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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post

As someone who knows he'll be on Coumadin in the future, is being on a blood thinner some kind of big deal I don't know about?
There are newer drugs that are better than Warfarin/,Coumadin AKA rat poison.
As someone who was on blood thinners (Plavix/aspirin), yes being on blood thinners is a big deal. (post cardiac stent placement)

Dr. Drew voiced concerns because it sounded like there is interactions with the other medications Hillary is taking, and it looks like he lost his CNN gig over it.
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Aug 26, 2016, 05:41 PM
 
Trump takes an aspirin a day, too, Chongo, which implies he also has heart issues/blood pressure issues?
     
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Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
Trump takes an aspirin a day, too, Chongo, which implies he also has heart issues/blood pressure issues?
Could be. I also take an aspirin a day. I say we have all candidate examined (including a full body cavity search for good measure) by a board of doctors and have the results published on the web.
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Aug 26, 2016, 06:57 PM
 
Sure, but even then, there's folks who will think it's rigged, the doctors paid off, etc.

Even if a candidate is healthy, they could drop dead, in which case, we need a thread on our potential VPs...
     
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Aug 27, 2016, 09:57 AM
 
The Clintons have been doing pay for play for decades.
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Aug 27, 2016, 10:31 AM
 
This thread has a theme song.

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Aug 28, 2016, 12:33 PM
 
The 13th commandment, you shall not criticize Hillary.
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Aug 28, 2016, 06:08 PM
 
Some of the lawyers who read her emails, and the IT company/staff did not have security clearances? How the hell does someone not go to jail for that?
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Aug 29, 2016, 12:01 PM
 
The Weiner Threads were too old, and since Huma is tied at the hip with Hillary I guess this is as good as any place to post these.
Anthony Weiner sexted busty brunette while his son was in bed with him | New York Post


Huma says ¡Basta!
Huma Abedin is separating from her husband Anthony Weiner in the wake of his latest sexting scandal.
The Clinton campaign manager released a statement on Monday morning just hours after the New York Post reported that Weiner had been sending lewd texts to another woman behind her back, marking the third time he had been caught in the act in the past five years.


Read more: Huma Abedin smiles in the Hamptons with Hillary Clinton before husband's sext scandal | Daily Mail Online
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Aug 29, 2016, 12:09 PM
 
What a stellar judge of others character. No wonder she's a Hillary Supporter. THREE TIMES NOW??? Thats NOTHING compared to Bills affairs. Hillary didn't separate.
     
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Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post
What a stellar judge of others character. No wonder she's a Hillary Supporter. THREE TIMES NOW??? Thats NOTHING compared to Bills affairs. Hillary didn't separate.
Huma, should Hillary win,is most likely to be named chief of staff.
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Iran will love it. Just what they paid for.
     
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We have Dearbornistan, Now Bubba wants Detroitistan. @10:35 mark. Bubba wants to fill the empty homes of Detroit with Syrian refugees to "rebuild Detroit"
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Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
There are newer drugs that are better than Warfarin/,Coumadin AKA rat poison.
As someone who was on blood thinners (Plavix/aspirin), yes being on blood thinners is a big deal. (post cardiac stent placement)

Dr. Drew voiced concerns because it sounded like there is interactions with the other medications Hillary is taking, and it looks like he lost his CNN gig over it.
Good to know rat poison is still widely prescribed by doctors. Do you think you're smarter than her doctors, then?
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Good to know rat poison is still widely prescribed by doctors. Do you think you're smarter than her doctors, then?
If I remember correctly , Dr Drew was the one that pointed out that coumidan is rat poison. I looked it up just to make sure.
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and penicillin is bread mold. It's odd what we discover.

Meanwhile, in the early 1930s, Karl Paul Link, at the University of Wisconsin, identified dicumarol as a component of spoiled sweet clover, the ingestion of which caused a bleeding disease in cattle, described earlier by F.W. Shofield and L.M. Roderick. Coincidentally, the basis for understanding the action of warfarin was established in the late 1920s, when the Danish scientist Henrik Dam discovered vitamin K (“koagulation”), the absence of which caused a hemorrhagic disease in chicks. The diseased chicks and cattle had deficient plasma levels of prothrombin and, as subsequently shown, of the other vitamin K–dependent factors (factors VII, IX, and X) as well. In 1939, Link, searching for a better rat poison, synthesized dicumarol and a series of congeners and assigned the patents to the Wisconsin Alumni Research Foundation. He called the most potent of the congeners “warfarin,” a name derived from the organization's initials. Warfarin, introduced as a rat poison in 1948, was thought to be unsafe for human use; its first clinical use was reported only in 1955, after an unsuccessful suicide attempt suggested its relative lack of toxicity in humans. By 1999, warfarin was the 11th most frequently prescribed drug in the United States.
     
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Aug 30, 2016, 06:21 PM
 
Coumadin is a brand name of Warfarin
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warf..._a_rodenticide
Coumarins (4-hydroxycoumarin derivatives) are used as rodenticides for controlling rats and mice in residential, industrial, and agricultural areas. Warfarin is both odorless and tasteless, and is effective when mixed with food bait, because the rodents will return to the bait and continue to feed over a period of days until a lethal dose is accumulated (considered to be 1 mg/kg/day over about six days). It may also be mixed with talc and used as a tracking powder, which accumulates on the animal's skin and fur, and is subsequently consumed during grooming. The LD50 is 50–500 mg/kg. The IDLH value is 100 mg/m3 (warfarin; various species).[72]

The use of warfarin itself as a rat poison is now declining, because many rat populations have developed resistance to it, and poisons of considerably greater potency are now available. Other 4-hydroxycoumarins used as rodenticides include coumatetralyl and brodifacoum, which is sometimes referred to as "super-warfarin", because it is more potent, longer-acting, and effective even in rat and mouse populations that are resistant to warfarin. Unlike warfarin, which is readily excreted, newer anticoagulant poisons also accumulate in the liver and kidneys after ingestion.[73] However, such rodenticides may also accumulate in birds of prey and other animals that eat the poisoned rodents or baits.[74]
warfarin: definition of warfarin in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)

A water-soluble compound with anticoagulant properties, used as a rat poison and in the treatment of thrombosis.
A coumarin derivative; chemical formula: C19H16O4.
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This Mother Jones article sure sounds like pay for play
Hillary Clinton Oversaw US Arms Deals to Clinton Foundation Donors | Mother Jones
In 2011, the State Department cleared an enormous arms deal: Led by Boeing, a consortium of American defense contractors would deliver $29 billion worth of advanced fighter jets to Saudi Arabia, despite concerns over the kingdom's troublesome human rights record. In the years before Hillary Clinton became secretary of state, Saudi Arabia had contributed $10 million to the Clinton Foundation, and just two months before the jet deal was finalized, Boeing donated $900,000 to the Clinton Foundation, according to an International Business Times investigation released Tuesday.

The Saudi transaction is just one example of nations and companies that had donated to the Clinton Foundation seeing an increase in arms deals while Hillary Clinton oversaw the State Department. IBT found that between October 2010 and September 2012, State approved $165 billion in commercial arms sales to 20 nations that had donated to the foundation, plus another $151 billion worth of Pentagon-brokered arms deals to 16 of those countries—a 143 percent increase over the same time frame under the Bush Administration. The sales boosted the military power of authoritarian regimes such as Qatar, Algeria, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, and Oman, which, like Saudi Arabia, had been criticized by the department for human rights abuses.
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It's interesting that the strategy against HRC seems to be to focus on email and her allegedly having head trauma, whereas against Obama there was a much wider ranging palette of assault. I'm also surprised that ties to the Clinton foundation isn't a regular part of the rotation.
     
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Aug 31, 2016, 08:59 AM
 
Too early for that. Wait until 2-3 weeks into October.
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
It's interesting that the strategy against HRC seems to be to focus on email and her allegedly having head trauma, whereas against Obama there was a much wider ranging palette of assault. I'm also surprised that ties to the Clinton foundation isn't a regular part of the rotation.
It's bad when Mother Jones is posting articles.

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This Mother Jones article sure sounds like pay for play
Hillary Clinton Oversaw US Arms Deals to Clinton Foundation Donors | Mother Jones
In 2011, the State Department cleared an enormous arms deal: Led by Boeing, a consortium of American defense contractors would deliver $29 billion worth of advanced fighter jets to Saudi Arabia, despite concerns over the kingdom's troublesome human rights record. In the years before Hillary Clinton became secretary of state, Saudi Arabia had contributed $10 million to the Clinton Foundation, and just two months before the jet deal was finalized, Boeing donated $900,000 to the Clinton Foundation, according to an International Business Times investigation released Tuesday.

The Saudi transaction is just one example of nations and companies that had donated to the Clinton Foundation seeing an increase in arms deals while Hillary Clinton oversaw the State Department. IBT found that between October 2010 and September 2012, State approved $165 billion in commercial arms sales to 20 nations that had donated to the foundation, plus another $151 billion worth of Pentagon-brokered arms deals to 16 of those countries—a 143 percent increase over the same time frame under the Bush Administration. The sales boosted the military power of authoritarian regimes such as Qatar, Algeria, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, and Oman, which, like Saudi Arabia, had been criticized by the department for human rights abuses.
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
It's interesting that the strategy against HRC seems to be to focus on email and her allegedly having head trauma, whereas against Obama there was a much wider ranging palette of assault. I'm also surprised that ties to the Clinton foundation isn't a regular part of the rotation.
All this garbage about her health has stemmed from a single photo of someone helping her up some steps as far as I can tell. If anything they are using everything they possibly can do bitch about HRC, but all they have is Emails! and Crooked!
Thats it. So they've clutched at the next thing they could find any traction for whatsoever. In a week or two someone will see that she's wearing a pair of Nikes and then she'll be to blame for all the sweatshops in India, or she'll be seen smiling near a Mercedes and then we won't stop hearing about how she's in a socialist femiNazi book club with Angela Merkel and Theresa May. And Justin Trudeau sometimes attends dressed as a Mountie and gives them all lap dances.

You heard it here first.
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As far as you can tell? These stories have been around since 2009. You don't seem to grasp US law very well either.
     
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Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
If I remember correctly , Dr Drew was the one that pointed out that coumidan is rat poison. I looked it up just to make sure.
...and chocolate is dog poison. I guess you think Hillary (and a lot of other Americans) have dumb doctors now?
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
...and chocolate is dog poison. I guess you think Hillary (and a lot of other Americans) have dumb doctors now?
You need to talk to Dr Pinsky. He's the one questioning her treatment with outdated drugs. He stated there are newer anticoagulants. I was on Plavix for over year and required no monitoring, Coumadin does. BasKosh posted that Obama's doctor has called for Hillary to undergo neurological testing.
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Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post
As far as you can tell? These stories have been around since 2009. You don't seem to grasp US law very well either.
What did I say that had legal bearing?
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Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
BadKosh posted that Obama's doctor has called for Hillary to undergo neurological testing.
Yes I noticed that he posted from that site he never reads. Again.
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Aug 31, 2016, 03:03 PM
 
they may be newer, but the studies don't show that they are more effective. I can dig around for a more recent study, but IANAD. Dr. Pinsky and Hillary's doctor could have a chat though.

plavix = clopidogrel antiplatelet therapy
warfarin = anticoagulation therapy

Oral anticoagulation therapy is the standard for preventing stroke in patients with atrial fibrillation (AF). Aspirin, the alternative for warfarin-ineligible AF patients, is less effective than warfarin for stroke prevention (JAMA 2002; 288:2441). In a new, industry-sponsored trial, researchers randomized 6706 AF patients (mean age, 70; 66% men) with at least one stroke risk factor to receive dual antiplatelet therapy — clopidogrel (75 mg/day) plus aspirin (75–100 mg/day) — or oral anticoagulation therapy, usually warfarin (target INR, 2–3). Baseline use of other medications (ACE inhibitors in 54%, ARBs in 15%, beta-blockers in 57%, digoxin in 37%, and statins in 38%) was similar in the two groups. The primary endpoint was the first incident stroke, non-CNS systemic embolism, MI, or vascular death.

The study was stopped early, at a median follow-up of 1.3 years, because oral anticoagulation was clearly better than clopidogrel plus aspirin, as shown by annual incidences of the primary endpoint (3.9% vs. 5.6%; P<0.0003) and any stroke (1.4% vs. 2.4%; P<0.001). Major bleeding incidence was similar in the two groups (2.2%–2.4%), but oral anticoagulation was associated with significantly more hemorrhagic strokes (0.36% vs. 0.12%) and fewer minor bleeds (11.5% vs. 13.6%).
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The efficacy of long-term dual antiplatelet therapy was disappointing in this trial, as was the on-treatment incidence of major bleeding. Although the findings are limited by lower-than-expected rates of events overall and of stroke specifically, warfarin remains the gold standard for preventing stroke in AF patients at increased risk for embolic events. Still, the search for safer options must continue.
     
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Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
Huma, should Hillary win,is most likely to be named chief of staff.
Yeah, I thought about that after the recent Weiner debacle, but then, there's Hillary herself...

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Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
You need to talk to Dr Pinsky. He's the one questioning her treatment with outdated drugs. He stated there are newer anticoagulants. I was on Plavix for over year and required no monitoring, Coumadin does. BasKosh posted that Obama's doctor has called for Hillary to undergo neurological testing.
I'm questioning you because you're eating it up. Don't try to pawn me off onto him just because you can't backup his claims you've adopted.
     
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I really should have known better.
     
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I heard they also prescribed leeches, bloodlettings, and a few holes drilled into her head (aka. trepanning), just for good measure. Very progressive. I hope they also checked her menstrual blood and astrology chart, because it might be a case of female hysteria and she needs to have her womb massaged.

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I'm questioning you because you're eating it up. Don't try to pawn me off onto him just because you can't backup his claims you've adopted.
I don't need to "pawn you off" on Dr Drew. You don't like the fact that there are doctors who are part of the vast alt-left wing conspiracy who have broken ranks and dare to question Hillary's health. Obama's own doctor expressed concern.
Obama's former doctor: Clinton should have neurological exam | TheHill
During an interview on CNN, Dr. David Scheiner argued that Clinton’s note from her doctor isn’t enough. The letter details that Clinton had follow-up testing in 2013 that showed a full recovery from a concussion and that she tested negative for clotting disorders.
“I think she should have had a neurological examination, a thorough neurological examination in 2016,” Scheiner said Tuesday night. “We know what happens to football players who have had concussions, how they begin to lose some of their cognitive ability. I think both of them should release their records.”
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Ouch.
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How many press conferences are typical for a typical candidate? How many did Bush Sr. have, or Carter?

Not sure it's relevant. She's still in the news. Trump for all his media bashing, loves to talk about himself.
     
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Is that Dana? I liked him when I used to watch Olbermann.
     
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Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
How many press conferences are typical for a typical candidate? How many did Bush Sr. have, or Carter?

Not sure it's relevant. She's still in the news. Trump for all his media bashing, loves to talk about himself.
Do you think Hillary really wants to answer 100's of questions about possible perjury charges, Clinton Foundation pay for play emails etc? Then there's the chance she'll have another "cold chai brain freeze" when she's simultaneously peppered with questions and camera flashes.
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As an aside, they usually try to light press conferences so flashes aren't needed.

I know someone who worked in DC back in the day, and he said the President must be lit to something ridiculous like 300 foot candles. That's really well lit.
     
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More blurring of lines, this time involving Bubba.
Report: Bill Clinton used tax money on foundation, email server | TheHill
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More blurring of lines, this time involving Bubba.
Report: Bill Clinton used tax money on foundation, email server | TheHill
This is the type of stuff ... like Hillary's private email server ... that I call a self-inflicted wound. Do they simply not have any aides around them that say "You know what boss? I'm not saying this is 'illegal' ... but it's just not a good look. You really ought to reconsider." Or do they just ignore prudent advice like that?

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I want to know why some people let the notion pass of the Iraq war being justified because it was based on the best intelligence that Bush had at the time, yet do not let Hillary pass on the advice she received about her emailing?

I'm not excusing her, but is there a big fundamental difference here?
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
I want to know why some people let the notion pass of the Iraq war being justified because it was based on the best intelligence that Bush had at the time, yet do not let Hillary pass on the advice she received about her emailing?

I'm not excusing her, but is there a big fundamental difference here?


She's a Democrat, they're supposed to follow the rules and not do stupid things because they're supposed to be smart. Republicans are allowed expected to be dumb, lying, hypocrite assholes. Thats what they do.
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Projecting again?
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I kind of feel like there has been a role shift.

Democrats fixate over 932040294 things that Trump has said and done similar to how Republicans tried 239283094 things to see what would take down Obama, whereas Republicans have an autistic-like focus on a few special interests of theirs involving Clinton (email, Benghazi, her concussion) that they just keep coming back to.

What's sad is that we aren't talking about what we have done to get a Trump as a nominee, and the bigger picture of alleged corruption that seems systemic in our political system. The latter is a much bigger picture issue than just email documents.
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
What's sad is that we aren't talking about what we have done to get a Trump as a nominee
So no one has talked about Trump being a bigoted, racist, sexist, homophobic, anti-Semitic fascist?

Or how his supporters are white nationalist, white supremacist, alt-right, KKK, neo-Nazi sympathizers?
     
 
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