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Oct 9, 2004, 06:27 PM
 
Flame me if you will, but I've been sitting in on chats, forums, and all types of various discussion -- heck not to mention the stuff on the news, and so far one correlation has been immediate for me:

Republicans, while the minority, are noisier than democrats.

When you see someone practically shouting about "This isn't about the war, this is about John Kerry!" and blah blah blah, you KNOW they're republican, and so far I find that especially in debates, the republicans are the noisiest, most annoying people on said shows.

I mean @#$*(&.

It seems even more obvious on this forum -- take a look at spliff and zimphire, sure they're a pain in the butt but they probably practically RUN this part of the forum, if not guessing this only by the blind zealotry in their posts.

It's weird, isn't it?
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Oct 9, 2004, 07:06 PM
 
"take a look at spliff and zimphire, sure they're a pain in the butt but they probably practically RUN this part of the forum"


Haha... so true.
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Oct 9, 2004, 07:08 PM
 
I'm of the opinion that Simey, Troll, and Logic 'run the show' around here. Granted, I'm good for a handful of one-liners - but you'll notice that I bow-out of serious, meaningful discussions. I like to keep it simple. Religion doesn't interest me - history doesn't interest me - but everything else does.

If I ran the show, I'd still be using my original name 'TNproud2b'*, there would be no political/war (sub)forum, and I'd fire pretty much all the administrative staff except for the moderators.

It's just an act, folks. I'm not Spliffdaddy in real life.

*a screen name that was banned at MacNN after I requested (on my own forum) all distributed computing team members (with 968 computers polling 6 times per minute) to continuously download a .jpg image from somebody's Apple iDisk account - in order to prove there was, indeed, a bandwidth limit imposed by Apple on its iDisk accounts.
     
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Oct 9, 2004, 07:47 PM
 
Democrats say that about Republicans, and Republicans say that about democrats. You can go back and forth as much as you want on this, because in the end you'll still be back at square one.
Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
*a screen name that was banned at MacNN after I requested (on my own forum) all distributed computing team members (with 968 computers polling 6 times per minute) to continuously download a .jpg image from somebody's Apple iDisk account - in order to prove there was, indeed, a bandwidth limit imposed by Apple on its iDisk accounts.
Yeah, that was mine. Heh.
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Oct 9, 2004, 08:04 PM
 
Noisy minority? Not here.
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Oct 9, 2004, 08:19 PM
 
Shades* of Richard Nixon and his so-called "silent majority". A silent majority implies a loud minority; Dems and Repubs take turns with each. No biggie.

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Oct 9, 2004, 09:15 PM
 
Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
*a screen name that was banned at MacNN after I requested (on my own forum) all distributed computing team members (with 968 computers polling 6 times per minute) to continuously download a .jpg image from somebody's Apple iDisk account - in order to prove there was, indeed, a bandwidth limit imposed by Apple on its iDisk accounts.
well, is there a bandwidth limit or is there not?
     
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Oct 9, 2004, 09:59 PM
 
Originally posted by hyteckit:
"take a look at spliff and zimphire, sure they're a pain in the butt but they probably practically RUN this part of the forum"


Haha... so true.
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Oct 9, 2004, 09:59 PM
 
"Topic: Observation: Is it me or are republicans the noisy minority?"

It is you.
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Oct 9, 2004, 10:02 PM
 
Originally posted by hyteckit:
"take a look at spliff and zimphire, sure they're a pain in the butt but they probably practically RUN this part of the forum"


Haha... so true.
Just shows how little you know.

Spliff is alive and well (thank goodness!), but Zimphire hasn't been here in weeks!

He was baninated from the Pol Lounge and I miss him.

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Oct 9, 2004, 10:12 PM
 
Originally posted by aberdeenwriter:
Just shows how little you know.

Spliff is alive and well (thank goodness!), but Zimphire hasn't been here in weeks!

He was baninated from the Pol Lounge and I miss him.

He was??? Zim? Man! I disagreed with him a lot. What got him banned?
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Oct 9, 2004, 10:24 PM
 
Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
I'm of the opinion that Simey, Troll, and Logic 'run the show' around here. Granted, I'm good for a handful of one-liners - but you'll notice that I bow-out of serious, meaningful discussions. I like to keep it simple. Religion doesn't interest me - history doesn't interest me - but everything else does.
IMHO

I'd say ebuddy & Simey are the intellectual 'horses.' Lots of long, well thought out posts on a variety of subjects.

MacNStein & You (Spliff), Spacefreak, RAILhead are all good, strong contributors and you pick your spots and are generally fair but you strongly support the right.

kido is REALLY good but he just pops in & out.

PacHead and Creeping Death are like hockey 'enforcers.'

Cody Dawg is a thoughtful, loyal compassionate conservative.

I know I'm omitting some other strong contributors, but Zimphire was a frequent poster, thoughtful, clever and almost like the 'ring leader.'
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Oct 9, 2004, 10:28 PM
 
Originally posted by MacGorilla:
He was??? Zim? Man! I disagreed with him a lot. What got him banned?
Ask him (he still posts in the main lounge but I never go there)...

Or even better, the mods?
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Oct 9, 2004, 10:41 PM
 
The admin is a militant anti-Christian. Therefore, Zimph gets banned a lot.
     
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Oct 9, 2004, 10:54 PM
 
Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
The admin is a militant anti-Christian. Therefore, Zimph gets banned a lot.
But Zim isn't the only christian. So was it something else? And are you and I risking the same banination because we are even speaking of the subject???
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Oct 9, 2004, 11:13 PM
 
Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
I live on the edge.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Oct 9, 2004, 11:17 PM
 
I've essentially stopped smoking pot, so it's prolly time to retire the Spliffdaddy username, anyway.

PS, you shouldn't follow me out here on the edge unless you have a dynamic IP address.
     
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Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
I've essentially stopped smoking pot, so it's prolly time to retire the Spliffdaddy username, anyway.

PS, you shouldn't follow me out here on the edge unless you have a dynamic IP address.
I essentially stopped a few years ago, although I was never heavy into it. From time to time I wish I had a j, but no big deal.

I don't even know what a dynamic IP address IS! LOL
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Oct 10, 2004, 05:17 AM
 
Originally posted by aberdeenwriter:
Just shows how little you know.

Spliff is alive and well (thank goodness!), but Zimphire hasn't been here in weeks!

He was baninated from the Pol Lounge and I miss him.


No, I just don't bother checking this forum everyday. Haven't been here for weeks. But before Zimphire was baninated from this forum, he is very vocal. That doesn't change that fact.
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Oct 10, 2004, 03:38 PM
 
It's you. Most conservatives are too busy to waste time trying to explain the basics to folks in an online bulletin board. A few of us are intellectual masochists, obviously.
     
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Oct 11, 2004, 09:25 AM
 
Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
<snip>
but you'll notice that I bow-out of serious, meaningful discussions. I like to keep it simple. Religion doesn't interest me - history doesn't interest me - but everything else does.<snip>
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Oct 11, 2004, 10:02 AM
 
Is it just me or do democrats have this habit of posting disgustingly one-sided threads and offering leading questions, not to spur any real thought to a matter, but to paint all with a really broad paint brush and jin up support from their peanut-gallery?

I guess I'm a noisy one by your definition, but I'm okay with that. We need a little noise today.
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Oct 11, 2004, 10:07 AM
 
Actually, it's just that many of us don't feel like wasting our time discussing our opinions with people who won't bother to listen anyway. I don't have anything to prove, no one to impress, so I don't usually bother.

Pretty simple.

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Oct 11, 2004, 11:21 AM
 
Originally posted by RAILhead:
Actually, it's just that many of us don't feel like wasting our time discussing our opinions with people who won't bother to listen anyway. I don't have anything to prove, no one to impress, so I don't usually bother.

Pretty simple.

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Then why come to the Political Forum if you don't want to discuss? I thought that was the whole point? I feel the same way but enjoy hearing the other side and stating my opinions.
     
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Oct 11, 2004, 11:28 AM
 
Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:
Then why come to the Political Forum if you don't want to discuss? I thought that was the whole point? I feel the same way but enjoy hearing the other side and stating my opinions.
The entertainment value.

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Oct 11, 2004, 11:29 AM
 
Originally posted by RAILhead:
The entertainment value.

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I suspect the conservative side plays with the liberals minds' more often than is realized.
     
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Originally posted by RAILhead:
The entertainment value.

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Oct 11, 2004, 12:08 PM
 
On this board, probably a fair assessment.

In the real world, outside this fairly skewed forum where people seem to be one extreme or the other, I would say it's the opposite.

Rarely (except in the case of the wacky anti-abortion crowd) do you see someone who is a conservative marching in the streets, protesting or vandalizing their opponent's campaign headquarters.
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Oct 11, 2004, 12:53 PM
 
Originally posted by MacGorilla:
He was??? Zim? Man! I disagreed with him a lot. What got him banned?
His inability to form a complete sentence? His obsessive and repetative posting habits?
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Originally posted by y0y0:
His inability to form a complete sentence? His obsessive and repetative posting habits?
How did Lerk get brought into this subject?

Originally posted by davesimondotcom:

Rarely (except in the case of the wacky anti-abortion crowd) do you see someone who is a conservative marching in the streets, protesting or vandalizing their opponent's campaign headquarters.
That is a correct assessment. Conservative protesters are a novelty to the press because it is such a rare occurrence. As a result they tend to get more press in the short run because its deemed as a worthy news story. Look at Protest Warriors, they are a pretty small group compared to their same aged peers who protest on the other side but such a big deal was made about them.
Our society has tuned out the liberal out bursts because it�s such a common occurrence.
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Originally posted by Captain Obvious:
How did Lerk get brought into this subject?
"Everything's so clear to me now: I'm the keeper of the cheese and you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it.
That's why he's gonna kill us. So we got to beat it. Yeah. Before he let's loose the marmosets on us."
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Oct 11, 2004, 01:11 PM
 
Originally posted by RAILhead:
Actually, it's just that many of us don't feel like wasting our time discussing our opinions with people who won't bother to listen anyway. I don't have anything to prove, no one to impress, so I don't usually bother.

Pretty simple.

Maury
And here again, I think this hits the core of the problem: Those who get upset that others don't share their ideas. Probably, we're all guilty of this, be it from the left or the right, I don't think it makes that much difference.

There's a big irony in this, because, if you're honest with yourself, who would come here and post if it was one big love-in and back slapping session? That would be incredibly boring, despite the fact that almost everyone gets upset at the fact that their intended audience, i.e. the other side, almost never really reads the posts they make.

I know that some people really do attempt to make thought provoking posts from time to time. I know I do and I know that Simey does, for instance, but a large amount of posters from both sides simply tend to treat this board as a textual shouting match, where you lose or win points based on their ability to deliver simple one liners and comebacks, regardless of whether the posting was logical or to the point or not. For instance one way of "losing points", as seen by some here, is a loss of face, i.e. admitting some kind of weakness or being exposed as having such.

I suppose one could think of it as a kind of text based King Of The Hill or Capture The Flag match.

Perhaps MacNN should simply contact the makers of Unreal Tournament to sponsor pol lounge tournaments? And I know, just by saying that, that some of our one liner friends will be considering making comments about how the other side won't have a chance, has lost before even starting etc.
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Oct 11, 2004, 01:21 PM
 
Originally posted by y0y0:
And here again, I think this hits the core of the problem: Those who get upset that others don't share their ideas. Probably, we're all guilty of this, be it from the left or the right, I don't think it makes that much difference...
The issue with online forums is that they are a lousy means of debate. Further, people here are FAR more polarized than one sees in Real Everyday Life�. Due to this polarity, we have the usual "you're an idiot and just don't get it" comments and the "I'm right and you're wrong and you're too close-minded to know it" thinking. Thus, all "debates" simply spiral down into name-calling, posturing, gritch-fests.

I make loads of legit posts regarding my opinions and thoughts, but I don't often continue when the "kids" come out of the wood work -- not to debate, but to simply argue for the sake of arguing. This gets tiresome, boring, and old very fast. That's usually when I post a pic, too.

That's all I'm saying now because I have to go take a leak before my teeth start floating...

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Oct 11, 2004, 01:28 PM
 
It's one thing to SIDE with Democrats... it's another to VOTE for Democrats.

I can't wait to find out how many 18 - 30 year olds registered this year and didn't vote. I bet it's sickening.
     
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Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
It's one thing to SIDE with Democrats... it's another to VOTE for Democrats.

I can't wait to find out how many 18 - 30 year olds registered this year and didn't vote. I bet it's sickening.
I will hazard a guess and say that the minority of registers will even remember that it is election day...
     
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Originally posted by djohnson:
I will hazard a guess and say that the minority of registers will even remember that it is election day...
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Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
But they got to see a free concert - courtesy of MTV.
LOL

free concert or voting... hmmm.... free concert anyone?
     
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Zim doesn't run this forum.

Zim's fanboy's just can't stop talking about him long enough it just seems that way.

Take this thread for example. I wasn't a part of it till now.

And look how many fanboys are going on about me.



I haven't posted in here in over a month, and I was still "running" this forum.

Interesting and pathetic at the same time.

     
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Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
It's one thing to SIDE with Democrats... it's another to VOTE for Democrats.

I can't wait to find out how many 18 - 30 year olds registered this year and didn't vote. I bet it's sickening.
Yes, especially those I'd describe as 'misguided' millionaires.

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"If history holds, the 28-14 result portends a victory for Kerry tomorrow because the result of the Redskins' final home game before the presidential election has always accurately predicted the White House winner. If the Redskins win, the incumbent party wins. If they lose, the incumbent party is ousted.

"Oh, yeah, he's going to win. It's guaranteed," said Packers safety Darren Sharper, a Kerry supporter. "I don't have to vote now. Don't even have to go to the polls. Saved me a trip."

I am saddened by this attitude.
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Nov 1, 2004, 04:12 PM
 
Originally posted by djohnson:
LOL

free concert or voting... hmmm.... free concert anyone?


yes, especially if it's good music
strange and funny to come across this point thread now, was away then.
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Nov 1, 2004, 04:13 PM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
Zim doesn't run this forum.

Zim's fanboy's just can't stop talking about him long enough it just seems that way.

Take this thread for example. I wasn't a part of it till now.

And look how many fanboys are going on about me.



I haven't posted in here in over a month, and I was still "running" this forum.

Interesting and pathetic at the same time.

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Originally posted by Zimphire:
Zim doesn't run this forum.

Zim's fanboy's just can't stop talking about him long enough it just seems that way.

Take this thread for example. I wasn't a part of it till now.

And look how many fanboys are going on about me.



I haven't posted in here in over a month, and I was still "running" this forum.

Interesting and pathetic at the same time.

     
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Originally posted by deedar:
Yes, they are noisy. AND they bite.
Well, the lefties kick, so I guess it's even.

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Originally posted by Bluesky:
Uh, yeah. I like myself. You should like yourself too!

Otherwise one would say you are insecure.

     
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Nov 1, 2004, 06:06 PM
 
Originally posted by MacNStein:
WB Z-man.
Heya.

I doubt I will be in here much BTW. The silliness I see has just gotten worse in the last month. That and the smell..


But then again, desperation never smelled good.
     
 
 
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