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Turias · May 25, 2004, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by gbafan:
I can throw down hosting, for free. Let me know.

I've got a pretty good host, for now. 1.6GB space and 40GB bandwidth per month. I'm currently using about 1/2 of that. How does that compare with yours?

redJag · May 25, 2004, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by Turias:
I've got a pretty good host, for now. 1.6GB space and 40GB bandwidth per month. I'm currently using about 1/2 of that. How does that compare with yours?

I think his emphasis was on the free part. I could also host it for free. Mine is only 500MB of space and 5GB per month of traffic, but should be plenty for the site.

Adam Betts · May 25, 2004, 07:01 PM

This game is just amazing, man! I started playing at 11am and found myself still playing at 6pm. Luckily, there's no important stuffs to do today *whew*

This game:

redJag · May 25, 2004, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by Adam Betts:
This game is just amazing, man! I started playing at 11am and found myself still playing at 6pm. Luckily, there's no important stuffs to do today *whew*

This game:

well geez, take a time out to put your info on the character thread!

::maroma:: · May 25, 2004, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by Turias:
Sadly, I'm going to be on vacation starting on Friday for about a week. So, I think it might be better to quicken the pace a little with the tabards. How about everyone posts their design ideas by Wednesday? The vote could then start on Thursday, and on Friday, we buy the tabard.

Does that work for everyone?

P.S. Van Cleef finally felt the sharpness of my blade, and I have his head to prove it! That bastard...

Works for me.

And Van Cleef can kiss my big white arse. It felt so good to finally defeat him this push!

Arkham_c · May 26, 2004, 12:11 AM

So after 1 day in the beta I'm really enjoying the game (Krasher is a level 8 dwarf warrior now), but I still get my ass handed to me regularly, and I have to walk a zillion miles back to my corpse.

What's the solution? Am I just fighting out of my league? I do fine against most things one on one, but when 2 or three attack me I'm always toast.

OwlBoy · May 26, 2004, 01:01 AM

Originally posted by Arkham_c:
So after 1 day in the beta I'm really enjoying the game (Krasher is a level 8 dwarf warrior now), but I still get my ass handed to me regularly, and I have to walk a zillion miles back to my corpse.

What's the solution? Am I just fighting out of my league? I do fine against most things one on one, but when 2 or three attack me I'm always toast.

Solution: Group, or don't fight things that are at your level or a bit higher, buz if they swarm, you are a gonner.

Grouping is fun.

-Owl

::maroma:: · May 26, 2004, 01:03 AM

Originally posted by Arkham_c:
So after 1 day in the beta I'm really enjoying the game (Krasher is a level 8 dwarf warrior now), but I still get my ass handed to me regularly, and I have to walk a zillion miles back to my corpse.

What's the solution? Am I just fighting out of my league? I do fine against most things one on one, but when 2 or three attack me I'm always toast.

I think its a bit harder to solo at early levels. But as you get higher in level, you get more skills and more weapons against the mobs which allow you to solo more easily. Grouping is almost always a better way to do quests. But I find myself dying a lot less as my level gets higher.

Turias · May 26, 2004, 01:50 AM

Alright, I have registered dogcows.net. The nameservers should pick it up within 24 hours. At that point, I can stick up a rudimentary site and forums!

-Q- · May 26, 2004, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by Turias:
Alright, I have registered dogcows.net. The nameservers should pick it up within 24 hours. At that point, I can stick up a rudimentary site and forums!

Very cool! If we need/want any flash work done, let me know.

Turias · May 26, 2004, 01:42 PM

Ok, here's my tabard design:

It's similar to one posted by mrPotatoHead. I was going for a B&W motif to match the G3s.

So, if any of you have any other ideas, post them here by the end of the day. Voting starts tomorrow.

phillryu · May 26, 2004, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by Turias:
Alright, I have registered dogcows.net. The nameservers should pick it up within 24 hours. At that point, I can stick up a rudimentary site and forums!

Ooh! Adam Betts and I want to make the webpage sometime this summer we think. Probably movabletype based. Would that be possible?

Turias · May 26, 2004, 02:06 PM

I would love some help in the site design department! I'm not sure about the Movable Type idea, though, what with it going commercial and not being ideal for multiple contributors and all. I was hoping for a very dynamic and very community-driven guild site where any guild member could post stories and what-not.

I'll post my current idea, but I am definitely open to suggestions and other options. Please let me know what you think.

The backbone of the site will be based on Geeklog, a CMS built from the ground up with security as a primary focus (Groklaw, for example, runs on Geeklog). I have a lot of experience with Geeklog and CMSs, and it is a top-notch Content Management System. Think of it as a slimmed-down phpNuke without the blatant security holes. And if you are worried about the interface, let me assure you that Geeklog is very easily skinned.

On that site I was going to enable an integrated forum and a place to upload files (like interface mods). I was also going to setup a number of story sections, some being guild-only. One could be designed for performance tweaks like the one posted earlier in this thread. I thought it would be important for anyone in the guild to be able to submit stories to the site.

I was also going to enable a plugin where any member can setup his or her own page. On this page, the member can post their character information, equipment, tradeskills, and anything else that would be of interest to the rest of the guild.

I've also tossed around the idea of writing some custom plugins for the site.

Once the nameservers start picking up dogcows.net, I will throw together a quick Geeklog site so that you and Adam can play with it and tell me what you think.

Also, please know that my heart isn't completely set on doing things this way. As this is a community guild full of intelligent people I definitely want all parts of it to be community-driven. I am open to discussion and suggestions on what would be the best way to run this site.

gbafan · May 26, 2004, 05:29 PM

The current version of MT (2.661) is very stable, free, and supports unlimited authors so I don't see that as a problem.

One of the reasons why I'm a huge MT fan is not because of the tool itself, which works, but because of it's belief in standards support. phpNuke and Geeklog are both heavily table/tr/td driven which is just so 1990 and 3 column default design which is WAY overused, drives me nutz

Anyway, doesn't really matter to me. Even though I'm a programmer, designer, back-end developer, etc. I really don't have the bandwidth to help design this thing but I'll surely contribute if called upon.

As for the host, yes, I was just offering some for free. Not much space like 100MB and 5GB transfer. It's the thought that counts

Cheers!

Turias · May 26, 2004, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by gbafan:
One of the reasons why I'm a huge MT fan is not because of the tool itself, which works, but because of it's belief in standards support. phpNuke and Geeklog are both heavily table/tr/td driven which is just so 1990 and 3 column default design which is WAY overused, drives me nutz

As far as tables/CSS is concerned, it mainly depends on the theme you use. For example, the themes found at Axonz are completely CSS. And 3-columns may be the default, but it is quite easy to go 2 columns.

Originally posted by gbafan:
As for the host, yes, I was just offering some for free. Not much space like 100MB and 5GB transfer. It's the thought that counts

Cheers!

I appreciate the offer.

And I am willing to go with MT if people think that is what would serve our guild best. Is there any way you or someone else could put up a simple site to show me what exactly you're thinking and how it would compare to Geeklog? I should have the GL sample up by tomorrow.

gbafan · May 26, 2004, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by Turias:
And I am willing to go with MT if people think that is what would serve our guild best. Is there any way you or someone else could put up a simple site to show me what exactly you're thinking and how it would compare to Geeklog? I should have the GL sample up by tomorrow.

I'll see what I can do tonight. I have an MT instance that runs my personal blog so it shouldn't be to hard to throw up a WoW based one. I was going to do that anyway to journal my WoW experience but alas the time demaon got me

phillryu · May 26, 2004, 07:56 PM

Well, you could check out MacThemes, which is movabletype driven (Adam did the design.) Also, Adam Betts's own site: http://www.artofadambetts.com/ is a good example.

Turias · May 26, 2004, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by phillryu:
Well, you could check out MacThemes, which is movabletype driven (Adam did the design.) Also, Adam Betts's own site: http://www.artofadambetts.com/ is a good example.

Right, I know what MT sites look like. I agree that it is an excellent piece of software that does what it is meant to do extremely well. I'm just not so sure that it is the right choice for the guild site. I'll be able to explain it better once I get the demo site up and running.

Also, the free version of MT states the following as a restriction:
No more than one author and three weblogs

I guess we could probably use an old version, but do we want to commit the site to that one version of MT and never be able to upgrade it?

Just something to consider.

Turias · May 26, 2004, 08:31 PM

Let's just try to keep an open mind. I know there are some huge advocates of MT on this board, but I just want to make sure we choose the right tool for the task, whether that be MT, GL, or something else.

MaxPower · May 27, 2004, 12:09 AM

Ok here are my two votes. I dig the tigers since that is the code name of the successor to Panther. Obligatory Safari tabard as well!

I dig the bondi-ish blue, but there are so many cool colors to choose from, I'd be happy with all except pink or purple.

Bondi Tiger

Bondi Safari

Also here are two funny things I noticed:

Gnomes love the ladies!

Nice top, Jordan Croft!

Turnpike · May 27, 2004, 12:13 AM

Why not just code your own CMS? they aren't that hard, and you can make sure they do exactly what you want. As an added plus, if you use Smarty or something similar you can make a very simple skinning interface via templates, if you want to have multiple site skins.

Best of all you can code them to standards and you wouldn't have to worry about somebody else's license. Plus, whoever codes it has one more thing to put in their resume/portfolio

OwlBoy · May 27, 2004, 01:45 AM

wow, you get 72 FPS?

And i thought 25 was good for me...

Damn.

I soooo want a G5...

-Owl

::maroma:: · May 27, 2004, 02:28 AM

Here's my entry. Just making the deadline.

And I noticed this last night when I was in the Monestary. The body is a little twisted, but I assure you its a woman's body. I think she needs a shave!

Turias · 08:23 AM

Alright, let's start voting! Vote for your favorite 3. If you posted more than one entry, you can only vote for yourself once.

Here are my votes:

1.

2.

3.

Since I am going to be gone all next week, let's try to get the voting done before tomorrow. Then, if you guys can get 9 gold into my hand tonight, I'll buy the tabard first thing in the morning before my flight takes off.

Turias · May 27, 2004, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by ::maroma:::
And I noticed this last night when I was in the Monestary. The body is a little twisted, but I assure you its a woman's body. I think she needs a shave!

Heheh, have you seen the gryphon handler in the Redridge Mountains? Definitely a woman, but with the sunglasses and full-out beard...

Cipher13 · May 27, 2004, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by Turias:
Heheh, have you seen the gryphon handler in the Redridge Mountains? Definitely a woman, but with the sunglasses and full-out beard...

(S)he scares me

(hung out there all today... level 14 rogue vs. level 22+ beasts and orcs = hard)

Turias · May 27, 2004, 11:30 AM

Ok, the sample site is thrown together.

http://www.dogcows.net/

Sign up for an account and let me know what you think.

And vote on those tabards!

gbafan · May 27, 2004, 11:40 AM

I vote #2.

I like the Apple gray

gbafan · May 27, 2004, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by MaxPower:

gxWindow
--> Usage: gxwindow <0-1>
gxrestart
Description: Toggles windowed mode on/off.

Been trying to get this to work on my 12" PB but no luck. Anyone have any ideas?

Turias · May 27, 2004, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by gbafan:
I vote #2.

I like the Apple gray

No, those were just my top 3 choices. You should look through the tabards in this thread and vote for your own top 3.

MaxPower · May 27, 2004, 11:59 AM

1 (ooh! very g5 brushed aluminum like)

2

3

MaxPower · May 27, 2004, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by gbafan:
Been trying to get this to work on my 12" PB but no luck. Anyone have any ideas?

Hmm. It works for me! Although Ranvier clued me into an easier way: Apple + M

-Q- · May 27, 2004, 05:01 PM

Here are my votes:

1.

2.

3.

I do like that 'G5 Grey'.

-Q- · May 27, 2004, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by Turias:
Ok, the sample site is thrown together.

http://www.dogcows.net/

Sign up for an account and let me know what you think.

And vote on those tabards!

Registered.

And I'll have to play with it this evening to get an idea of how much I like it. Work is driving me crazy right now!

gbafan · May 27, 2004, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by Turias:
No, those were just my top 3 choices. You should look through the tabards in this thread and vote for your own top 3.

Ah I see. Well, I still vote for Apple Gray

::maroma:: · May 27, 2004, 05:26 PM

My votes:

1)

2)

3)

I can also buy the tabard design if we don't get the cash to Turias in time (at least I think I can buy it). And I can also front the cash if need be. Just let me know!

gbafan · May 27, 2004, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by ::maroma:::
I can also buy the tabard design if we don't get the cash to Turias in time (at least I think I can buy it). And I can also front the cash if need be. Just let me know!

How much cash do I need to come up with exactly so I can get the tabard for myself as well as help pay the 10g for the design.

Thanks!

Turias · May 27, 2004, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by gbafan:
How much cash do I need to come up with exactly so I can get the tabard for myself as well as help pay the 10g for the design.

Thanks!

You need 1g to buy your own tabard. I think the recommended contribution for the design is 60-80s.

phillryu · May 27, 2004, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by Turias:
Right, I know what MT sites look like. I agree that it is an excellent piece of software that does what it is meant to do extremely well. I'm just not so sure that it is the right choice for the guild site. I'll be able to explain it better once I get the demo site up and running.

Also, the free version of MT states the following as a restriction:
No more than one author and three weblogs

I guess we could probably use an old version, but do we want to commit the site to that one version of MT and never be able to upgrade it?

Just something to consider.

I agree. Movabletype is really great, but I definitely feel a bit gipped with the new license costs... I'll probably end up paying for it though because moving to a new engine would probably be worth more than that in my time. Grr

Xidius · May 30, 2004, 02:28 AM

Hmmm... I wasn't accepted either. Sooo.. I emailed my good friend at Blizzard, and asked him to get me in. And here is the result. =)

And here's a picture from ~6 hours after I got it. =)

http://homepage.mac.com/xidius/temp/wow2.jpg

Awesome, addicting game. =D I play it on my new 17" 1.5Ghz 128mb ati Powerbook, with ~70-80 fps consistently, with my lowest being ~30-40 fps in the undercity. =\

Just wish it natively supported wide screen resolutions~!

- Xidius

The Placid Casual · May 30, 2004, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by Xidius:
Hmmm... I wasn't accepted either. Sooo.. I emailed my good friend at Blizzard, and asked him to get me in. And here is the result. =)

And here's a picture from ~6 hours after I got it. =)

http://homepage.mac.com/xidius/temp/wow2.jpg

Awesome, addicting game. =D I play it on my new 17" 1.5Ghz 128mb ati Powerbook, with ~70-80 fps consistently, with my lowest being ~30-40 fps in the undercity. =\

Just wish it natively supported wide screen resolutions~!

- Xidius

Congrats! It is times like this that make me wish I had a good friend at Blizzard! I didn't get in, and am dying a death with every new screen shot posted!

Thing is,I do software tesing for a living too!!

phillryu · May 30, 2004, 10:13 AM

I have the weirdest feeling that all of us here were invited by our mutual friend at MacNN...

Cipher13 · May 30, 2004, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by phillryu:
I have the weirdest feeling that all of us here were invited by our mutual friend at MacNN...

I'd bet on it

Three cheers!

redJag · May 30, 2004, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by Xidius:
Awesome, addicting game. =D I play it on my new 17" 1.5Ghz 128mb ati Powerbook, with ~70-80 fps consistently, with my lowest being ~30-40 fps in the undercity. =\

How much RAM do you have? I have the same computer and would say my average is 40FPS.

OwlBoy · May 30, 2004, 01:31 PM

Man i really need a new computer, my Highest FPS is around 25.

But I'm still loving it!

-Owl

The Placid Casual · 06:47 PM

...

cSurfr · May 31, 2004, 10:47 PM

well, i must say that not being able to play this weekend sucked. My wife and I moved all of our stuff to our new house, and I'm still waiting for verizon to get my DSL up and running. If it's not done by wednesday i'll be switching over to comcast. See you all again soon. . .I hope.

neoTony · Jun 1, 2004, 12:36 AM

*sigh* Lucky bastards... I was looking for a way to properly utilise my new 17" PB... Helps to have friends in high places, no?

videian28 · Jun 1, 2004, 09:46 AM

If anyone would like to refer me to gte invited to beta feel free to PM me

I will love you forever

Yose · Jun 1, 2004, 10:09 AM

How long is the beta expected to run before the retail release comes about? This reminds me too much of what Mudding should have been for all those years. *drool*.