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Mar 8, 2012, 10:39 AM
 
Who's loving the new iOS? Any haters out there?

My three favorite features:

Easy access to the camera from the lock screen.

Safari bookmarks no longer pop up every frickin time you open a new browsing session.

Japanese Siri: You can't believe it! (my wifey says the Japanese is chotto baka, but it's just day one....)


What I don't get:

AT&T now shows coverage as 4G.

Tethering seems to be doing something on its own - the icon is spinning and spinning, but no off switch, nothing... hmmm.
( Last edited by osiris; Mar 8, 2012 at 12:47 PM. )
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Mar 8, 2012, 11:11 AM
 
camera access from the lock screen was available in 5.0 as well.

like the safari bookmark fix.

i'm still checking all the numbers in the battery display to see if all those have been fixed or not. i can't believe that has lasted this long.
     
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Mar 8, 2012, 11:13 AM
 
Originally Posted by residentEvil View Post
camera access from the lock screen was available in 5.0 as well.
Only when double-pressing the home button.

It's always there now, available by dragging upwards.
     
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Mar 8, 2012, 11:17 AM
 
Originally Posted by residentEvil View Post
i'm still checking all the numbers in the battery display to see if all those have been fixed or not. i can't believe that has lasted this long.
It appears to be more accurate - I matched it against a couple of battery apps, it now looks dead on.
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Mar 8, 2012, 11:26 AM
 
Originally Posted by osiris View Post
It appears to be more accurate - I matched it against a couple of battery apps, it now looks dead on.
i'm talking about the font issue; with some numbers being in bold. there is a thread about it here.

edit: here it is http://forums.macnn.com/103/ipod-iph...os-5-screw-up/
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Mar 8, 2012, 11:28 AM
 
Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
Only when double-pressing the home button.

It's always there now, available by dragging upwards.
single press of home, then single press of the camera icon was what i was using in 5.0. no double tapping?

edit: point is, 5.0 introduced camera from the lock screen. just how to activate the camera changed.
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Mar 8, 2012, 11:53 AM
 
Originally Posted by residentEvil View Post
i'm talking about the font issue; with some numbers being in bold. there is a thread about it here.

edit: here it is http://forums.macnn.com/103/ipod-iph...os-5-screw-up/
I almost forgot about that... I have to wait until I recharge.
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Mar 8, 2012, 12:10 PM
 
Originally Posted by residentEvil View Post
i'm talking about the font issue; with some numbers being in bold. there is a thread about it here.

edit: here it is http://forums.macnn.com/103/ipod-iph...os-5-screw-up/
Still broken.

http://forums.macnn.com/103/ipod-iph.../460277/still/
     
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Mar 8, 2012, 12:11 PM
 
Originally Posted by residentEvil View Post
single press of home, then single press of the camera icon was what i was using in 5.0. no double tapping?
I believe that's a double-press.

Originally Posted by residentEvil View Post
edit: point is, 5.0 introduced camera from the lock screen. just how to activate the camera changed.
Yes: They just made the functionality obvious and discoverable, now.
     
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Mar 8, 2012, 12:12 PM
 
Hmmph. This just popped up on my iPad. I wonder if it will let me sync if I install it. :/
     
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Mar 8, 2012, 12:13 PM
 
In regards to the 4G on AT&T, this Macworld article does a good job of explaining it.

The tl;dr version is that the "definition" of 4G has been expanded to include the type of network AT&T (HSPA+) rolled out recently. The key part from Macworld:
Again, though, your iPhone 4S isn’t any faster than it was last week; this label change falls somewhere between semantics and marketing.
     
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Mar 8, 2012, 12:20 PM
 
Somewhere between semantics and marketing rest the flat-out lies.
     
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Mar 8, 2012, 12:26 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Somewhere between semantics and marketing rest the flat-out lies.
Add "statistics" and you get the ability to triangulate your deception as a marketer.
     
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Mar 8, 2012, 12:58 PM
 
Bending over for AT&T to redefine their 7Mbps HSDPA service as 4G is a joke.

21Mbps HSPA+ is plausibly 4G, since ITU caved on the 100Mbps requirement to let LTE/WiMax be 4G.
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Mar 8, 2012, 01:53 PM
 
Originally Posted by mduell View Post
Bending over for AT&T to redefine their 7Mbps HSDPA service as 4G is a joke.

21Mbps HSPA+ is plausibly 4G, since ITU caved on the 100Mbps requirement to let LTE/WiMax be 4G.
yep, I had ATT 3g since the iPhone 4S, I hit 7+Mbps consistently for a few months after that.
Then it began to suck - it's been 2Mbps or less since, and upload is an appalling .08 Mbps. what the heck happened?
lol 4G.
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Mar 8, 2012, 02:14 PM
 
What is the size of the iOS 5.1 update.?
     
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Mar 8, 2012, 02:16 PM
 
Originally Posted by angelmb View Post
What is the size of the iOS 5.1 update.?
If I recall, 189MBs
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Mar 8, 2012, 02:22 PM
 
Only a 12 minute download at 4G speeds!
     
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Mar 8, 2012, 02:23 PM
 
@ osiris, an answer in two minutes, that's got to be a macnn record. Much appreciated !!
     
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Mar 8, 2012, 02:34 PM
 
Originally Posted by angelmb View Post
@ osiris, an answer in two minutes, that's got to be a macnn record. Much appreciated !!
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Mar 8, 2012, 04:30 PM
 
Originally Posted by mduell View Post
Bending over for AT&T to redefine their 7Mbps HSDPA service as 4G is a joke.

21Mbps HSPA+ is plausibly 4G, since ITU caved on the 100Mbps requirement to let LTE/WiMax be 4G.
Originally Posted by osiris View Post
yep, I had ATT 3g since the iPhone 4S, I hit 7+Mbps consistently for a few months after that.
Then it began to suck - it's been 2Mbps or less since, and upload is an appalling .08 Mbps. what the heck happened?
lol 4G.
I'm with Verizon. I'm usually on wifi. Culver's was hitting 15Mbps up and down as measured on the speedtest.net app.
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Mar 8, 2012, 04:46 PM
 
A quick look at the test history shows in good sots I get 2Mbps down and 1.5Mbps up on 3G.
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Mar 8, 2012, 05:01 PM
 
I'm practically glued to the seat with these 4G speeds...

     
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Mar 8, 2012, 05:27 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
I'm practically glued to the seat with these 4G speeds...
One picture says it all: many thanks for posting that test!

Notice the 5 bars of reception? That's ATT 4G speed...

A totally deceptive lie that Apple cooked up with ATT.
     
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Mar 8, 2012, 05:37 PM
 
Siri in the UK is still only partially functional. I had hoped that the additional functions which only work in the US and in US english would be working now (maps, nearest restaurants, etc.). I guess this is a change they can make at the server end. I thought that it was due in early 2012. Some time before July then?
     
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Mar 8, 2012, 06:20 PM
 
Originally Posted by angelmb View Post
What is the size of the iOS 5.1 update.?
Originally Posted by osiris View Post
If I recall, 189MBs
Yea, it was around 189mb on my wife's Verizon 4S, and about 10mb less on my AT&T 4.

Is anyone else excited about the new 50mb limit for nonwifi app and content downloads?
AT&T iPhone 5S and 6; 13" MBP; MDD G4.
     
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Mar 8, 2012, 06:48 PM
 
I've been trying throughout the day to DL 5.1, but the servers must be down/swamped.
     
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Mar 8, 2012, 07:11 PM
 
Yes, the 4G designation is a joke. I'm appalled. Verizon is probably lobbying them right now to apply 4G to EVDO.
     
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Mar 8, 2012, 07:38 PM
 
Originally Posted by Cold Warrior View Post
Yes, the 4G designation is a joke. I'm appalled. Verizon is probably lobbying them right now to apply 4G to EVDO.
Ha! Verizon will probably want to call it 5G!
     
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Mar 8, 2012, 09:29 PM
 
Originally Posted by angelmb View Post
What is the size of the iOS 5.1 update.?
Originally Posted by osiris View Post
If I recall, 189MBs
803MB is what iTunes is downloading for my VZW 4S
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Mar 8, 2012, 10:12 PM
 
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803MB is what iTunes is downloading for my VZW 4S
I did the software update directly on the phone, not sure why the size would be so different.
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Mar 8, 2012, 10:20 PM
 
I suspect iTunes will download the full version in order to keep it for full restores. An iOS device will download just the delta.
     
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Mar 8, 2012, 10:35 PM
 
The update screen on the phone showed 189MB as well.
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Mar 8, 2012, 11:11 PM
 
I am seeing the 803MB download size in iTunes for my Sprint 4s as well...
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