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Nov 15, 2006, 01:18 AM
 
Hi. I just switched from PC to Mac and have whittled my issues down to 2 (until I find something else).

1. Universal Binary Screensavers - I want to get some cool Screensavers on the iMac but when I click "download" I get a bunch of code on my screen. Or, it plants odd little icons on my desktop that don't do much of anything. Actually, I get odd little tidbits of icons, etc. when I load ANYTHING but at least they load. Can anyone advise how to get these screen savers up? Like from here Really Slick Screensavers

2. Print 'Selection' - Yiipes! This one made me get teary today. I need to highlight a section of email or webpage and print that selection. Not the whole page. I have to do this all day. Tons of times. I'm really freeking out about this. I know I can do it the hard/time-consuming way, but it's going to be a nightmare. I searched and found a little code, but it doesn't work. Would anyone have a REAL work around to this problem that is as easy to do as it is in Windows? I just want to highlight something and print it in as little steps as possible.

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Nov 15, 2006, 01:48 AM
 
1)The Mac OS X screensavers on that site worked for me. So, I don't know what to tell you.
2)You could copy and paste. You could also press command+shift+4, then use the crosshairs to select what you want printed, then right-click (control-click) on the new image file on your desktop, then click print.
     
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Nov 15, 2006, 02:31 AM
 
OK, here's the thing..... I get an email that's 2-3 pages long each day. Dozens upon dozens of them. I need to print 1 paragraph from each of those emails. This has to be done a zillion times a day. I have no idea how a $2000 computer/software doesn't include this very basic task.
There must be a script or something to tweak this to windows goodness?

Tuoder - Mind if you tell me how you loaded those savers? I can't get one to even get in downloadable form.
     
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Nov 15, 2006, 04:14 AM
 
1. Those screensavers look as though they are open source software. Have you been downloading the compiled version (which should just install when double clicked, once it has been decompressed) or have you been downloading the source code?

2. If you are using Mail or another Services aware application (so Firefox and Thunderbird won't be able to do this):

     
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Nov 15, 2006, 04:30 AM
 
1. Screensavers - I can't download anything on that site. I see nothing to download. Double clicking on the screensaver pic does nothing of course. Then I go to the 'downloads page' and click on the link by the authors name (nick ziltsman) which brings up a long page of text. At the bottom of that page there are some links to "download helios" for instance. Clicking on that does nothing. Then I see above that that it suggests loading an unzipper thing. I click on that to load that and then it tells me I can't load THAT because I have to choose an Application and at this point I have no idea what it wants me to do. I've spent over an hour on this.

Did you load that "Print Selection" into your 'services'? I had to load that in mine. It doesn't work for me. It pulls up a new window with the blurb in it but it's unreadable, garbled, and the text is the width of 1 letter so a mere 2 sentances is 15 pages long.
My other issue with selecting/highlighting text in Mail is it will only let me highlight a header OR the body. Not both. These are emails from Ebay with pictures, etc. in it. Maybe if I turn that off I can make it work, but again - no clue how to fix that.

OMG! That little print selection program doesn't show in my Firefox Services. You're right! OMG! How is it that Apple hasn't fixed this problem? I see it works in Safari. It's still a bad workaround for a simple task. There must be some type of program one can create for this. I assume Leopard will fix this?
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Nov 15, 2006, 05:37 AM
 
Originally Posted by meagain View Post
1. Screensavers - I can't download anything on that site. I see nothing to download. Double clicking on the screensaver pic does nothing of course. Then I go to the 'downloads page' and click on the link by the authors name (nick ziltsman) which brings up a long page of text. At the bottom of that page there are some links to "download helios" for instance. Clicking on that does nothing. Then I see above that that it suggests loading an unzipper thing. I click on that to load that and then it tells me I can't load THAT because I have to choose an Application and at this point I have no idea what it wants me to do. I've spent over an hour on this.
Egads, what links are you clicking on there? Here's what I did: followed your link to "Really Slick Screensavers", clicked the Downloads link, found the ones listed as being for OS X on the downloads page, clicked on one of the links in the Screensavers column (I clicked the "Field Lines, Helios, Hyperspace, Skyrocket" link cause Hyperspace looked interesting), which lead me to a Comcast user page where I found the "Download Hyperspace" link at the bottom. It downloads a .dmg.gz file which expands and mounts in the Finder allowing me to double-click the Hyperspace.saver file, installing the screensaver (alternately I could have moved the .saver file to ~/Library/Screen Savers).

JKT: where'd you get the "Print Selection" service from? I don't have anything like that.
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Nov 15, 2006, 11:14 AM
 
Yes, went to 'downloads' page, clicked on the bottom osx guy's link. Got an ugly font text page where "download Hyperspace" was at the bottom - clicked that link. It pulls up a LONG page of code for it. ??? (EDIT: I might have figured it out)

I have the print selection link for you if you give me a minute.

EDIT: LookSmart's Furl - View Item - macosxhints.com - Print selected text from any application I'm still looking for better ways to do this. It's not great.
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Nov 15, 2006, 12:24 PM
 
I figured out the screensavers, but found another pile of downloads that I can't open.

The print downloads/demos that feature Print Selection. MacEase
When I try to download, they open my Mail and dump a link in a new mail message that I can't get to 'do' anything.

Is there no standard for how things are downloaded? Seems everywhere I go there are odd extension names and a zillion ways to get things downloaded.
     
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Nov 15, 2006, 12:45 PM
 
1. Following links from the screen saver site, half of them (Universal binaries) are here, at the bottom of the page. Download the actual screen savers—not the source code. The other half (also Universal) are here, halfway down under the heading "Mac OS X Screen Savers." Again, you're gonna want to download the archives and not the source. Enjoy!

2. Print Selection service can be downloaded here. The 55KB link at the bottom the says Print Selection Service? Bingo!
     
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Nov 15, 2006, 12:56 PM
 
Right - when I click on archives, it brings up a window to "open" in Stuffit, or "save to disk". I've tried both then went to the desktop where the weird icon is to open that and it keeps tellling me there is no application associated with this program and I need to choose an application. That's where I get lost.

Same with the print programs on MacEase. Can't figure that one out either. I've no clue what my problem is. I wonder if I should set up thiis computer to more easily download stuff. IDK.
     
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Nov 15, 2006, 03:09 PM
 
Have you tried setting them to all open with OS X's BOMArchiver from the Get Info window? Try that instead of using StuffIt. What version of OS X do you have?
     
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Nov 15, 2006, 04:06 PM
 
I have ver. 10.4.8 Not sure what this Boma is, but I don't see it in my computer. Nor a "get info" link anywhere. I'll keep looking around. Maybe I don't have them.
     
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Nov 15, 2006, 05:07 PM
 
Originally Posted by Apfhex View Post
JKT: where'd you get the "Print Selection" service from? I don't have anything like that.
My bad, I hadn't remembered that I installed a third party Service for that. MindFad supplies the link.
     
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Nov 15, 2006, 05:12 PM
 
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Nor a "get info" link anywhere. I'll keep looking around. Maybe I don't have them.
Select a file in the Finder and either press command-I or select File>Get Info from the menubar or select Get Info from the contextual menu:



Bomarchivehelper is one of the Core Services and is the application responsible for unzipping, etc downloaded .zip or .tar, etc. files. If it is possible to use for a download, it will be one of the options offered in the Open with... menu:

     
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Nov 15, 2006, 05:17 PM
 
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OMG! That little print selection program doesn't show in my Firefox Services. You're right! OMG! How is it that Apple hasn't fixed this problem? I see it works in Safari. It's still a bad workaround for a simple task. There must be some type of program one can create for this. I assume Leopard will fix this?
The problem isn't Apple, it is the developers of Firefox. They need to code their programme to make it Services aware but they haven't (and this is one of the main reasons why some people don't like Firefox on OS X compared to other browsers). If they had, you would be able to use any Service in Firefox.
     
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Nov 15, 2006, 05:27 PM
 
Looking at the files at the MacEase website, they are compressed as .sit.hqx files (binhexed stuffit files). You need to use StuffIt Expander: Free file expansion. to decompress them - install it if you don't have it already. The process requires two stages - the first to, I don't know how to put this properly, un-binhex it (which will leave you with a .sit file) and the second to decompress it (which will leave you with the final installer files which will be contained within a folder. Stuffit should do both stages automatically, but check the Stuffit Expander>Preferences to make sure this is set up correctly.
     
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Nov 15, 2006, 05:34 PM
 
There are downsides to having new Mac users.

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Nov 15, 2006, 05:37 PM
 
I did a search of Finder and the only thing I see is something called:

com.apple.bomarchivehelper.plist If I click on it, it brings up OmniOutliner with some text in the box that makes no sense. I might cry soon.
     
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Nov 15, 2006, 05:39 PM
 
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Is there no standard for how things are downloaded? Seems everywhere I go there are odd extension names and a zillion ways to get things downloaded.
It is a historical thing and a clash of cultures.

Historically: .sit and .hqx are hangovers from the days of OS 9 and earlier (the "Classic" Mac OS) and should have died a deserved death a long time ago. I don't know why some developers insist on still using these, but they do. The only reason to use them would be if you were developing software for both OS 9 and OS X.

Clash of cultures: .tar, .gz, etc are *NIX compression formats and are favoured by Open Source Software developers and *NIX developers. Because OS X is based on a form of *NIX, it has inherited people who were *NIX people in the past and they tend to use their prior preferences for archiving and compressing files.

What people should use:

.zip is the new archiving "standard" for OS X

.dmg is a disk image and has a specialised purpose of providing the end user with a "virtual" disk of the software.

FWIW, this is no different to Windows where software could come in a multitude of formats depending on the source.

Edit: Note, .sit is a proprietary format and that is the reason why it shouldn't be used. You have to have proprietary software (Stuffit Expander) to decompress it.
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I did a search of Finder and the only thing I see is something called:

com.apple.bomarchivehelper.plist If I click on it, it brings up OmniOutliner with some text in the box that makes no sense. I might cry soon.
You don't need to look for it, it will be offered as one of the options when you use Open With...



However, I suspect that your problem is occurring because you don't have Stuffit Expander installed. Download and install Stuffit Expander and use it to open any .sit or .hqx files you download. Without it, you will not be able to expand .sit files:



Edit: FWIW, a .plist is a property list which is a store of your preferences for an application. You need Property List Editor from the Developer tools to view them, which isn't installed by default (because you don't really need to look at them).
     
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Nov 15, 2006, 05:58 PM
 
JKT - When I click on a download and I select the "Open With" - my only option is "Stuffit Expander (default)". There are no other options in that drop down box. Is my computer deformed out of the box?

This is what I'm trying to load right now: PrintMagic For OS X Download

1. If I open it using Stuffit (only option), it opens MAIL and dumps the link in a new email. Clicking does nothing of course.

2. If I save to disk, it dumps an .hqx icon on my desktop. Left clicking again opens it in an email, Right clicking to hit 'open' does the same. Right clicking to hit 'open with' only gives me 3 options: Mail, Mail, and other. If I hit "other" it dumps a link into an email. LOL!!!
     
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Nov 15, 2006, 08:49 PM
 
I would imagine that you have a problem with your Launch Services (either they have become corrupted, or you have inadvertently set the wrong apps to open files - probably the former).

Log out of your account (Apple menu>Log Out <username>...) and then log back in again, except, hold down the shift key as you click the log in button (keep it held down until the log in has finished). This will cause the OS to log in using Safe mode (third party extensions and any log in items will be disabled) and will also move certain cache files to the Trash, including the Launch Services cache. Log back out and back in again, this time without holding down the shift key so that you log in normally.

See if that solves your problems. FWIW, you can then empty the trash to delete the various system files that have been put there.
     
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Nov 15, 2006, 10:32 PM
 
Wow - I think there's something seriously wrong with this computer. I highlighted your post to print. Ooops! I'm in Firefox and can't. I then tried to open it in "TextEdit" but instead the little blank notepage was basically dead but kept being labeled as "Finder". Finally I figured I'd post it in an email to myself - send it then print. Then magically, I was able to get TextEdit to run in TextEdit where it's supposed to be - then printed.

I have a ton of stuff in the trash. It'll be nice to get rid of it.
     
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Nov 16, 2006, 12:06 AM
 
I'm running torrents right now so I need to hold off till this is done.
Will doing the above screw up anything? Delete anything I need?
     
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Nov 16, 2006, 10:59 AM
 
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I'm running torrents right now so I need to hold off till this is done.
Will doing the above screw up anything? Delete anything I need?
That what JKT described? No, do it! It sounds like you really have some kind of messed up system and that up there should help you!


Btw, you said you figured it out on your own but what exactly did you do to download the screensavers?
The problem is that the files are .gz files and safari does not know that this are files that you want to download -> if you just click them, safari will start to load the code instead!
If you see .gz files then right-click to download them!
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The problem is that the files are .gz files and safari does not know that this are files that you want to download -> if you just click them, safari will start to load the code instead!
Safari knows exactly what to do with files according to the MIME-type. If it loads a file as text where it shouldn't, then there is a server misconfiguration where the file is sent with the text MIME-type. Safari's behavior is absolutely correct though.
     
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Nov 16, 2006, 01:59 PM
 
OK - Sometimes I'll try to download something and it OPENS my trial of Office for Mac. Mostly Excel, but I had a Word today. Sometimes, it'll dump a link in an email. Or just do something invisible. Everytime I AM successful, there are a zillion traces of odd little files all over my desktop, in my finder, applications, etc.

And in the "OMG - what was I thinking" category, yesterday I loaded Azureus torrent and tried to get that darned Electric Sheep thing going. OMG! LOL What a disaster. My husband showed me how he does torrents on his Windows Laptop and it was so easy.

I'm going to do the logout/in thing right now. I'm scared!
     
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Scared?

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Nov 16, 2006, 02:18 PM
 
I lost Firefox with all my bookmarks. Can't find it anywhere. Not sure what else is gone.

I still can't load this example program: PrintMagic For OS X Download Am I the only one? It dumped a .sit.hqx, a demo.sit, on my laptop. Clicking on them opens "Mail". LOL WTF would it do that for?
I'd be curious if anyone can actually download this program - how the heck they are doing it. I guess I'm not even sure what would be "correct behavior" for it, but I know I don't think it should open an email.

What's sad? I was in MicroCenter looking at Macs with the salesman. It was nice. No one was there. In walks this guy who was a techy Mac smarty. Totally into showing me cool things. I sure wish I had gotten that guy's number. I fear the Mac store cuz when I was there, they lacked some information that I felt they should've had. I already called them about their "getting started" classes and it seems it won't address my issues. The other alternative is to pay $100 for (whatever it's called) which allows 1 on 1 time. But boy, I'd sure like to avoid that. Just gotta get over this hump (loading files and where this computer is putting them) and I think I'll be ok. IDK
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Would anyone know why I lost Firefox and where I should put it and other files/programs to avoid losing them when I log off? I think I have to manually put things in right places cuz the computer puts them in wrong places such as downloading a program to only open in Excel (which started my free test drive that I was saving). I just don't want to lose my bookmarks again.
     
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Nov 16, 2006, 03:51 PM
 
I'm on the phone with support. He keeps telling me that the files I want to load like this one: PrintMagic For OS X Download are not designed for mac or not compatible. This of course is not true. I said others are using this and he said I have the intel version and they probably don't. I'm being transferred.

He told me to use grab for copying sections of my email to print.

He was unable to answer why I cann't highlight the header/title AND body of emails. Why I can only highlight one or the other as if there's an invisible barrier between the 2 sections.

I searched all over the apple site support area and can't find ANYTHING on downloading programs. I feel sorry for others like me who buy macs.
     
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Nov 16, 2006, 04:03 PM
 
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Why I can only highlight one or the other as if there's an invisible barrier between the 2 sections.

I searched all over the apple site support area and can't find ANYTHING on downloading programs. I feel sorry for others like me who buy macs.
Mail, it seems, doesn't let you select both the header and the body of the message if you start selecting from the header downwards. If you start the selection from the bottom of the message upwards, it lets you select the header. Also "Select All" works. That's how it is on my system.

The problems you have with downloading files aren't normal. Something is wrong with your system. You don't just "loose" files when logging out. Might have to reinstall OS X. Have you tried creating a new user account to see if the problems are there as well?
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Nov 16, 2006, 04:15 PM
 
LOL! He's telling me the lack of print selection in macs is due to copyright and ms didn't design this feature - they hired it out. LOL! Ok.

Now getting song/dance about loading 3rd party software and they can't support it. "But I can't even download a fricking screensaver!" "We don't support that" "But it's not the real issue, I believe my computer isn't downloading properly and or dumping things all over the place".
Then my phone battery went dead. I cried. I never cry.

Then he called me back (thank god my other phone works). I gave him the link to this printmagic above. He opened it right up. Mine opens Mail (which wasn't open), opens a new email page and dumps link in.
He claims that I have an old version of Stuffit and I should go to stuffit website and download the new version. I asked how the heck could I buy a NEW computer 5 days ago and it have old crap on it? How would I have known? He said it's not Apple's responsibility to keep your computer up to date on non-apple software. OH..... MY...... GOD.....
Not sure how Stuffit plays a part when he told me to 'save to disk' and not Select Stuffer unless Stuffit is omnipresent!?

I hung up on him cuz he started rambling.

Anyone want to bet me that getting the new version of Stuffit doesn't fix the problem? I'm not feeling the Mac love vibe right now.

(EDIT: I searched on "Stuffit" in 'Finder' and find nothing. Would anyone know if there's a way to find it elsewhere? I fear if it's not here, that I won't be able to download Stuffit. If that makes sense).
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Nov 16, 2006, 05:20 PM
 
!!!!! As of ver. 10.4 Stuffit is NOT on new Macs! :o After 5 days of messing around with this 24/7 and being in sheer hell & confusion - my downloading problem is solved. WTH?!
To sweeten the pot, the words "Stuffit Expander (default)" appear in the window when loading a download fooling one to believe it exists. Way to mess with my head Apple!
Oh, and customer support? You might want to take a note of that instead of telling people (blowing it off) by repeatedly that you don't give support to 3rd party downloads (which I never asked for).

Now I have to clean up my system, learn how to set it up to properly dump things in the right places, and settle this 'Print - selection' issue.

I will now be having a coctail. I will be back. I appreciate all your help and telling me that something is indeed missing and I'm not losing my mind.
     
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Nov 16, 2006, 06:23 PM
 
I already told you that your problem was that you probably didn't have Stuffit Expander and to download it twice before.

Anyway. Firefox probably disappeared because it came on a .dmg and you didn't install it properly. If an application is delivered as a .dmg, you have to drag it from the window that opens once you mount the disk image (by clicking the .dmg file to open it) to your Applications folder so that it is copied to your hard drive. The way to conceptualise this is that disk images are virtual CDs - when you put a CD in, you would copy the files from it to your hard drive to install them. Note that disk images will automatically be ejected when you restart or log out, hence they will disappear.

Search for Firefox and locate the .dmg file that you originally downloaded from mozilla.org. Double click it to mount the disk image and then drag the Firefox icon from the window that opens to your Applications folder. Eject the disk image by dragging it to the trash can in the Dock. Then open the copy of Firefox you have now installed in your applications folder. Your bookmarks will probably be there as the preferences etc will have been stored in your user /Library/ folder from the prior usage.

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Nov 16, 2006, 06:58 PM
 
Yes, but I thought the main problem was Bomarchiver. Oh well. I'm having a beer now so I imagine I'll be better with reading comprehension due to lack of panic.

Yes, I figured FireFox wasn't properly installed. Will try what you said.

It's funny, everything I downloaded to fix the print selection issue with the new Stuffit, loads but won't let me run them because it's claiming I renamed the files. There's so much garbage on my computer that I can't even see straight.
     
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Nov 16, 2006, 07:44 PM
 
I'm so sorry JKT..... I really appreciate your help.... Um... I found the .dmg file in my finder. I moved it to Applications. I show firefox stuff in applications support (2) , applications (1 with icon), cookies, something in the trash, the .dmg file in applications, and a plist in preferences.

I also have firefox in my dock and on the desktop in the form of the logo over a harddrive. I'll log out and in to see if it worked.
     
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Nov 16, 2006, 07:54 PM
 
I logged out then in - lost firefox. Trying again: I found the .dmg file. Opened it, grabbed the firefox icon to the applications word in 'finder'. It now says I have 2 in there. I don't understand what I'm supposed to eject. I also have a folder on my desktop that says Firefox for some reason.

I'm going to try logging out/in again. Is there any way to stop this machine from duplicating programs? And renaming them? I've got all attempts to load one program in my finder from the past 3 days.
     
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Nov 16, 2006, 09:13 PM
 
Originally Posted by meagain View Post
I logged out then in - lost firefox.
You fell into a common trap (every Mac newbie does – installing applications on Mac is overly confusing). Read my post on this topic in the following thread:

http://forums.macnn.com/90/mac-os-x/...s/#post3153353
     
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Nov 16, 2006, 09:15 PM
 
OK, looking at the way I phrased my instructions, I see why you did what you did, but that wasn't what I meant.

Let's start from scratch:

Open your Applications folder and delete anything that says Firefox on it.

More than likely you are downloading things to your desktop by default. Personally, as you are getting yourself confused, I would create a Downloads folder on the Desktop using the Finder:



Open your browser preferences (I'll use Safari as the example):





You will have to select Other... and then pick the newly created Downloads folder that is on your Desktop as the folder to download things into. That way all your downloads will be kept separate from other files and you will find it easier to manage them.

Next, visit Mozilla - Home of the Firefox web browser and Thunderbird email client and re-download Firefox. It will arrive as a .dmg file:



In the Finder, double click the file called Firefox 2.0.dmg to mount the disk image - a window like this will appear:



I assume that you have been running Firefox in the past by double-clicking that icon. This means you have been running it off the disk image rather than installing it on your hard drive. The disk image is the thing that mounts on your Desktop and looks like this:



OK, getting back to the window that opens when you mount the disk image, the not totally clear imagery that Mozilla have used is meant to show you that you need to drag and drop the Firefox application to your Applications folder to install it. First of all, click the pill in the top right of the window (blue arrow below) to convert it into a proper Finder window so that you can see your Applications folder in the sidebar (red arrow):



Grab the Firefox application and drag it to your Applications folder in the sidebar. Note the green plus sign which means it is going to create a copy there. Drop the Firefox application icon onto the Applications folder to install Firefox. A dialogue will appear showing that you are copying Firefox. Once the copy has finished, you will see the Firefox icon in your Applications folder:



You have now successfully installed Firefox. However, you need to eject the disk image and delete the .dmg file to complete things. Go to your desktop and drag the Disk Image to the trash in the Dock (which will switch to an Eject icon):



Once you have ejected the disk image, open your downloads folder on your desktop and delete the Firefox 2.0.dmg file. Empty your trash.

Now double click on the Firefox icon in your Applications folder to launch Firefox and once launched, from the contextual menu of the icon in the Dock, select Keep in Dock (mine says Remove as I have already done this before I took the screenshot):



Now, you can just click the Firefox icon when you want to launch it in the future.
     
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Nov 17, 2006, 12:08 AM
 
JKT - AWESOME! This makes sense now. Whew! I'd never figure that one out in a million years. Never. There's many thing's I learned with this besides proper loading. Like "the pill thing". Maybe now I can clean things up and get those darned print selection programs to work so I can test them out. I've printed this.

Tet - Thanks for that link. I've printed that thread out for reading tonight.

Thank you All! Um... but I might be back soon. LOL
     
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Nov 17, 2006, 02:41 AM
 
Wooo! I am downloading like a beast now! Some of the screensavers go a bit rampant on me but with Stuffit and the above instructions (and better understanding of the flow), things are getting in the right places and sticking.

I downloaded iPrint from MacEase and can highlight text in mail and hit ctl option P to print it. Perhaps I can make a shorter shortcut. Ooops. Doesn't work in FireFox.. Will have to try another.

Oddly though, I can't highlight the header (to/from/subject line) in email WITH the body. I've tried starting at the top and starting from the bottom. It's the damndest thing, but I 'might' be able to get by as is. THANKS AGAIN GUYS!!!
     
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Nov 17, 2006, 04:11 AM
 
Yea the whole load .dmg then drag app to the applications folder can be a little confusing for a Mac newb, and hard on us Mac pros to explain to someone who is used to the Windows setup.exe way of doing things.

Ultimately the mac way is superior because you know exactly what you are installing on your computer.
     
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Nov 17, 2006, 08:00 AM
 
Originally Posted by macintologist View Post
Yea the whole load .dmg then drag app to the applications folder can be a little confusing for a Mac newb, and hard on us Mac pros to explain to someone who is used to the Windows setup.exe way of doing things.

Ultimately the mac way is superior because you know exactly what you are installing on your computer.
Not only that, you also know where you are installing it and you can easily select the location too.
     
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Nov 17, 2006, 10:13 AM
 
Originally Posted by JKT View Post
Not only that, you also know where you are installing it and you can easily select the location too.
And you can try an app without installing it. And you don't have to uninstall. and not everyone does it this way, which makes me sad.
     
   
 
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