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Jun 14, 2019, 04:21 PM
 
Dems:
Biden - No. I used to like him but he's missed the boat and is campaigning like it's the 80s and he can just cakewalk.
Bernie - I still like some of his ideas, but man is he old.
Pete - Run for governor or senator, Pete. Run for president in 8 years.
Beto - Ditto.
Kamala - I like her. Tough, knows the law.
Warren - I also like her. Got an issue? She has a plan for that. She has prepared for this.

Others - meh.

Reps:
I've heard rumors some will challenge Trump in the primary, and the republican base is trying to distance themselves from his antics... who would run?
     
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Jun 15, 2019, 04:20 AM
 
Honestly, I would not elect Sanders or Biden based on their age alone. Being President is a tough job, and if you are close to crossing the average life expectancy during the term, you are way too old.

I like Warren and the fact that she really does her homework. I don't agree with some of the details, but honestly, as soon as you propose something specific, you'll get people disagreeing about the hows even if you agree on the whats. So I don't hold it against her.

Mayor Pete seems like a solid choice for VP, me thinks. Extremely smart, bipartisan pedigree but like you wrote, a bit young.

Beto needs to grind a bit more, losing an election is not the best of qualifications. I don't think he should be running for president at this stage. Charisma is not a qualification.
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Jun 15, 2019, 09:26 PM
 
Beto's biggest asset is that he almost beat Cruz, without any PAC money, without even real support from the state party until late in the game, just real grassroots support. He nearly beat an obscenely well funded, party supported incumbent. From out of nowhere.

He's "hungry" for the challenge, and though he may seem unseasoned from someone who didn't watch his whole senate race, he IS getting lots of attention, exceeding fundraising goals, and getting plenty of local activism going.

Bernie no longer looks like "the outsider with new ideas." He kinda looks like the uncle that should have been put in an assisted living center years ago.

Joe is affable, has plenty of actual experience, but has no direction - and no agenda. He needs both or he just flounders around.

Elizabeth has experience, had chops, and has an agenda. But I can see the Dems having issues with going to bat for her, mainly because she's not "some other woman" we shouldn't name.

I'm afraid that Kamala is also going to have to deal with that, plus she's black and the Dems are pretty psychotic about this whole "logic" thing when it comes to candidate selection...

Someone to watch is Julian Castro. Former San Antonio mayor (a coworker went to high school with him and his twin brother Joaquin), he was only 40 when he was named HUD secretary and was the youngest member of Obama's cabinet. Between him and his congressman-brother, there's a ton of smarts, savvy and great ideas.

The field is way too big right now, and if they are smart, the Democratic Party will start winnowing soon. And if they are really smart, they'll figure a way to redirect support from "former candidate" campaigns into the smaller field's candidates, ultimately funneling all support to their chosen candidate.

I'll also point out this caution: the reason Nixon won in 1968 was that the Democrats split between Humphrey and Wallace. (Yes, a big chunk of then-Democrats supported Mr. Segregation and his newly minted "American Independent" party). If the Democrat vote hadn't been split, it wouldn't have taken a lot of Wallace supporters' votes added to Humphrey's to beat Nixon's vote. Nixon only got about 500,000 more votes than Humphrey (31,783,783 vs. 31,271,839). The Democratic Party needs to keep this little history lesson in mind for 2020, get their act together, and get a single candidate out there, one who's drive is not just "get Don out of the Oval Office."

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Jun 15, 2019, 11:11 PM
 
Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
...the Democrats split between Humphrey and Wallace. (Yes, a big chunk of then-Democrats supported Mr. Segregation and his newly minted "American Independent" party).
Yeah...that would be my parents. To my lifelong shame.
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Jun 16, 2019, 01:05 PM
 
Biden; everybody's old uncle. Like the guy personally, but he's got lots of neoliberal baggage, and his image still comes across as that creepy uncle who just can't help himself when he's near the ladies, even though I don't think he has any harmful intent.

Beto; not progressive enough for me, and too early in his political life.

Buttigieg; same as Beto, and doesn't support a single payer health system, which every other developed country has, and which we can afford, if we'd stop playing Imperial Master of the Universe.

Harris; Ok, but nothing stands out for me.

Warren; My choice. The people's person. We have to return this country to the people, and get rid of the oligarchs/plutocrats/kleptocrats. No one "earns" a billion dollars a year.

Bernie; similar to Warren, but he's too old, and, once again, the Democrats (who seem to want to lose, as they just can't get away from Wall Street) are going to to do everything they can to keep him out.

Others; grasping at straws.

I'll vote for whomever the Democratic nominee is, but I hope I don't have to hold my nose like I did in 2016.
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Jun 16, 2019, 02:02 PM
 
The thing about Buttigieg is, if it weren’t for being gay, he’s probably the one in the field who’s moderate enough to maybe capture some edge-case conservative votes. I mean, you don’t get elected mayor of Notre DameSouth Bend by being a commie librul.
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Jun 17, 2019, 04:54 AM
 
@Thorzdad
I agree, and this is clearly Buttigieg's play to differentiate himself from Warren and Sanders. What is your feeling, do you think the Democrats will opt for a moderate like Biden or Buttigieg? Or will they go for someone who is more clearly differentiated from the GOP?
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