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tpicco · Oct 25, 2006, 04:52 PM

OK... advertiser supplied a PDF with a Pantone... I thought of opening it in Illustrator and changing it and re-saving, but I don't have their fonts... I could place it in the InDesign file I am working in, and save it all to CMYK when I create the overall job PDF, but can I trust InDesign's color management?

Or is there anoither way?

I have InDesign CS1 & Acrobat Professional 6... (and Illustrator CS1 & Photoshop CS1)

Westbo · Oct 25, 2006, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by tpicco

OK... advertiser supplied a PDF with a Pantone... I thought of opening it in Illustrator and changing it and re-saving, but I don't have their fonts... I could place it in the InDesign file I am working in, and save it all to CMYK when I create the overall job PDF, but can I trust InDesign's color management?

Or is there anoither way?

I have InDesign CS1 & Acrobat Professional 6... (and Illustrator CS1 & Photoshop CS1)

If you do not need to make any changes, open the PDF in Photoshop as a high res CMYK PDF to the size you need, re-save as a TIF, EPS, whatever and import as an image into your InDesign file.

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tpicco · Oct 25, 2006, 10:18 PM

won't the type get bitmappy?

himself · Oct 25, 2006, 10:26 PM

Can't you open it in Illustrator and convert the type to outlines? Then you can do the color adjustments you need... on that note you'd probably need the Pantone 4-color process guide to help with an accurate color conversion.

tpicco · Oct 25, 2006, 10:50 PM

I don't have the fonts

Westbo · Oct 26, 2006, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by tpicco

won't the type get bitmappy?

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Nope. Type will stay sharp at 100% production size or smaller. PS will rasterize the PDF. Specify resolution at minimum 300dpi when opening. Be sure to check "Anti-aliased". To confirm, I opened a recent ad which featured KO type on black: 11 pt Frutiger Roman and 18 pt Garamond Book Italic. All looked clean.

What fonts are you missing?

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production_coordinator · Oct 26, 2006, 09:33 AM

I would be very careful. If there is ANYTHING wrong, you will be blamed.

Westbo · Oct 26, 2006, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by production_coordinator

I would be very careful. If there is ANYTHING wrong, you will be blamed.

CYA: If the advertiser is informed that the PDF sent was not to the correct spec and is missing fonts, and is afforded the opportunity to send corrected art or fonts, there will be no blame or liability. (Save all documentation)

BTW, many publications and printers will charge advertisers for correcting the art.

drmcnutt · Oct 27, 2006, 12:45 PM

Use Acrobat's separation preview to find out what element is pantone (sure it's a logo or some other element). Use the touchup object tool and OPT-double click the pantone item. This will open it up in either Photoshop for bitmap graphics or Illustrator for vector graphics. Change the color space and save. Check the separation preview for desired results.

The whole opening in Photoshop really should be a last, last resort because whether your text appears clear it will be problematic for four color press considering you have to now register that formerly black text into the four color black Photoshop will convert it to. If it misregisters it will look fuzzy or worse.

Thorzdad · Oct 30, 2006, 03:31 PM

Is the whole point of all this to convert the Pantone spot color to CMYK?
If so, you can work with your printer on this. They should be able to convert the spot color to CMYK in prepress. They'll hate on you a little about it, but they can do it.

And, yes, you can trust InDesign's color management. It's at least as good as Illustrator's.