12pcs/pk, $233

4'x8' x 2" 6psc/pk, $233

2'x4' x 3" 8pcs/pk, $116


There's a 5 pack minimum order and a 14 day lead time. My previous calculations had used 4" thickness for the bass traps, so I'm going to have to redo this to see if ordering online will be a better deal or not.


Of course it just struck me that since I went with the straight seats instead of curved, the far left recliner is going to recline directly into the corner bass trap. Again, might have to rethink this...
     
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Originally Posted by January 2012
Watching the Iowa State and Iowa bowl games on New Year's Eve Eve.








I also got a PS3 Move setup for Christmas and picked up 3 more motion controllers on sale at Target for $40 each, it's pretty fun, but it seems that most Move party games got poor reviews. I guess I'll have to pick up a couple used and see for myself. Sports Champions went over well.
     
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Originally Posted by February 2012
Stripped and ready for carpeting:





All carpeted!








I'm hoping to do the trim this week.
     
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Jun 3, 2014, 09:47 AM
 
And with everything put together:







And in March 2012 we found out baby was on the way! All discretionary funds were locked up and this is how the room sat until last week.
     
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Jun 3, 2014, 09:59 AM
 
For my birthday this year, we finally decided to finish off the soffits.

I replaced the homemade MDF speaker mounts with legit mounts, and the soffits were lined with OC 703 acoustic insulation.


After that, the insulation was covered with Guilford of Maine FR701 fire resistant and acoustically-transparent fabric.




Trim painted and installed:


With the lights poking through:


I honestly don't know if it made a large difference in acoustics - I didn't really do any back-to-back listening sessions nor did I take any measurements. I might run the auto-calibration on my receiver again to see what it picks up now.

It looks great now and we're really happy with it. To totally call it completed, we still need to install blackout curtains for daytime viewing, finish trimming and painting the equipment cabinet, and do some touchup paint on the walls - all of this construction isn't nice to the paint, and the ultra matte paints I used aren't forgiving of flaws.
     
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Jun 3, 2014, 06:14 PM
 
I'm impressed. That's a lot of work, and plenty of dough too.

A question, are you happy with the light-colored carpet? I believe theaters use darker carpet as a rule.
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Jun 3, 2014, 07:41 PM
 
Swank. I'm just happy my spouse wired up the surround sound correctly.

A room like that, must be the popular place for your friends to visit (and now that you have a young one, not like you're going out to the movies! )
     
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Jun 4, 2014, 06:50 AM
 
Very professional looking! How well do the window blinds manage the light? My great room has east-facing windows with blinds, but depending on the time of year, I get more or less light spillage, even with the blinds closed.

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Jun 4, 2014, 09:11 AM
 
Looks great. I always just assumed that darker carpets in theatres was to hide spilled drinks/popcorn butter stains. Wonder if there's a visual component as well?
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Jun 4, 2014, 09:52 AM
 
Originally Posted by reader50 View Post
I'm impressed. That's a lot of work, and plenty of dough too.

A question, are you happy with the light-colored carpet? I believe theaters use darker carpet as a rule.
The carpet is much darker than the pictures make it look - because everything in the room is flat, matte, and black, the carpet is the only thing reflecting light so it shows up as very light.

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Very professional looking! How well do the window blinds manage the light? My great room has east-facing windows with blinds, but depending on the time of year, I get more or less light spillage, even with the blinds closed.
The blinds do pretty poorly, especially since the three main windows face west with no tree cover. It's fine in the fall/winter/spring when it's dark by 7 but right now it's staying light out until after 9 so I get some spillage and pattern on the screen. Usually not a big deal, but I think some blackout curtains are in the plan.
     
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Jun 4, 2014, 11:48 AM
 
but I think some blackout curtains are in the plan.
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Oct 2, 2014, 10:31 AM
 
I took some updated pics now that the soffits are done.









It's kind of hard to capture light in a room specifically designed to absorb it, but you get the idea.
     
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Looks great.

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Oct 3, 2014, 02:45 PM
 
Yup great job....now that you have a kid it must be great to have a fantastic theatre room you don't use
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Oct 3, 2014, 03:27 PM
 
Well, the couch is usually moved out because it's a great place to roll around and roughhouse - it's the nicest carpet in our house by far - so the room itself does get used... We occasionally do Redboxes down there and I've managed to put 100+ hours into Far Cry 3 over lunch breaks. Also hosted a couple of man-baby showers and enjoyed the space.
     
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Oct 3, 2014, 04:19 PM
 
actually, I'd say having a home theater is great if you have a kid, since you're not likely to get out to a real theater that often, unless it's the latest Disney/Pixar/Dreamworks animated feature.

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The seats look a little too far back from the screen.
     
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The seats look a little too far back from the screen.
They are.
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Oct 6, 2014, 08:16 AM
 
Yeah, but with a rectangular room and the entrance door in the back corner, you're going to have some layout trade-offs. Ideally that door in the middle of the room would be the entrance, and he could centre the seats, pull them off the wall 3 feet, and have a built-in mini bar in the back....

But I think he already said that the middle door goes somewhere else? So I think unless you're completely anal about precise sound positioning, it's a great theatre room!
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Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
The seats look a little too far back from the screen.
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They are.
With a 130" diagonal screen and a 17' viewing distance, the seats fall well under the max THX recommended viewing distance and hits right at the distance recommended for visual acuity. The distance is appropriate according to every single calculator I can find. If I want to sit closer, I'll pull the couch into the room and sit there. I played through Borderlands 2 from the couch and Far Cry 3 from the seats, either worked well and I have no preference.

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Yeah, but with a rectangular room and the entrance door in the back corner, you're going to have some layout trade-offs. Ideally that door in the middle of the room would be the entrance, and he could centre the seats, pull them off the wall 3 feet, and have a built-in mini bar in the back....

But I think he already said that the middle door goes somewhere else? So I think unless you're completely anal about precise sound positioning, it's a great theatre room!
The middle door is a small storage room with the furnace and water heater. If I've made compromises anywhere, it's sound positioning. I know I'm way below optimal but I honestly don't have the ears for it to bother me. The biggest thing I notice are bass hot spots.
     
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Oct 6, 2014, 11:25 AM
 
Yeah, that's what I referring to - audio-wise the room isn't ideal but like you said, that is only a problem if you really care about it.
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