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The 1st Amendment under fire again
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Cancer patient defends ObamaCare criticism after Dem goes after ad | Fox News
Excuse me?
Did i read that correctly?
Since when does a House congressman have the authority to dictate advertising content? Since when does he speak for the FCC?!? "Prove your ad or we'll yank your license."? Aw man, the situation in this country continues to deteriorate.
This is extremely disturbing and a blatant attack on freedom of speech. Alongside the now shot-down plan to put the G-man in every newsroom, how much more of these obvious attempts to suppress free speech are we as a people going to tolerate?
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"If you don't stop I'm going to call the cops and they'll arrest you."
Am I speaking for the cops?
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Originally Posted by subego
"If you don't stop I'm going to call the cops and they'll arrest you."
Am I speaking for the cops?
No you're speaking as an idiot (not you personally, Subego, your hypothetical speaker). I'd like to think we hold our elected officials to a slightly higher standard. Was he speaking as a private individual or from the Office of his elected position? The latter constitutes at the least an abuse of the office and at worst a civil rights violation (one that this DOJ would gladly decline to prosecute.
Also, your example implies the possibility of criminal conduct - a better analogy would be "If you don't shut up or change your message I'm going to call the cops and have you arrested" where the speaker presumes to have that authority and the message irritates the speaker for whatever reason (it doesn't matter).
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This is in the context of him running for office, which you do as a private individual. Likewise, I imagine he's not employing federal attorneys for his campaign shenannigans.
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The Obama Admin is very thin skinned when it comes to the enormous issues/problems with ACA.
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Originally Posted by subego
This is in the context of him running for office, which you do as a private individual. Likewise, I imagine he's not employing federal attorneys for his campaign shenannigans.
All the more reason to be vigorously opposed to such rhetoric. Dude hasn't even won the election yet and he's threatening to use the FCC as his personal enforcer of campaign content?
Doesn't this disturb you in the least bit, Subego?
What if he backs up his threat? Would that get your attention?
What other agencies will he use to quash criticism of his policies? Whether or not he has the oomph to back it up is irrelevant, the threat alone is corruption in my book.
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Here's the situation as I understand it.
AFAICT the issue isn't he's being criticized, it's that the claims are factually inaccurate.
That's slander. In my book, being slandered justifies releasing the hounds. Since it's a political ad, it has FCC purview. That's just another hound in the kennel.
Do I have a problem with congressman wosshismame threatening to sic the FCC on media outlets which take money to broadcast slander? No. I have a problem with the slander, and those who promulgate it for money.
If it's not slander, then I'm mad at the guy.
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Originally Posted by subego
Here's the situation as I understand it.
AFAICT the issue isn't he's being criticized, it's that the claims are factually inaccurate.
That's slander. In my book, being slandered justifies releasing the hounds. Since it's a political ad, it has FCC purview. That's just another hound in the kennel.
Do I have a problem with congressman wosshismame threatening to sic the FCC on media outlets which take money to broadcast slander? No. I have a problem with the slander, and those who promulgate it for money.
If it's not slander, then I'm mad at the guy.
Does the congressman not have the onus of proving it incorrect?
It's presented as"there wasn't enough proof" not that they found evidence that calls into question the validity of the claims with factual records.
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I shall look into it deeper. RL intrudes at the moment.
Your scenario is definitely more problematic than mine.
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Originally Posted by subego
I shall look into it deeper. RL intrudes at the moment.
Your scenario is definitely more problematic than mine.
Yes, from what I gathered they looked at what she should have been charged based on their knowledge of the law, but are making the threats without any specific evidence refuting the claims (just what they assume her costs to be based on their knowledge of the situation).
In my world that isn't enough. Perhaps a great reason for further research, but not enough in it of itself.
Otherwise, I'm with ya.
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I'm far less concerned what some PACs are doing with donor funds than I am an Administration and lapdogs in Washington who repeatedly use the taxpayer funded bully-pulpits for false advertising, extortion, and slander.
I'm now officially opposed to any new Government regulation upon or oversight of the free people of the United States until I can see demonstrable progress on the oversight of and regulations upon the actions of this Administration and of government as a whole. As long as there are none, AFAIC -- we need the balance afforded by the actions of a free people. By any means necessary.
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