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Feb 21, 2008, 11:04 PM
 
I called it at 9:56. I guess that means that Jack knows Claire is his half-sister.
 

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Feb 21, 2008, 11:11 PM
 
Woah... it finally clicked!
 
I missed what made you think that Jack knows about his relationship to Claire.
     
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Originally Posted by Ghoser777 View Post
Woah... it finally clicked!
 
I missed what made you think that Jack knows about his relationship to Claire.
Kate said, "I know why you don't want to come see us" or something to that effect. I'm guessing the relationship comes out, Claire dies, and Jack can't bring himself to be around the baby.

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Feb 22, 2008, 12:04 AM
 
Jack doesn't want to see Aaron because he feels guilty for taking him from Claire.
"Everything's so clear to me now: I'm the keeper of the cheese and you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it.
That's why he's gonna kill us. So we got to beat it. Yeah. Before he let's loose the marmosets on us."
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Feb 22, 2008, 04:10 AM
 
Kate is living in a nice house. Anybody think she might be with Ben? He has a history of taking and raising kids that aren't his.
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Originally Posted by design219 View Post
Kate is living in a nice house. Anybody think she might be with Ben? He has a history of taking and raising kids that aren't his.
Its been said a couple of times that all the 'Oceanic 6' got massive settlements from the airline. As in they never have to worry about money again.
     
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Feb 22, 2008, 04:28 AM
 
Yeah, good point. I still think she might be with Ben. That would be just too creepy. And taking Aaron to raise would be his style. Kate could be their to protect Aaron.
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Feb 22, 2008, 09:33 AM
 
There is the idea that Jack might have played a part in what happened to Claire, causing Kate to adopt Aaron, and that's why Jack can't bring himself to see Aaron. Adding the fact that he might find out, after what happens to Claire, that she is his half-sister.
     
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Feb 22, 2008, 10:01 AM
 
Desmond's last vision of Charlie shutting down the radio jammer also saw Claire and Aaron both getting on a helicopter. So far, his visions have been spot on. If that's true, either something happens off island to Claire, or maybe even more weird, Claire is one of the six and followed through with her original plan to give up her baby. (very unlikely)

I think there was a clue (beyond just setting up the mind twist at the end) in the way Kate would not pick up Aaron when Claire asked her to.

I'm still predicting Kate is now with Ben. *shiver
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Feb 22, 2008, 05:51 PM
 
Originally Posted by design219 View Post
Desmond's last vision of Charlie shutting down the radio jammer also saw Claire and Aaron both getting on a helicopter. So far, his visions have been spot on. If that's true, either something happens off island to Claire, or maybe even more weird, Claire is one of the six and followed through with her original plan to give up her baby. (very unlikely)
But, IIRC, we never saw Desmond's vision of Claire and Aaron getting into the helicopter. We've seen his other visions, so perhaps he was just lying because he knew that was the only way to get Charlie to sacrifice himself. Maybe the actual scene he saw was he and Sayid getting into the helicopter.

I think there was a clue (beyond just setting up the mind twist at the end) in the way Kate would not pick up Aaron when Claire asked her to.
That's what helped me figure it out.

I'm still predicting Kate is now with Ben. *shiver
She can be "with" him without being with him. I have a feeling Ben has something over some or all of the Ocean Six. He was always on my list of people who could be in the coffin, but now I think he may be the frontrunner.

Another theory I have is that Desmond wasn't the only person who was sent back in time (in some way) when he turned that key in the hatch. That would explain the Dharma polar bear remains in Tunisia. It might also mean that the dead kid with the heroin could be a time-lost Mr. Eko.

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Feb 28, 2008, 11:05 PM
 
Well crap, I had a distraction and didn't see the note! What did it say?
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Feb 28, 2008, 11:15 PM
 
You mean in Faraday's diary at the end of the episode?

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Feb 29, 2008, 04:02 AM
 
Wow. Sucks to be Desmond. He's had more mind fcsks than anyone else on the show. Thats for sure.

Though he could also be off the island. He wasn't on the plane, so he wouldn't be part of the 6.
     
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Originally Posted by Teronzhul View Post
"If anything goes wrong, Desmond Hume will be my constant."
Thanks Teronzhul!

Yeah, poor Des, he has become by far the most interesting character. Followed by Ben. Then Sayid. Then Locke. Oddly, the women characters are just not that interesting anymore, not even Kate.
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Feb 29, 2008, 08:35 AM
 
THAT was a frakkin good episode. Let's hope it's not all down hill from here...
"Everything's so clear to me now: I'm the keeper of the cheese and you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it.
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Feb 29, 2008, 10:55 AM
 
Thank god the producers have told us that this show will end. If they didn't commit to that, I'd probably stop watching. Feels like we are finally getting some answers.
     
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Feb 29, 2008, 11:04 AM
 
It will end on TV.

But then the movies will start.
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It will end on TV.

But then the movies will start.
Never thought of that.
     
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Feb 29, 2008, 12:57 PM
 
The time travel plot line was cool, but I was disappointed with the whole business about "you need a constant because every equation must have a constant" explanation. Wha?
     
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Feb 29, 2008, 01:19 PM
 
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I was disappointed with the whole business about "you need a constant because every equation must have a constant" explanation. Wha?
Don't try to make since of this show...you'll ruin the experience!

But I agree, that was one of the sillier bits.
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Don't try to make since.
     
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Feb 29, 2008, 02:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by design219 View Post
Thanks Teronzhul!

Yeah, poor Des, he has become by far the most interesting character. Followed by Ben. Then Sayid. Then Locke. Oddly, the women characters are just not that interesting anymore, not even Kate.
Yeah. How on earth did Sayemo become a more compelling character than Kate?
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Yeah. How on earth did Sayemo become a more compelling character than Kate?
I've not understood Kate as a character since that weird bank robbery thing. Nobody would do that. I have to assume that women sympathize with her.
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Then Sayid. Then Locke.
Oh please. Sayid doesn't do anything interesting other than kill/main/threaten people. Locke communes with the island.
Been inclined to wander... off the beaten track.
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Feb 29, 2008, 10:01 PM
 
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Yeah. How on earth did Sayemo become a more compelling character than Kate?
He's always been more compelling to Kate IMO. Desmond, Sayid, Locke, and Ben have been carrying this show for the last couple of years.

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Here's a little light reading:

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Here's a little light reading:

Mirror Matter Theory
My brain hurts.
     
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Mar 6, 2008, 10:41 PM
 
Guess: Walt or Michael is Ben's person on the boat.
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Mar 7, 2008, 12:14 AM
 
It's Walt.
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Mar 7, 2008, 08:25 AM
 
Walt, yeah, and he's probably 30 something.

And what about Ben... a really smooth ladies man. (MINE!)
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It's Walt.
Source? I figured it's either Walt or Michael. Had a feeling it was Michael but nothing to back it up.
     
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Originally Posted by Ghoser777 View Post
Guess: Walt or Michael is Ben's person on the boat.
It's been announced that Michael would be returning to the story line this season.
     
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Mar 7, 2008, 04:19 PM
 
yep, unfortunately we can guess he's the man on the boat. It would be much more interesting if Naomi weren't dead, or someone else we think is dead...
     
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Mar 7, 2008, 04:31 PM
 
It is so obviously Michael. Though I have no idea why Sayid would need to sit down for that news.
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Originally Posted by Chuckit View Post
It is so obviously Michael. Though I have no idea why Sayid would need to sit down for that news.
You mean Locke?

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It's a bit slow when Desmond's thread in the story isn't part of an episode. Not nearly as intense as last week.
     
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I'm revising my Walt statement to say that the spy is probably Michael. I'm going to say that when Ben sent them off -- after giving them specific directions -- they got "rescued" by Whitmore. Ben's group then made contact with Michael/Walt via the ability Ben has to communicate with people all over the island, and they've been in cahoots ever since.
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I like that theory. I'd say you might be on to something there.
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Originally Posted by lavar78 View Post
You mean Locke?
Yes. Though I guess Sayid might need to sit down too since he's actually on the boat.
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WTF!!?!?!?

 
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WTF is going on. The date on the tombstone was the crash date, no? Does that mean he's still on the island?

My head is spinning.
     
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WTF is going on. The date on the tombstone was the crash date, no? Does that mean he's still on the island?
I missed that. Hmmmmm. Could it be part of the cover story? Sun didn't look like she was acting.

I like Jin, this sux.

Oh, and Michael. We all saw that coming.
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Ugh. More of Michael doing anything at all to try and save his son. Been there. Done that.

WAAAAAAALLLLLLLT!
     
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So many thoughts about what could be happening - perhaps they have to lie about how/when Jin died to keep their cover story (that there isn't anyone else alive on the island) intact. Crazy...
     
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Ugh. More of Michael doing anything at all to try and save his son. Been there. Done that.

WAAAAAAALLLLLLLT!
They TOOK...... my SON!!!!!!!
     
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WTF!!?!?!?

 
 
     
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They TOOK...... my SON!!!!!!!
I for one was hoping I'd never ever see those two again. Ever.

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So I guess Walt wrote the note to not trust the captain?
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