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ae86_16v · Sep 16, 2003, 05:36 AM

Which one should I get?

Is it really worth the $500 difference?

And no, I am not a graphic artist or a avid gamer.

wanderlust · Sep 16, 2003, 05:53 AM

Originally posted by ae86_16v:
And no, I am not a graphic artist or a avid gamer.

Heh, heh. I think you just answered your own question.

Ryan1524 · Sep 16, 2003, 06:02 AM

how much money do you ahve and willing to spend...

TheIceMan · Sep 16, 2003, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by ae86_16v:
Which one should I get?

Is it really worth the $500 difference?

And no, I am not a graphic artist or a avid gamer.

1) If you're gonna use the DVD burning features
2) If you think the ambient light sensor is cool
3) If you're gonna need the built-in Airport Extreme

then I'd say the $600 $2599-1999=$600
is worth it.

Sakino · Sep 16, 2003, 06:09 AM

Why does it say 4-6 week shipping for powerbooks?

Lassitudo · Sep 16, 2003, 06:13 AM

the Superdrive is esentially useless... no data storage...

Kahpoosta Kid · Sep 16, 2003, 06:15 AM

Originally posted by Sakino:
Why does it say 4-6 week shipping for powerbooks?

3-5 days in US. Are u in Greenland or something?

Sakino · Sep 16, 2003, 06:16 AM

Originally posted by Kahpoosta Kid:
3-5 days in US. Are u in Greenland or something?

No America, I ordered adc.

Sakino · Sep 16, 2003, 06:16 AM

Originally posted by Sakino:
No America, I ordered adc.

See

AirPort Extreme Base Station (with modem and antenna port) M8799LL/A Same bus.day $199.00 1 $199.00

HP DeskJet 5650 Inkjet Printer T7206LL/A 1-2 bus.days $149.00 1 $149.00

iPod - 20GB M9244LL/A 1-3 bus.days $319.00 1 $319.00

Apple Wireless Mouse M9269ZM/A 2-3 weeks $55.00 1 $55.00

PowerBook 1.25GHz (15.2" TFT) Z07E 4-6 weeks $2,579.00 1 $2,579.00
1.25GHz PowerPC G4 065-4116
1GB DDR333 SDRAM - 1 SO-DIMM 065-4673
80GB Ultra ATA drive @ 5400 rpm 065-4544
SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW) 065-4119
AirPort Extreme Card 065-4496
Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English 065-4495

ae86_16v · Sep 16, 2003, 06:29 AM

Originally posted by TheIceMan:
1) If you're gonna use the DVD burning features
2) If you think the ambient light sensor is cool
3) If you're gonna need the built-in Airport Extreme

then I'd say the $600 $2599-1999=$600
is worth it.

Yeah sorry, $600. But I think DVD burning is needed, the light sensor is cool but I never used it on my 17" that I had. And I don't need the extra speed of Airport Extreme, but I do need Airport.

Do you guys think that the 1.25 chip and the 1.0 will have a noticable difference?

michaelb · Sep 16, 2003, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by ae86_16v:
Do you guys think that the 1.25 chip and the 1.0 will have a noticable difference?

Well, you're talking 25%...

Eg, filters taking 45 secs instead of 1 min.

(But they both suck against a G5 1.2 which is what the new 'Books should have been! Sorry! The AppleInsider speculation had got me convinced now was the right time. Maybe in 6 months.)

ae86_16v · Sep 16, 2003, 07:17 AM

Okay, just ordered a 1.0GHz 15" w/ a 20GB iPod and a HP Printer.

Decided that all that extras isn't really necessary.

AssassyN · Sep 16, 2003, 07:34 AM

Originally posted by ae86_16v:
Okay, just ordered a 1.0GHz 15" w/ a 20GB iPod and a HP Printer.

Decided that all that extras isn't really necessary.

Whoa, sweet deal man...did you not own a 17" PB before? Wow, these new 12" and 15" AlBooks are so tempting...even a DVI-out on the 12"!

ae86_16v · Sep 16, 2003, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by AssassyN:
Whoa, sweet deal man...did you not own a 17" PB before? Wow, these new 12" and 15" AlBooks are so tempting...even a DVI-out on the 12"!

Yeah, and I realized that I turned off the ambient sensors when I had the 17". I would've probably picked up a 1.25 if I could've taken out the keyboard. Oh wells.

Also, it was listed as sameday shipping.

Link · Sep 16, 2003, 07:48 AM

If I were you I'd call apple and BTO a backlit keybaord into that sucker. $69 on the applestore

all2ofme · Sep 16, 2003, 08:41 AM

Well, almost. It's not quite as nice as your example shows - on the 1.25GHz machine it'd take 48 seconds assuming all other factors to be equal (which they likely are not)

Either way, I want a new one! I know my current 17" should do me well for a good time yet, but I can't help but lust after something more sensibly sized. That 12" would be lovely, now that it's got the DVI port.

Does anyone know if the 12" has Level 3 cache? I fear it hasn't.

Originally posted by michaelb:
Well, you're talking 25%...

Eg, filters taking 45 secs instead of 1 min.

(But they both suck against a G5 1.2 which is what the new 'Books should have been! Sorry! The AppleInsider speculation had got me convinced now was the right time. Maybe in 6 months.)

scottiB · Sep 16, 2003, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by all2ofme:
Does anyone know if the 12" has Level 3 cache? I fear it hasn't.

Your fear is true, but neither do the other two, anyway.

AssassyN · Sep 16, 2003, 08:48 AM

The L3 cache on American PB's has been totally removed. There's some conflicts as the UK pages say their PBs come w/ L3 cache, but the US page omits it.

mamamia · Sep 16, 2003, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by Lassitudo:
the Superdrive is esentially useless... no data storage...

is this true? no way to use a dvd for archiving?

kikkoman · Sep 16, 2003, 11:38 AM

When configured identically the 1.25 GHz is a better value. $57 more gives you 25% faster processor. I predict Apple will make it impossible to dowgrade the hard drive and SuperDrive in the 1.25 GHz model in the near future.

� 1GHz PowerPC G4
� 512MB DDR333 SDRAM - 2x256 SO-DIMMs
� 60GB Ultra ATA drive @ 4200 rpm
� Combo Drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
� Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English
� AirPort Extreme Card
� 15.2-inch TFT Display
Subtotal $2,267.00

� 1.25GHz PowerPC G4
� 512MB DDR333 SDRAM - 2x256 SO-DIMMs
� 60GB Ultra ATA drive @ 4200 rpm
� Combo Drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
� Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English
� AirPort Extreme Card
� 15.2-inch TFT Display
Subtotal $2,324.00

AssassyN · Sep 16, 2003, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by kikkoman:
When configured identically the 1.25 GHz is a better value. $57 more gives you 25% faster processor. I predict Apple will make it impossible to dowgrade the hard drive and SuperDrive in the 1.25 GHz model in the near future.

� 1GHz PowerPC G4
� 512MB DDR333 SDRAM - 2x256 SO-DIMMs
� 60GB Ultra ATA drive @ 4200 rpm
� Combo Drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
� Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English
� AirPort Extreme Card
� 15.2-inch TFT Display
Subtotal $2,267.00

� 1.25GHz PowerPC G4
� 512MB DDR333 SDRAM - 2x256 SO-DIMMs
� 60GB Ultra ATA drive @ 4200 rpm
� Combo Drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
� Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English
� AirPort Extreme Card
� 15.2-inch TFT Display
Subtotal $2,324.00

Wow, very nice point...for those not in need of a SuperDrive, this is easily the best config. Definitely more bang for your buck, I can't believe Apple allows these downgrades.

cambro · Sep 16, 2003, 11:47 AM

This is what I did for my Ghz Ti. I dropped the SD and also bought from AppleEdu during the double your RAM for $40 promotion. That gave me a maxed-out high end for about the same as a similarly configured low-end model.

The only dif? SD! Oh, and the low-end only had 32 Mb video mem.