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No Thread on Obama Around Here? (Page 2)
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Clinically Insane
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Originally Posted by Big Mac 
I said both of these Dems are unelectable. But I prefer people thinking otherwise.
Since you are so assured, why the preference for people thinking otherwise?
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Emotional investment, partisan team sports, the usual sorts of crap...
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Originally Posted by besson3c
Emotional investment, partisan team sports, the usual sorts of crap...
I'm hoping for a different answer, but that's the only rationale I'm capable of coming up with on my own.
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Why do I prefer people thinking otherwise? Because I like seeing overconfidence on the part of the Dems.
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"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." TJ
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Originally Posted by Big Mac
Why do I prefer people thinking otherwise? Because I like seeing overconfidence on the part of the Dems.
I have a preference because I have a preference?
Why the non-answer?
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Huh? I gave you the answer - I think it's good that the Dems are overconfident. I think it's good they think their win in November is inevitable. It will lull them into complacency and cause them even greater shock when they experience defeat. I didn't know I had to spell it out completely.
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Clinically Insane
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Originally Posted by Big Mac
Huh? I gave you the answer - I think it's good that the Dems are overconfident. I think it's good they think their win in November is inevitable. It will lull them into complacency and cause them even greater shock when they experience defeat. I didn't know I had to spell it out completely.
No you didn't. You keep repeating the what. I'm asking why.
Why do you like them to be shocked. As a lesson? They have it coming? You woke up on the wrong side of the bed? Deep philosophical differences? A Democrat ran over your dog?
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Originally Posted by subego
No you didn't. You keep repeating the what. I'm asking why.
Why do you like them to be shocked. As a lesson? They have it coming? You woke up on the wrong side of the bed? Deep philosophical differences? A Democrat ran over your dog?
score one for besson3c, huh? 
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Originally Posted by besson3c
score one for besson3c, huh?
Yes and maybe.
Probably right on the rationale. That's what I think it is at this point, if only because there hasn't been a denial of it.
The value judgement part (that it's "crap"), is dependent on factors that I have yet to suss out.
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Personally, as a fiscal conservative, anti-tax, pro-gun, pro-gay, pro-choice, socially liberal person, I see Obama as an extremely intriguing candidate.
I think that he's an inspiring speaker and that he would be the kind of person I could enjoy representing me and my nation to the world. I can't say that for McCain, though I might align more with him on issues. I definitely can't say that about Hillary.
Nobody has ever accused me of being a "liberal" but as of right now, I think that I am voting for Obama. He has the "intangibles" that I like - youth, charisma, and a general sense of being uplifted. Hope is cheesy to say, but I think it's true. I hope that getting someone new and young in there will help bring the nation back together, rather than a bunch of pointing fingers and yelling. Probably not, but I can "hope."
Besides, he's got the best graphic standards of any campaign I've seen in years! (Graphic design geek!)
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Originally Posted by Big Mac
Why do I prefer people thinking otherwise? Because I like seeing overconfidence on the part of the Dems.
I think the overconfidence while certainly dangerous is quite deserved. I think McCain and the republicans are going to loose big and pay for the crimes of the Bush administration. I am/know many people who voted for Bush, twice, (and now sorry for it) who are supporting Obama because they see McCain as more of the same. They certainly wont Support Hillary but just seeing them support a (D) for the first time in 20 years is incredible.
Also take a look at the turnout in states with Primaries and then look at the 2000 and 2004 primaries.
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Originally Posted by davesimondotcom
Besides, he's got the best graphic standards of any campaign I've seen in years! (Graphic design geek!)
I have to agree with that sentiment! I love Obama's website and abhor Hillary's. There's some truth to the Hillary is a PC, Obama is a Mac joke.
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Originally Posted by davesimondotcom
Besides, he's got the best graphic standards of any campaign I've seen in years! (Graphic design geek!)
He does have a nicely designed site, doesn't he? And it has a platform on it, amazingly enough. It's a pretty well-thought-out platform, too, I might add, after finally reading the whole thing today.
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Yea, this is a quite pleasing shot. Very Kennedy-esque, not to mention.
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Kerrigan: are you an Obama supporter? I've always made you out to be a staunch Republican... Am I wrong?
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I'm a Republican, to be sure, but I have a pretty favorable opinion of Obama as well as his supporters (the ones whom I know).
I've been of voting age since 2000 and 2004, and neither time did I feel that I was given a good choice in candidates. This time around, I feel that either candidate will benefit America, on the whole.
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OBAMA ROBBED IN NY - New York Post
OBAMA ROBBED IN NY
By GINGER ADAMS OTIS
February 16, 2008 -- Barack Obama's primary-night results were strikingly under recorded in several congressional districts around the city - in some cases leaving him with zero votes when, in fact, he had pulled in hundreds, the Board of Elections said today
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Chongo: the NYTimes was reporting that in some districts Clinton wasn't getting any votes either, and that this was probably due to some innocent mistakes and nothing sinister.
The NY Post kind of has the reputation for being a bit of a rag, doesn't it?
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Originally Posted by besson3c
Chongo: the NYTimes was reporting that in some districts Clinton wasn't getting any votes either, and that this was probably due to some innocent mistakes and nothing sinister.
The NY Post kind of has the reputation for being a bit of a rag, doesn't it?
most papers are
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