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rampant · Jan 27, 2003, 07:43 PM

VERY shocking images: http://www.expressen.nu/html/bildarkiv/Saburido.htm

This has been a public service announcement from rampant industries.

voodoo · Jan 27, 2003, 07:46 PM

That was a plain evil webpage! Dammit!!

She shouldn't have survived with 60% damage, it should have killed her.

Oh: Don't drink ethanol and drive. Heck, don't use any intoxicating substances and use a vehicle.

rampant · Jan 27, 2003, 07:48 PM

Reminds me of the guy from Hannibal, only worse.

voodoo · Jan 27, 2003, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by rampant:
Reminds me of the guy from Hannibal, only worse.

Yup

rampant · Jan 27, 2003, 07:52 PM

I also got a bit of a hankering to gib some zombies in Quake.

Axo1ot1 · Jan 27, 2003, 08:05 PM

Gah! What kind of car is that? We're buying a new car today and I don't want to get one that will look like that if it gets hit!!!

MikeM33 · Jan 27, 2003, 08:20 PM

I'D HIT IT!!!!!

MikeM

Nicko · Jan 27, 2003, 08:26 PM

Talk about a cruel twist of fate.

nasty...

macvillage.net · Jan 27, 2003, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by MikeM33:
I'D HIT IT!!!!!

MikeM

Ugh

That's gross... Seriously.

Yea, don't be under the influence of anything while driving.

imaxxedout · Jan 27, 2003, 09:12 PM

Hey now, I've driven piss drunk AND stoned at the same time before.

Course.... I was merely moving my car from one side of the street to the other, at 4 in the morning.... but anyway.

- Ca$h

PS: Stupid alternate side parking crap.

thirsty · Jan 28, 2003, 08:15 AM

Thats Totally Tragic!

I saw a car the other day with a sticker that said:

IF YOU DRINK AND DRIVE YOUR AN IDIOT
IF YOU MAKE IT HOME YOUR'E A LEGEND.

who even makes these stickers, Show them what has happened to Jacqueline and what she has to live with it , it's not a Joke in any context!

mrfrost · Jan 28, 2003, 08:31 AM

Is there anyone here (of legal drinking age) that has never driven their car after a few drinks?

I normally don't drink when I have to get behind the wheel but I have to admit that it does happen on occasions.

Cipher13 · 08:51 AM

Originally posted by Mr_Frost:
Is there anyone here (of legal drinking age) that has never driven their car after a few drinks?

I normally don't drink when I have to get behind the wheel but I have to admit that it does happen on occasions.

No. Nor will I ever, under any circumstances. Nor will I let any friend of mine. If it was only themselves that they could hurt, I might let them - after quite an argument. Because they can hurt others, they'll have to go through me to get to their car if they want to drive while trashed.

After a beer or two is okay, though. It depends on how bad they are.

I just won't though.

That's beyond horrible, the girl. Just awful.

ARENA · Jan 28, 2003, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by Cipher13:
No. Nor will I ever, under any circumstances. Nor will I let any friend of mine. If it was only themselves that they could hurt, I might let them - after quite an argument. Because they can hurt others, they'll have to go through me to get to their car if they want to drive while trashed.

After a beer or two is okay, though. It depends on how bad they are.

I just won't though.

That's beyond horrible, the girl. Just awful.

I completly agree. If it's has been only a couple of beers it's fine to drive, otherways ditto what you said.

Cubeoid · Jan 28, 2003, 09:00 AM

Very sad page, but a good thing to show to drivers, especially teenagers, many of whom think they are invincible behind the wheel.

rjenkinson · Jan 28, 2003, 09:09 AM

that very well might be the saddest thing i have ever seen.

-r.

keekeeree · Jan 28, 2003, 10:22 AM

Okay...here comes me the cynical bastard...

Anyone notice that party picture? I wonder how many of her friends (and her?) drove home that night under the influence?

And something about the sincerity of that page comes into question when you work your way down the site's directory. This page is hosted on site that contains Nazi cartoons, rape/murder photos, porn....good god...and some of the nastiest, f*cked up cartoons (Hentai) that I've seen.

I don't know...man...if this family has anything to do with this site...karma man...karma...

Zimphire · Jan 28, 2003, 10:29 AM

She looks sorta like Micheal Jackson now.

PB2K · Jan 28, 2003, 10:55 AM

She seemed happy on the other pictures. I feel sorry for her.

But also makes me consious about the risks in everyday life. Being 27 now, I slipped thru the hole of the needle lots of times. Pretty amazing I still have all my teeth, fingers and toes. I used to be one of those ADHD kids, before they gave the 'defect (?) a name and fed them Ritalin.

macvillage.net · Jan 28, 2003, 01:02 PM

Sick, but Drunk driving will never be stopped, nor will there be much more of an attempt (legally) then we see today.

Drunk driving accidents are a major source of donor organs these days... Think about it.

Nobody wants the organs of a cancer patient, AIDS patient, hepatitis patient etc. Even an old person.

So how else does someone between the ages of 18 and 30 (when they are ripe) just die?

And cars are designed great for this as well. The airbag is designed with the propper force to protect the chest cavity. Most deaths are from blunt force trama to the head. Even if no seatbelt is worn.... Just to keep the goods in proper shape.

imaxxedout · Jan 28, 2003, 06:55 PM

Yeah, good point. I'm PRO drunk driving... why? Darwin.

- Ca$h

Steve · Jan 28, 2003, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by imaxxedout:
Yeah, good point. I'm PRO drunk driving... why? Darwin.

- Ca$h

You mean the theory of Darwanism, not Darwin himself, right?

PB2K · Jan 28, 2003, 07:13 PM

I am 100% for a special driving course for drunk drivers. Solves the problem

anyone in for a quick business?

Axo1ot1 · Jan 30, 2003, 01:21 AM

50% of automobile accidents that result in deaths involve alcohol

3 in 5 Americans will be involved in an accident involving alcohol.

rampant · Jan 30, 2003, 03:39 AM

:old:

I posted this 2 days ago!

Ozmodiar · Jan 30, 2003, 03:45 AM

Originally posted by rampant:
:old:

I posted this 2 days ago!

i think you wanted to put that in the other thread...

MPC · Jan 30, 2003, 04:00 AM

I think we should be allowed to drink at 16 and drive at 21. People should get accustomed to alcohol before being allowed to get behind the wheel. I drink much differently at 25 then I did at 16. People are going to drink, let them get used to it before allowing them to hop behind the wheel.

And if you get busted they should nail you to the wall. Lose your license for years, picture on TV, ect.. My friend got a DUI and was driving 2 months later. Bullshit.

Cipher13 · Jan 30, 2003, 04:24 AM

Originally posted by imaxxedout:
Yeah, good point. I'm PRO drunk driving... why? Darwin.

- Ca$h

Darwinism and natural selection don't work when the subject in question kills others. We're not increasing the average intelligence of the gene pool here, because stupid people arne't dying - they're killing others.

This kind of stupidity isn't genetic, of course, but you do get the point I'm making.

Axo1ot1 · Jan 30, 2003, 04:26 AM

Originally posted by MPC:
I think we should be allowed to drink at 16 and drive at 21. People should get accustomed to alcohol before being allowed to get behind the wheel. I drink much differently at 25 then I did at 16. People are going to drink, let them get used to it before allowing them to hop behind the wheel.

And if you get busted they should nail you to the wall. Lose your license for years, picture on TV, ect.. My friend got a DUI and was driving 2 months later. Bullshit.

That would have made the last 5 years of my education impossible. I disagree. The driving age is fine, the drinking age is the problem. In France kids are given wine at the table at a young age. They aren't all peepants about alcohol over there like we are in the states. They accept it and celebrate it as a part of culture. In the US its a taboo, so tons of kids like to go out and get totally wasted. They are getting away with something.

MPC · Jan 30, 2003, 04:55 AM

Originally posted by Axo1ot1:
That would have made the last 5 years of my education impossible. I disagree. The driving age is fine, the drinking age is the problem. In France kids are given wine at the table at a young age. They aren't all peepants about alcohol over there like we are in the states. They accept it and celebrate it as a part of culture. In the US its a taboo, so tons of kids like to go out and get totally wasted. They are getting away with something.

I agree. I just wish kids could become more comfortable with the bottle before they got behind the wheel. I know lots of kids that had been driving for years but had only drank a few times. They felt so comfortable behind the wheel that affects of alcohol seemed more minor then they actually were. I'm good at this I can do it after a few drinks. If teens could become comfortable with the limits alcohol places upon them I think teens would make better choices about when the limit has been reached.

Better public transportation would be nice too.

I lived in a small town with a central party zone so we could bike everywhere. It would be nice if the kids could catch the bus home at three am instead of driving. [18 - 21 year olds included.]

edit: in my last post i picked the numbers for convienence. I don't agree with them.

anarkisst · Jan 30, 2003, 02:14 PM

Well. She survived.

My 16 year old nephew was killed by a drunk driver when he was walking home from work. She (with her 4 year old daughter with her) drove off the road, the shoulder and struck him...100 feet...killed him instantly.

For the jerk offs here who think any of this is a joke doesn't know what the effects are in a family.

Don't drink and drive. That simple.

rampant · Jan 30, 2003, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by Ozmodiar:
i think you wanted to put that in the other thread...

Nope.

Anomalous · Jan 30, 2003, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by imaxxedout:
Yeah, good point. I'm PRO drunk driving... why? Darwin.

- Ca$h

Darwinism says "survival of the fittest." It does not say "unfit people have the right to endanger the lives of EVERYONE."

thePurpleGiant · Jan 30, 2003, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by Mr_Frost:
Is there anyone here (of legal drinking age) that has never driven their car after a few drinks?

I normally don't drink when I have to get behind the wheel but I have to admit that it does happen on occasions.

Not meaning to sound high-and-mighty, but nah I never drink anything before driving, ever. I don't trust my reflexes after alcohol, and boy would I regret it if i did kill someone. (understatement)

Twilly Spree · Jan 30, 2003, 07:19 PM

Ouch. Nasty photos. I don't have a problem with one or two beers and then drive, I just drive slower and be more careful. Sometimes I just walk. It's warm enough.

g. olson · Jan 30, 2003, 08:04 PM

Perhaps one of our Swedish members could confirm this, but my understanding is that driving after drinking ANY alcohol in Sweden is not only illegal, but that it carries a mandatory 1 year jail sentence. The beauty of mandatory jail vs fines is that it affects the rich and poor equally.

One of the problems with drinking and driving is that few people understand exactly how much alcohol it takes to put them over the legal limit. The body can process approximately 1 oz. of alcohol/hour. 1 beer=one 5 oz glass of wine=1 mixed drink. Two beers in one hour can put you over the legal limit and if you kill someone, that's considered in many locales vehicular homicide or manslaughter. Also, the average cost of a DUI is about $15,000 when you factor in insurance rates, fines etc. Even many alcoholics know better than to drink and drive. Bottom line is that no rational person would ever drink and drive. The problem is that after a couple of drinks, who's rational?

voodoo · Jan 30, 2003, 08:10 PM

After a few drinks you are still rational, but you have an easier time not to act rational.

Wow. That wasn't even rational

Bedtime.

Ozmodiar · Jan 30, 2003, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by Axo1ot1:
In the US [drinking is] a taboo...

and you can thank the puritans for that

scaught · Jan 30, 2003, 08:45 PM

to quote the church of euthanasia..

driving drunk? take off your seatbelt.

macvillage.net · Jan 30, 2003, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by scaught:
to quote the church of euthanasia..

driving drunk? take off your seatbelt.

I think I'm going to print me a bumpersticker that says that.

Actually, I think I might revise it:

"Don't have small children in your car? Drive into oncoming traffic!"

rampant · Jan 30, 2003, 09:32 PM

Puritanism: The fear that somewhere, someone is happy.

Axo1ot1 · Jan 30, 2003, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by rampant:
Puritanism: The fear that somewhere, someone is happy.

Word. God damn pilgrim wussies.

shanraghan · Jan 30, 2003, 10:04 PM

Hear, hear.

(+1)

tintub · Jan 30, 2003, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by Mr_Frost:
Is there anyone here (of legal drinking age) that has never driven their car after a few drinks?

I normally don't drink when I have to get behind the wheel but I have to admit that it does happen on occasions.

speak for yourself. I'm 25 and have never driven over the limit. The people that kill people only drink and drive 'on occasions'. Get a cab next time.

rampant · Jan 30, 2003, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by Axo1ot1:
Word. God damn pilgrim wussies.

They were shitty in England, too.

scaught · Jan 31, 2003, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by macvillage.net:
I think I'm going to print me a bumpersticker that says that.

you can buy the "driving drunk? take off your seatbelt" bumper sticker from the church of euthanasia website. i think its www.churchofeuthanasia.net, but just google search church of euthanasia and youll find the site if youre interested.

Adam Betts · Jan 31, 2003, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by anarkisst:
Well. She survived.

If I were her, I would rather die.

anarkisst · Jan 31, 2003, 12:02 PM

You think USA punishes DUI offenders badly...

The following is an abbreviation of a compiling done by Minnesota Licensed Beverage Association of the methods that other countries use to discourage driving under the influence.

AUSTRALIA --
Names of the convicted drunk drivers are published in the local newspaper under the heading Drunk and in Jail.

TURKEY--
Police take drunk drivers 20 miles out of town and force them to walk back under an escort.

FINLAND AND SWEDEN--
Automatic jail sentence for one year at hard labor.

SOUTH AFRICA--
Drunken drivers are given 10 year prison terms, a fine of $10,000 or both.

NORWAY--
Three weeks in jail at hard labor and the driver loses license for one year. A second offense within 5 years and the driving license is permanently revoked.

RUSSIA--
Driver's license is revoked for life.

BULGARIA--
A second offense of drunken driving is the last. The punishment is execution.

EL SALVADOR--
Drunken drivers are executed by a firing squad.

Powerbook · Jan 31, 2003, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by anarkisst:
You think USA punishes DUI offenders badly...

TURKEY--
Police take drunk drivers 20 miles out of town and force them to walk back under an escort.

BULGARIA--
A second offense of drunken driving is the last. The punishment is execution.

EL SALVADOR--
Drunken drivers are executed by a firing squad.

That sounds like bullshit. For Europe, even Russia cancelled the death penalty generally. Regarding Turkey, they can buy themselves outta the army, so...

PB.

wdlove · Jan 31, 2003, 01:57 PM

A PhD in dah.