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baw
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Mar 20, 2006, 09:07 AM
 
I'm attempting to locate optimized BOINC clients for my computers, but there is just not a central location with information regarding optimized clients. I need some help.

If I list my computers and projects I'm running could someone point me in the right direction?

Current projects I have running on all 3 computers are Rosetta, Einstein and SETI.

Computer Specs:

Mac Mini G4 1.42GHz
Pentium 4 (Hyper-Threading) 2.80 GHz
AMD Athlon XP 2800+ 2.1GHz
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baw  (op)
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Mar 20, 2006, 09:16 AM
 
If I use optimized clients should I use an optimized BOINC app as well?

Bah, I'm confused.
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beadman
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Mar 20, 2006, 07:28 PM
 
Here is the URL for the Mac Version of BOINC. I'd suggest the Superbench versions; I know it works well with Einstein and Seti, but don't know about the other.
http://members.dslextreme.com/~reade...boincbeta.html

Here is the URL for the Mac Version of the SETI client:
http://writhe.org.uk/[email protected]/

The Mac Version of Einstein is already optimized.

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Mar 22, 2006, 11:36 AM
 
Hi everybody.
I've got a question : "Can you develop an OS X version of BOINC which can have these CPU benchmarks : http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/sh...?hostid=178583 ???
     
Todd Madson
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Mar 22, 2006, 05:01 PM
 
Fotz:

I believe those CPU benchmarks are HIGHLY inflated.

And what's with the utterly ABSURD average upload rate? (2.31109375E+264 KB/sec)

-29 results a day? Weak results I think.

Mind you I'm running Seti and not folding but almost 2900 RAC?

-No way is that chip that powerful as claimed.
-I wonder what optimized client he's running.
-Running as anonymous. Hmm....

-I have an AMD Athlon XP 2400+ machine overclocked 2.2 ghz and it's not
anywhere near that level of floating point or integer speed.

-I'd love to get specs like that from that box but we're talking integer and
floating point in the single thousands digits (I'd check but seti is having
their usual wednesday afternoon maintenance).

-The highest FP and integer speed I get is on my G5 DP 2.5, period of all
the machines in my farm and even then they don't get that high. I think
FP in the 6000 range and integer in the 23000 range.
     
sdubz
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Mar 22, 2006, 09:40 PM
 
Originally Posted by baw
I'm attempting to locate optimized BOINC clients for my computers, but there is just not a central location with information regarding optimized clients. I need some help.

If I list my computers and projects I'm running could someone point me in the right direction?

Current projects I have running on all 3 computers are Predictor, Einstein and SETI.

Computer Specs:

Mac Mini G4 1.42GHz
Pentium 4 (Hyper-Threading) 2.80 GHz
AMD Athlon XP 2800+ 2.1GHz

If you look into the trux calibrating client, you can find that it will claim normal numbers (not over inflated, unfair) for the non optimised clients like predictor and such, but will "calibrate" for optimised clients, such as seti, and get you to claiming closer to the "optimum" 32.32 claimed credit.

http://boinc.truxoft.com/
     
baw  (op)
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Mar 23, 2006, 08:10 AM
 
Ok, I'm starting to understand this stuff. However, why would I run an optimized BOINC app to alter my benchmarks? Why not just used optimized core apps for the projects? What is the benefit of getting a better benchmark?
     
sdubz
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Mar 23, 2006, 08:51 AM
 
Originally Posted by baw
Ok, I'm starting to understand this stuff. However, why would I run an optimized BOINC app to alter my benchmarks? Why not just used optimized core apps for the projects? What is the benefit of getting a better benchmark?

when you use an optimized client like the awesome one frem Team MacNN, you are spending less time per work unit, resulting in less claimed credit. So, if you use the default boinc app, you will only claim a fraction of what the "expected" outcome whould be with the default (seti) client.
     
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Mar 24, 2006, 02:00 PM
 
Also, the optimized client may be so fast that your machine constantly runs out of work. The amount of work requested is tied to the benchmarks, so a BOINC build that gives higher benchmarks will request more work.

Note: If you use your computer for other heavy tasks and seem to be getting swamped with work units that don't complete in time, try switching to a non-Superbench version. You may be requesting more work than your system can complete within the time limit.
     
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Apr 8, 2006, 09:31 PM
 
Hi,

I have bee using BOINC client version 5.3.12.tx36 for powerpc-apple-darwin and I have been quite happy with the calibration of my credits:

CC calibration: blocked [negative calibration limit] 13.30 >> 8.44 (time: 6598s >> 4081s / Gfpops: 1.02 >> 1.10)
CC calibration: blocked [negative calibration limit] 13.25 >> 8.40 (time: 6568s >> 4063s / Gfpops: 1.02 >> 1.10)
CC calibration: blocked [negative calibration limit] 12.07 >> 8.29 (time: 5988s >> 3912s / Gfpops: 1.02 >> 1.20)
...
CC calibration: 12.69 >> 23.81 (time: 6294s >> 7173s / Gfpops: 1.02 >> 3.27)
CC calibration: 12.70 >> 24.47 (time: 6300s >> 7261s / Gfpops: 1.02 >> 3.36)
CC calibration: 12.92 >> 25.51 (time: 6409s >> 7464s / Gfpops: 1.02 >> 3.44)
CC calibration: 11.78 >> 23.77 (time: 5840s >> 6864s / Gfpops: 1.02 >> 3.52)
CC calibration: 12.77 >> 26.34 (time: 6333s >> 7510s / Gfpops: 1.02 >> 3.59)
....

after I restarted the BOINC Manager calibration seemed to starting all over again:

CC calibration: 12.76 >> 26.85 (time: 6329s >> 7566s / Gfpops: 1.02 >> 3.67)
-->RESTART<--
[---] truXoft add-on: calibrate_credit = [email protected]
CC calibration: blocked [negative calibration limit] 13.28 >> 8.85 (time: 6625s >> 4237s / Gfpops: 1.01 >> 1.15)
CC calibration: blocked [negative calibration limit] 12.96 >> 8.64 (time: 6466s >> 4135s / Gfpops: 1.01 >> 1.15)

Is this normal?
Does it always start over again every time I restart the BOINC client?
Anybody else experienced similar behavior?

Thanks a lot!
     
sdubz
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Apr 10, 2006, 03:08 PM
 
Originally Posted by fakeroot
after I restarted the BOINC Manager calibration seemed to starting all over again:

CC calibration: 12.76 >> 26.85 (time: 6329s >> 7566s / Gfpops: 1.02 >> 3.67)
-->RESTART<--
[---] truXoft add-on: calibrate_credit = [email protected]
CC calibration: blocked [negative calibration limit] 13.28 >> 8.85 (time: 6625s >> 4237s / Gfpops: 1.01 >> 1.15)
CC calibration: blocked [negative calibration limit] 12.96 >> 8.64 (time: 6466s >> 4135s / Gfpops: 1.01 >> 1.15)

Is this normal?
Does it always start over again every time I restart the BOINC client?
Anybody else experienced similar behavior?

Thanks a lot!
Hmmm, I'm not sure why it's doing that!

None of the machines I have it running on have ever started the calibration over.

If I find something I'll let you know!
     
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Apr 10, 2006, 10:20 PM
 
Try checking the drive with Disk Utility. Verify the drive, then verify permissions. BOINC may recalibrate if if can't open the existing file.
     
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Apr 10, 2006, 11:26 PM
 
Originally Posted by reader50
Try checking the drive with Disk Utility. Verify the drive, then verify permissions. BOINC may recalibrate if if can't open the existing file.
I think I figured out why it started over again:
I was running the BOINC Manager when I postet the results above. After the restart BOINC Menubar started automatically and I also started BOINC Manager manually. That was the mistake I think, because BOINC Menubar was using the file and the Manager couldn't use it. I removed BOINC Menubar and restarted the program several times since and it continues where it left off with calibrating my results.
It is working now.
Thanks!
     
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Apr 14, 2006, 02:19 PM
 
Hi, I am new to this.

I am dividing time between SETI and Predictor and recently downloaded the SETI optimized client and the superbench CLI. I removed the original boinc from the resources folder and moved and renamed the superbench. SETI runs much faster, but Predictor won't begin processing.

Can anyone point me in the right direction.

Predictor was running fine before I "optimized."

Thanks

Larry Larsen
     
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Apr 16, 2006, 04:17 AM
 
The Predictor comp error mentioned above seems to have resolved itself, but I just attached to Rosetta with the superbench and am getting comp errors there. Does the rosetta client run with the superbenchG4 (4.44)?

Or will this resolve itself as well?

Thanks again...
     
   
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