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Cold Warrior · Nov 3, 2007, 02:20 PM

you can drop images into the sidebar, then select them all (cmd-a) and then print (save as pdf. It'll automatically enlarge the images to the page size; however, you can just click 'scale' instead of 'scale to fit' in order to keep it at default size.

I saw no option to save/export as a QT format.

rubaiyat · Nov 3, 2007, 02:27 PM

The printed series of images are a multi-page pdf?

Sorry to ask as I haven't installed it yet and will wait till the dust settles.

IMHO this is too many steps anyway and not obvious.

shinji · Nov 3, 2007, 03:16 PM

Spotlight doesn't replace Quicksilver/LaunchBar, though it is pretty fast and pretty accurate as to what you mean by the first couple letters.

But in LaunchBar for example, you can invoke it, then type wiki, space, and a search term and it opens a browser window with that term looked up in wikipedia. Same for Google or whatever else you want to add, just with * as a wildcard where the keyword goes. I'm sure Quicksilver has something similar. Using Quicksilver/Launchbar just as an app launcher is a waste and you might as well only use spotlight.

And once the Leopard-friendly version of SuperDuper comes out, I will use that instead of Time Machine.

Cold Warrior · Nov 3, 2007, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by rubaiyat

The printed series of images are a multi-page pdf?

IMHO this is too many steps anyway and not obvious.

Yes, the series of images, if dropped into the sidebar (or opened en masse from the Finder) can Print>Save as PDF into a single, multi-page PDF document.

As for being 'not obvious' — I didn't read any documentation. It seemed perfectly obvious and logical to try that method if Preview 3 could do it. If it didn't work, it would reason that it couldn't do it. So I tried, and it works.

jokell82 · Nov 3, 2007, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by shinji

Spotlight doesn't replace Quicksilver/LaunchBar, though it is pretty fast and pretty accurate as to what you mean by the first couple letters.

But in LaunchBar for example, you can invoke it, then type wiki, space, and a search term and it opens a browser window with that term looked up in wikipedia. Same for Google or whatever else you want to add, just with * as a wildcard where the keyword goes. I'm sure Quicksilver has something similar. Using Quicksilver/Launchbar just as an app launcher is a waste and you might as well only use spotlight.

And once the Leopard-friendly version of SuperDuper comes out, I will use that instead of Time Machine.

Firefox already does that, so I don't need Launchbar or Quicksilver to do it. Spotlight is perfect as an app launcher.

shinji · Nov 3, 2007, 07:18 PM

Well if you're already in Firefox, you might as well just use the wikipedia drop-down search and look it up. QS/LB let you do it from any window.

But yeah, for people who only used them as app launchers, spotlight is all you need now.

jokell82 · Nov 3, 2007, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by shinji

Well if you're already in Firefox, you might as well just use the wikipedia drop-down search and look it up. QS/LB let you do it from any window.

But yeah, for people who only used them as app launchers, spotlight is all you need now.

It's even easier than that if you have a bookmark set up. All I have to do is type "wiki" then whatever I want to go direct to the wikipedia search. Very nice feature.

.Neo · Nov 3, 2007, 10:22 PM

Stickies!

cgc · Nov 3, 2007, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Kar98

Sorry, Chuckit. Instantaneous here.

Not instantaneous on my MacPro although LaunchBar is.

Simon · Nov 4, 2007, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by jokell82

It's even easier than that if you have a bookmark set up. All I have to do is type "wiki" then whatever I want to go direct to the wikipedia search. Very nice feature.

I was thinking exactly the same thing.

You people don't need QS/LB to launch web searches, what you need is good old Spotlight and smart bookmarks. Here's a simple example to search Wikipedia:
[codex]javascript:q=prompt(%22Search%20Wikipedia:%22,%22% 22);if(q)location.href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/'+escape(q);[/codex]

So no matter what I'm doing on my Mac, when I want to look up something on WP I just hit cmd-space for Spotlight, enter WP (that's the name of the above mentioned bookmark) and then the search query. My hands never leave the keyboard, it's very fast, it works right out of the box, and it doesn't cost a cent.

shinji · Nov 4, 2007, 04:17 AM

It was just an example...Launchbar and Quicksilver do a lot more than that. Sure, there's workarounds and you could create lots of javascript bookmarks, use a separate app for controlling itunes like synergy, use terminal for manipulating files/appending text, etc. but it's nice to have one intuitive, quick app for doing all of it in one place.

goMac · Nov 4, 2007, 04:44 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Yeah I am getting 10.5 for work JUST BECAUSE of Time Machine

I've been running Time Machine at work for the past 3 months. Honestly, it's been great. My only issue has been crappy LaCie drive quality. (At work we got a bunch of free Quadra drives. My first one died and my second one is sounding like it is on the way out...)

Kevin · Nov 4, 2007, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by cgc

Not instantaneous on my MacPro although LaunchBar is.

If it's not, we are talking about .00345 of a second. Not enough to really make a difference either way. It's mostly psychosomatic. The less 3rd party crap I have running on my systems at all times, the better it performs, and the more stable it is.

analogika · Nov 4, 2007, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

It's mostly psychosomatic.

(might wanna look that one up)

Kevin · Nov 4, 2007, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by cgc

Not instantaneous on my MacPro although LaunchBar is.

Originally Posted by analogika

(might wanna look that one up)

Disorders whose symptoms are caused by mental processes of the sufferer rather than immediate physiological causes.

Meaning the speed differences they notice it's all in their head.

While I know what you are referring to. I used the word on purpose.

People that garner a emotional attachment to a piece of software IMHO have issues. Unless of course they coded the program themselves.

When your head starts seeing things being much faster than they actually are because of said attachment, it's mostly all in your head.

analogika · Nov 4, 2007, 07:51 AM

"Psychosomatic" refers to bodily symptoms, not external perception.

It's inappropriate (actually, downright wrong) usage, that's all.

You meant "psychological".

Kevin · 08:49 AM

No I didn't mean psychological. I explained myself pretty thoroughly.

I used the term I used for a reason.

And in the context I was meaning to use it, It was correct.

BTW Psychosomatic pertains to both the mind and the body.

Psychosomatic - Definitions from Dictionary.com

psy·cho·so·mat·ic [sahy-koh-suh-mat-ik, -soh-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. of or pertaining to a physical disorder that is caused by or notably influenced by emotional factors.
2. pertaining to or involving both the mind and the body.

"of or pertaining to a physical disorder that is caused by or notably influenced by emotional factors"

Someone seeing something faster (physical disorder) that is caused by or notably influenced by emotional factors (Having an emotional attachment to said sofware)

If you have any other problems with words i use, please msg me and don't derail the thread. Thanks.

lavar78 · Nov 4, 2007, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by jokell82

Firefox already does that, so I don't need Launchbar or Quicksilver to do it. Spotlight is perfect as an app launcher.

It's certainly improved (I just tried it), but I wouldn't say it's as good as LaunchBar (or QS). Just as an example:

I typed "ps" to open Photoshop. Instead, a document was selected as the top hit. I then went to "Show All" to select Photoshop in the hopes that Spotlight would learn that's what I want "ps" to open. Unfortunately, it isn't even in the list.

Apparently, you have to start typing continuous letters to get a match -- even if the app's name contains inner caps like QuickTime or GarageBand.

cybergoober · Nov 4, 2007, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by lavar78

It's certainly improved (I just tried it), but I wouldn't say it's as good as LaunchBar (or QS). Just as an example:

I typed "ps" to open Photoshop. Instead, a document was selected as the top hit. I then went to "Show All" to select Photoshop in the hopes that Spotlight would learn that's what I want "ps" to open. Unfortunately, it isn't even in the list.

Apparently, you have to start typing continuous letters to get a match -- even if the app's name contains inner caps like QuickTime or GarageBand.

That's one of my biggest gripes with Spotlight as an app launcher.

*waits for the "Well, just put it in your Dock" crowd…

Kevin · Nov 4, 2007, 11:33 AM

We are all different. It's what makes the world go round. Lets not turn this into another QS fanboy thread. We've already come to the conclusion that QS works for some, and doesn't for others. Lets all get over it all at once. On the count of 3.

1... 2.... 3.....

Aaah.. much better.

cybergoober · Nov 4, 2007, 12:10 PM

This isn't about "fanboyism", and I'm not trying to say LaunchBar or Quicksilver are the be-all-end-all. Just pointing out one way in which Spotlight is severely lacking as an app launcher.

Kevin · Nov 4, 2007, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by cybergoober

Spotlight is severely lacking as an app launcher for me specifically.

Fixed that for you. And I don't think I heard you counting.

If someone feels the new Spotlight makes QuickSilver obsolete for them, then they have a right to believe that. You cannot "correct" them by say "Nu uh" Because obviously, for them it is.

Just like for you it isn't.

One more time.

1... 2....

cybergoober · Nov 4, 2007, 12:30 PM

So basically we're not allowed to discuss the shortcomings of Spotlight?

Gotcha

Kevin · Nov 4, 2007, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by cybergoober

So basically we're not allowed to discuss the shortcomings of Spotlight?

Gotcha

cybergoober · Nov 4, 2007, 01:08 PM

Exactly.

Sorry, I should have appended "without being labeled a fanboy." Apologies.

Look, all I did was concur with someone else about a (perceived) shortcoming of Spotlight as an app launcher and you started in with the fanboy BS again. I mean no matter how you spin it, "ps" is a much more efficient way to launch Photoshop than "photosh". Do you agree? Because that's all I was saying. Not, "LOLOL Spotlite iz teh sux Quicksilver rulz!"

Kevin · Nov 4, 2007, 01:19 PM

cybergoober you were trolling when you posted

"*waits for the "Well, just put it in your Dock" crowd…"

You were looking for a bait. That is why I asked you to stop. Your obsession with Quicksilver is ruining the thread.

This thread isn't about Quicksilver. Nor is it about the Spotlight "shortcomings"

Start a new thread and title it "Quicksilver, and Spotlight's shortcomings" and I PROMISE I wont lay a foot in it.

cybergoober · Nov 4, 2007, 01:37 PM

Dr. Kevin, I may be ruining the thread (that's debatable) but I can assure you I am not obsessed with Quicksilver.

Anyway, I'm done with this.

Kevin · Nov 4, 2007, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by cybergoober

but I can assure you I am not obsessed with Quicksilver.

I don't know about anyone else, but you've convinced me.

Kenneth · Nov 4, 2007, 06:54 PM

MailPlane (Mail 3.0 does GMail, sort of).

jokell82 · Nov 4, 2007, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by Kenneth

MailPlane (Mail 3.0 does GMail, sort of).

Once Gmail added IMAP support MailPlane was obsolete - had nothing to do with Leopard.

- - e r i k - - · Nov 4, 2007, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by lavar78

It's certainly improved (I just tried it), but I wouldn't say it's as good as LaunchBar (or QS). Just as an example:

I typed "ps" to open Photoshop.

Fortunately all you need to type is "p" and up pops photoshop. 100% faster.

lavar78 · Nov 4, 2007, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -

Fortunately all you need to type is "p" and up pops photoshop. 100% faster.

I don't use PS enough to use a one-letter shortcut. That "p" would be better served for Preview or even System Preferences, which was the default when I tried it.

Kevin · Nov 4, 2007, 08:43 PM

The MAC sux because it doesn't have a start menu.

- - e r i k - - · Nov 4, 2007, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by lavar78

I don't use PS enough to use a one-letter shortcut. That "p" would be better served for Preview or even System Preferences, which was the default when I tried it.

My point was that just like QS, Spotlight learns. I use Photoshop a lot, hence Spotlight thinks that p = photoshop for me

lavar78 · Nov 4, 2007, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -

My point was that just like QS, Spotlight learns. I use Photoshop a lot, hence Spotlight thinks that p = photoshop for me

Oh, I get that. It just sucks that I couldn't teach it "ps." I guess it's not meant for people who abbreviate compound words that way.

Simon · Nov 5, 2007, 04:23 AM

Have you tried a symlink or alias named "ps"?

lavar78 · Nov 5, 2007, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by Simon

Have you tried a symlink or alias named "ps"?

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'll just keep using LaunchBar. I only tried Spotlight because people here talked about how fast it was. While it's clearly fast enough, I can't use an application launcher with this limitation. So, to answer the OP's question, it can't replace LaunchBar (or Quicksilver) IMO.

Kevin · Nov 5, 2007, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by lavar78

So, to answer the OP's question, it can't replace LaunchBar (or Quicksilver) IMO.

I don't think the OP was asking the question. He made a statement that for him the new Sherlock has made QS obsolete.

So, what apps am I running now that I can delete once 10.5 is installed?

So far:

1) QuickSilver - Is the new spotlight good enough to dump QS?
2) VirtueDesktop - I assume Spaces means this is no longer needed?
3) SuperDuper - Time Machine will take care of backups now?
4) PathFinder - New finder is good enough to ditch this?

Anyone else know what other 'additions' to OS10.4 can now be retired? What have I missed here?

Kevin · 02:22 PM

Hamsternated!!!

Kevin · 02:22 PM

Hamsternated!!!

Kevin · 02:22 PM

Hamsternated!!!

Kenneth · Nov 5, 2007, 01:44 PM

Kevin... love the quadruple posts there.

jokell82 · Nov 5, 2007, 01:51 PM

There was a server issue this morning.

Kevin · Nov 5, 2007, 02:22 PM

Bingo

CatOne · Nov 5, 2007, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by jokell82

Nope. The only thing I think iChat needs is a consolidated buddy list. I don't like having my Jabber list separate from my AIM list.

I wish you could shrink the font size in the buddy list with iChat as well.

cybergoober · Nov 5, 2007, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

I don't think the OP was asking the question. He made a statement that for him the new Sherlock has made QS obsolete.

Did he? Looked like he was asking.

lavar78 · Nov 5, 2007, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by cybergoober

Did he? Looked like he was asking.

That's because he was.

Originally Posted by neoben

What apps are NO LONGER needed with Leopard?
Howdy...

I hate to have things I don't need running in the background slowing things down, but I've had to have a few things running because they were missing in 10.4.

So, what apps am I running now that I can delete once 10.5 is installed?

So far:

1) QuickSilver - Is the new spotlight good enough to dump QS?
2) VirtueDesktop - I assume Spaces means this is no longer needed?
3) SuperDuper - Time Machine will take care of backups now?
4) PathFinder - New finder is good enough to ditch this?

Anyone else know what other 'additions' to OS10.4 can now be retired? What have I missed here?

kcmac · Nov 5, 2007, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Simon

ASR does bootable backups and it's built right into the OS (yeah, it's also on your install DVD).

SD and CCC are not necessary under Leopard just as they weren't under Tiger.

What is ASR and how does it work? I have always used SuperDuper but currently it does not work with Leopard.

Time machine requires you to boot up with the install disk and then select Time machine backup to restore.

I used to use pdf browser plug-in. (Schubert?) No longer needed as Safari shows pdfs great and gives you the option while viewing to view in Preview! Nice.

- - e r i k - - · Nov 5, 2007, 10:28 PM

Acrobat Professional is less and less needed. Preview can re-arrange pages and combine and split PDFs too now. Praise Jobs!

besson3c · Nov 5, 2007, 11:31 PM

Unfortunately, I'm about to give up on Time Machine until it works better with network backups...