[Kerrigan]

Can a thread on anal sex be allowable so long as the words are minced and there is a NSFW warning?

[tooki]

Why do we need it? I think it's been discussed plenty elsewhere on the Intarweb™.

tooki

[Peter]

because the lounge is a general discussion forum?
if we're allowed hot babes threads, dick sizes, and other NSFW things, I think it should be allowed to discuss anal sex.

[darth-vader000]

I'm offended that you even posted a request.

Also think of the big picture I may visit this site on my lunch hour (ahem sometimes when isn't my lunch) and I cannot go to a site that starts having such pornographic overtones. Regardless if its on sizes, babes or what the OP has requested

If the subject matter is important to you, then frequent the sites that are focused on that issue and allow others the curtsey of not having it thrown in our faces.

[Mastrap]

Easy solutions: Don't open NSFW threads. Or don't visit the lounge from work. Nobody is throwing anything into people's faces. You're here by choice.

[Peter]

Originally Posted by darth-vader000

I'm offended that you even posted a request.

Also think of the big picture I may visit this site on my lunch hour (ahem sometimes when isn't my lunch) and I cannot go to a site that starts having such pornographic overtones. Regardless if its on sizes, babes or what the OP has requested

If the subject matter is important to you, then frequent the sites that are focused on that issue and allow others the curtsey of not having it thrown in our faces.

Dont visit the lounge then, dont open "NSFW" topics then... Seems pretty obvious to me

[darth-vader000]

Easier yet, don't post these threads where other people particlarly minors can visit.

While I'm at work its definitely inapropriate to see this stuff and I don't want to get in trouble.

At home, I choose not see such filth in a public forum especially forums that are dedicated to macintoshes.

There other sites that focus on such topics, I don't visit them,but if those areas are important to you go to them. I enjoy the various banter in the lounge, so its not appropriate to say don't go there.

Why should I have to change my habits and avoid a public computer forum to satisify someone needs to discuss those pornographic topics.

Do not "adult forums" require visitors to be 18? why post stuff here where many are under age and yet others find it offensive.

[Oisín]

Originally Posted by darth-vader000

Easier yet, don't post these threads where other people particlarly minors can visit.

While I'm at work its definitely inapropriate to see this stuff and I don't want to get in trouble.

When you’re at work, it’s inappropriate for you to visit the Lounge to begin with.

And there was actually a large amount of friendly bantering in that thread, which is what you say you enjoy about the Lounge.

Why should I have to change my habits and avoid a public computer forum to satisify someone needs to discuss those pornographic topics.

Because that’s the way it works. You don’t have to stop visiting the Lounge, of course; but if there are threads about topics you’re either offended by or simply don’t want to read about, it’s up to you—as long as the threads don’t break the rules of the forum, which, if I’m interpreting tooki’s reply correctly, a properly tagged anal sex thread wouldn’t—not to actively click the threads and read them. It’s not even changing your habits, since you most likely already do just that with threads you don’t feel like reading.

I don’t (usually) read threads about sports, cars, planes, and such things, because they bore me to death. But they don’t break the rules of the forum, so I just ignore them.

Do not "adult forums" require visitors to be 18? why post stuff here where many are under age and yet others find it offensive.

‘Adult forums’ require visitors to be over 18 because pornographic material is displayed there; no pornographic material was displayed in the anal sex thread. Sexually oriented content is not the same as pornographic content. Otherwise, about 75 per cent of the Lounge threads would most likely need to be locked. We have plenty of threads regarding topics such as when members lost their virginity, if members have ever contracted an STD, etc. These are no less sexual in content than a thread about whether members have ever engaged in anal sex.

[Kevin]

Ah only in MacNN would people be arguing to allow anal sex threads.

Why does this not surprise me?

[rjenkinson]

Originally Posted by tooki

Why do we need it? I think it's been discussed plenty elsewhere on the Intarweb™.

tooki

don't ask him why we might need it. it's not allowable, according to the terms of service you posted on 12/02/2005:

Originally Posted by tooki

No adult content. We have many underage members, and many members view the forums from the workplace, where adult content may violate regulations.

-r.

[Kevin]

Well I guess that is settled.

[rickey939]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Well I guess that is settled.

Not yet...




Okay, now it is.

[darth-vader000]

Originally Posted by Oisín

Because that’s the way it works. You don’t have to stop visiting the Lounge

No I don't, you see the forum rules are pretty specfic

Emphasis Added:

"By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws."

So as Ricky said

[Oisín]

Originally Posted by darth-vader000

No I don't, you see the forum rules are pretty specfic

Emphasis Added:

"By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws."

Those rules are due either for some rewriting or for some enforcement. At the moment they’re not being enforced at all. Or rather, they’re being enforced based on the individual moderators’ idea of what constitutes obscenity, vulgarity, sexual orientation, hate, and threats, rather than by some (more or less) objective yardstick.

Which is fine, I suppose (indeed, it’s explicitly stated that this is how the rules are enforced)—but it completely nullifies it when non-moderator members point to the rules to say that something is not allowed: it’s only not allowed if a moderator thinks it falls under one of the above categories. There are myriads of threads and posts in the Lounge that would, according to some views, fit several (or even all) of the categories, and yet go unmoderated. I’d say at a rough guess that about 80 per cent of the posts in the Political/War Lounge fall under the category of vulgar or hateful by most standards.

The moderators are in fact openly supporting threads that break the rules by allowing NSFW threads—even encouraging and instructing users to mark such threads ‘NSFW’. Since anything “obscene, vulgar, sexually oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws” is not allowed, that means that all NSFW content is not allowed.

Basically, what I’m saying is: if you (addressing the moderators now) are going to close threads about anal sex, why not close other threads that are just as (or more) sexually oriented, such as the Hot Babes thread? Why not at least try to be relatively uniform and consistent in thread lockings?

[besson3c]

What happens if a minor comes here and reads this thread about butt sex?

[Kevin]

[slugslugslug]

Obviously, a minor's head will explode if he or she even thinks about reading about b*** s**.

In all seriousness, I don't think I care that much if the thread gets deleted. I mean, I think anyone who's hit puberty should be able to find accurate information about human sexuality. But I doubt that's much of what one would find in a MacNN Lounge b*** s** thread. And I certainly don't have qualms about participating in a forum whose mods have decided on a short list of off-limits topics.

Of course, if the powers that be do decide to allow conversation on specific sex acts, I'm there.

[greenamp]

Maybe we should just start off with hetero prostate stimulation threads 1st, and see how that goes. Baby steps.

[Mastrap]

[Rumor]

Why does butt secks sound like a disease?

"I'd like to go to the movies tonight, Sally, but my butt secks are acting up again."

[paul w]

I mean, what minor with free access to the web doesn't know that buttsex exists anyway? Better that he should stumble upon a (rather) civil discussion than, the many (educative) pictoral sites that exist... (and I'm not even mentioning that g..... site).

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by paul w

I mean, what minor with free access to the web doesn't know that buttsex exists anyway? Better that he should stumble upon a (rather) civil discussion than, the many (educative) pictoral sites that exist... (and I'm not even mentioning that g..... site).

Hell the g..... site is all over the net. In your reasoning, why not just replace the MacNN logo with it? We have all seen it. Right?

[paul w]

No, that's not my reasoning. I'm just saying that any topic should be OK ( even for someone young and innocent ) so long as it's discussed in a reasonably goodnatured and mature fashion.

[darth-vader000]

Originally Posted by paul w

so long as it's discussed in a reasonably goodnatured and mature fashion.

That's your first mistake - there's not too many goodnatured and mature posts in the lounge, and second, I don't want to be subjected with that stuff, nor would I want my kids to see it.

[Rumor]

Welcome to the MacNN forums. You first and only stop for all things butt sex.

[Rumor]

Really though, if you want to have a conversation about it, make a private group or just pm people.

[paul w]

Originally Posted by darth-vader000

That's your first mistake - there's not too many goodnatured and mature posts in the lounge, and second, I don't want to be subjected with that stuff, nor would I want my kids to see it.

No mistake there, I know what this place is like, but that wasn't my point. And if you and your children don't want to be subjected to something, well then don't come. And have a nice talk with them about why the internet is bad.

Discussion of a subject does not necessarily mean endorsment. That's my point.

[darth-vader000]

Originally Posted by paul w

then don't come.

Thats my issue, this is a computer forum not a porn site, or adult site that discusses various acts. why should I avoid going to comptuer sites because some people want to post material that is not appropriate.

[Rumor]

Originally Posted by darth-vader000

Thats my issue, this is a computer forum not a porn site, or adult site that discusses various acts. why should I avoid going to comptuer sites because some people want to post material that is not appropriate.

But this is a computer forum full of adults.

[Railroader]

Originally Posted by Rumor

But this is a computer forum full of adults.

There are a LOT of children here. It's certainly not "full" of adults.

[darth-vader000]

Originally Posted by Rumor

But this is a computer forum full of adults.

No it aint, while not comprehensive just look at the expanded macnn profile sticky
linky

[Rumor]

Perhaps my definition of child is different, because I don't consider a 16 or 17 yo a "child".

[imaxxedout]

I don't think we should allow discussions of terrorism either. Or anything else that anybody should find offensive. Ever. In fact, the political lounge is pretty much offensive to everybody. Let's close it.