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devilsknight · Dec 3, 2008, 05:33 PM

hey guys, i made this petition online cause i'm sick of not having the proper msn, so i thought you guys could help me out by just signing it and passing it on to your friends

www.fullmsnformacintosh.tk

together we can make a difference

AKcrab · Dec 3, 2008, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by devilsknight

together we can make a difference

lol!

devilsknight · Dec 3, 2008, 06:05 PM

I know it sounds corny but its true. We deserve an official msn messenger than has all the features of the windows counterpart. It only takes a second to sign the petition, no registration required, so please take a moment to sign.

Rumor · Dec 3, 2008, 06:10 PM

Or you could try using a Jabber transport with iChat.

B Gallagher · Dec 3, 2008, 06:35 PM

You might want to retitle this thread - the current title is very vague.

devilsknight · Dec 3, 2008, 06:43 PM

Ok, even if you dont agree, could you still take a few seconds to sign it. There are loads of people out there who really want msn on mac, and we should all stick together and support each other. Please guys, its not much.

Cold Warrior · Dec 3, 2008, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by B Gallagher

You might want to retitle this thread - the current title is very vague.

I updated it.

Art Vandelay · Dec 3, 2008, 06:59 PM

MS has already said they are working to make the Mac version comparable to the PC version. Maybe you should make a petition to have them do it faster.

NobleMatt · Dec 3, 2008, 07:04 PM

signed good luck, dont know how far this will go but will post on facebook

Andy8 · Dec 3, 2008, 07:53 PM

You may have more luck donating to Adiumx, as they are working on a video/audio version of their all-in-one IM client.

ibook_steve · Dec 3, 2008, 08:14 PM

Maybe I'm clueless, but what is so special about MSN that it even needs to be brought to the Mac in full? What's wrong with iChat, Facebook, MySpace, and the dozens of other non-Microsoft connecting and communicating applications that we need MSN?

Steve

NobleMatt · Dec 3, 2008, 08:16 PM

because its an application not a feature on a web site and out of all my friends back home (not at uni) about 3 have a mac and non use ichat, so no point going there

ibook_steve · Dec 3, 2008, 08:42 PM

http://www.versiontracker.com/php/qs...cosx&submit=Go

Am I still missing something here?

Steve

cgc · Dec 3, 2008, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by Andy8

You may have more luck donating to Adiumx, as they are working on a video/audio version of their all-in-one IM client.

They've been doing that for years...will it ever be released?

auto_immune · Dec 4, 2008, 01:10 AM

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/product...r/default.mspx

Cipher13 · Dec 4, 2008, 02:07 AM

The Microsoft MSN client is awful. I don't see why anyone would use anything other than Adium, which is fantastic. I just hate that I have to use Pidgin when I'm on a Windows machine.

King Bob On The Cob · Dec 4, 2008, 04:29 AM

In reality, the "extra features" that you get with MSN kinda suck, in protocol implementation, it is not hard to mirror it bit for bit. (I got to do it for a product that no one will ever see. Damn NDA.), but the interface is horrid and there is no good way to mirror the features without copying that terrible GUI.

What are you really missing in the client? The gimmicky features that everyone forgets about after 10 minutes, like Ink and animated emoticons?

Spheric Harlot · Dec 4, 2008, 04:35 AM

Originally Posted by ibook_steve

Maybe I'm clueless, but what is so special about MSN that it even needs to be brought to the Mac in full? What's wrong with iChat, Facebook, MySpace, and the dozens of other non-Microsoft connecting and communicating applications that we need MSN?

The fact that MSN has the VAST majority of instant messenger services, outside the U.S. of A.?

kylef · Dec 4, 2008, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Andy8

You may have more luck donating to Adiumx, as they are working on a video/audio version of their all-in-one IM client.

Agreed

Dakar V · Dec 4, 2008, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Rumor

Or you could try using a Jabber transport with iChat.

The only nice thing a real MSN client would bring is the integrated XBOX LIve support, so I could keep an eye on my Friend's list while not on the xbox.

devilsknight · Dec 4, 2008, 08:02 PM

bump for more sigs. It only takes a minute to sign guys, please help me out (even if you dont particularly agree).

tooki · Dec 5, 2008, 03:10 AM

MS is already working on it. MS Messenger for Mac has no video because they are waiting for the Windows Live Messenger groups (corporate and private) to both switch to the new video format they'll be using soon. The Mac version will do video then.

dru · Dec 10, 2008, 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by tooki

MS is already working on it. MS Messenger for Mac has no video because they are waiting for the Windows Live Messenger groups (corporate and private) to both switch to the new video format they'll be using soon. The Mac version will do video then.

Yeah. Sure. MS has been saying that for years.

red rocket · Dec 10, 2008, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by devilsknight

Ok, even if you dont agree, could you still take a few seconds to sign it. There are loads of people out there who really want msn on mac, and we should all stick together and support each other. Please guys, its not much.

If I don’t agree with you, why the hell would I sign your petition? As a supporter of superior Mac solutions such as Adium, deeper Microsoft penetration of the Mac market is NOT in my interest.

Hugi · Dec 13, 2008, 12:49 PM

Adium is superior if you're just sending text messages. But if you want to use the other bazillion features of MSN you're screwed. I'm not a big fan of MSN, but this means that when I'm communicating with other people via IM in Iceland (where, unfortunately, MSN has become the de facto standard IM protocol), I regularly have to use the sentence "sorry, I don't see that - I'm on a mac", and getting the reply "oh, I see. A Mac. Sorry".

And that is not doing good things for Mac OS X penetration here. The message being sent is simply that if you use a Mac, you can't communicate easily with others on the Internet.

red rocket · Dec 14, 2008, 07:04 AM

I find that the people who rely on those bazillion other features you mention for communication are not typically the kind I need to communicate with because they tend not to understand the concept of efficiency. YMMV.

Art Vandelay · Dec 18, 2008, 08:13 PM

A/V coming in 2009. Demoed at MWSF09.

http://www.officeformac.com/blog/An-...senger-for-Mac

FireWire · Dec 19, 2008, 03:54 PM

I noticed aMSN is seldom suggested as an alternative to MSN, is there a reason for that? Most features from Windows are there, including webcam support. I've been using the latest beta and up-to-date SVN since a while and I like it very much!

driven · Dec 22, 2008, 01:07 PM

I use Meebo. Web-based. History of chat available from wherever I sign in. Nice. Besides MSN also supports AIM, Yahoo, ICQ, Facebook MySpace, Jabber, Google Talker, etc.....

Kar98 · Dec 26, 2008, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by red rocket

I find that the people who rely on those bazillion other features you mention for communication are not typically the kind I need to communicate with because they tend not to understand the concept of efficiency. YMMV.

Jesus. And statements like that is the reason the mainstream population thinks Mac users are a bunch of arrogant, self-aggrandizing, pathetic a-holes.