[wolfen]

I had this childhood friend. We were with each other constantly from age 11 to 16. Later I find out he beats the hell out of his Mom on a regular basis.

Later I learned that a close family member I leaned on my whole life is a child molester.

I learned that my father and "friends of the family" were actually mafia.

And even later in life I find out that at least 2 of my friends, and 1 neighbor of mine I spoke with quite regularly, are/were all assasins.

Anyway, I'm just wondering how common this is. I mean, really...does everyone have such a string of violent people in their life? I'm guessing no, but maybe you'll surprise me.

Suffice to say, I tend to view people with a bit of suspicion. I'm like the entire supporting cast of Grosse Poine Blank rolled into one.


wolfen

[Ghoser777]

I probably do - I'm just too naive to know. I know plenty of drug users (not one myself), but no violence.

Matt Fahrenbacher

[ghost_flash]

Originally posted by wolfen:
I had this childhood friend. We were with each other constantly from age 11 to 16. Later I find out he beats the hell out of his Mom on a regular basis.

Later I learned that a close family member I leaned on my whole life is a child molester.

I learned that my father and "friends of the family" were actually mafia.

And even later in life I find out that at least 2 of my friends, and 1 neighbor of mine I spoke with quite regularly, are/were all assasins.

Anyway, I'm just wondering how common this is. I mean, really...does everyone have such a string of violent people in their life? I'm guessing no, but maybe you'll surprise me.

Suffice to say, I tend to view people with a bit of suspicion. I'm like the entire supporting cast of Grosse Poine Blank rolled into one.


wolfen

Strike that.

[Face Ache]

Originally posted by wolfen:
I had this childhood friend. We were with each other constantly from age 11 to 16. Later I find out he beats the hell out of his Mom on a regular basis.

Later I learned that a close family member I leaned on my whole life is a child molester.

I learned that my father and "friends of the family" were actually mafia.

And even later in life I find out that at least 2 of my friends, and 1 neighbor of mine I spoke with quite regularly, are/were all assasins.

Anyway, I'm just wondering how common this is. I mean, really...does everyone have such a string of violent people in their life? I'm guessing no, but maybe you'll surprise me.

Suffice to say, I tend to view people with a bit of suspicion. I'm like the entire supporting cast of Grosse Poine Blank rolled into one.


wolfen

Welcome to my world.

Trust no-one.

[Vader�s Pinch of Death]

Where the hell do you live? Sounds like a real shithole.

[wdlove]

I'm not aware of anyone in my life that is violent. Just remember that you are only responsible for your own actions.

[AKcrab]

Originally posted by wolfen:
And even later in life I find out that at least 2 of my friends, and 1 neighbor of mine I spoke with quite regularly, are/were all assasins.

[hyteckit]

All the people I know are either priests or lawyers.
Does that count?

[brapper]

Originally posted by wolfen:
I had this childhood friend. We were with each other constantly from age 11 to 16. Later I find out he beats the hell out of his Mom on a regular basis.

Later I learned that a close family member I leaned on my whole life is a child molester.

I learned that my father and "friends of the family" were actually mafia.

And even later in life I find out that at least 2 of my friends, and 1 neighbor of mine I spoke with quite regularly, are/were all assasins.

Anyway, I'm just wondering how common this is. I mean, really...does everyone have such a string of violent people in their life? I'm guessing no, but maybe you'll surprise me.

Suffice to say, I tend to view people with a bit of suspicion. I'm like the entire supporting cast of Grosse Poine Blank rolled into one.


wolfen

......where's the punch line....this is a joke right? I mean there's no way anyone could know that many shady people, and really even if they did, would they actually post that their friend's are assasins and mafia on the net?

[Sherwin]

Originally posted by Vader�s Pinch of Death:
Where the hell do you live?

Palermo?

[Face Ache]

Originally posted by hyteckit:
All the people I know are either priests or lawyers.
Does that count?

You poor bastard.

At least all my criminal mates are honest.

[Zoom_zoom]

When I was a kid i had a next door neighbor that got arrested for having about 200 child porn videos in his garage.

Oh and his kids also committed suicide at the ages of about 15 and 12. (about six months before the videos were found)


I wasn't allowed to go near their house after that.

- Zoom Zoom

[wolfen]

Originally posted by brapper:
......where's the punch line....this is a joke right? I mean there's no way anyone could know that many shady people, and really even if they did, would they actually post that their friend's are assasins and mafia on the net?

Look, I've had fk'ing extraordinary life, ok? Maybe not as swanky as Face Ache's. But no one believes half the stuff I post. I admit I have fun telling these things, but they are true. Even the things people don't believe. I rely on the fact that you don't know me, and I don't name the people I talk about. I once asked my mom why we moved so much when I was young. Without skipping a beat she says "To keep away from your father." How did I know the rest of the world didn't move every couple years?

I didn't even mention the uncle who ran a venture capital scam, ran a bar to clean the money, and ran away with millions, the psychic great grandfather, the cult, the starvation...it goes on. If I posted all of it, you'd all swear I was a lying or crazy bastard. I always win the "My family's more bizarre than yours" game. I used to think everyone's life was like that.

Turns out most of you are pretty boring.


wolfen

[Steb Mad]

wolfen, not to bash you or anything but from several of your previous posts, I can see that imagination is one of your strongest area

[BlackGriffen]

Whether you're lying or telling the truth, you'd make one hell of a fiction author.

BG

[Rev-O]

There's this one guy I know, his name is Rev-O, and he scares me. Sometimes gets really violent, and he... what? Yes? Okay...

Brb, the voices are talking to me again...

Yes? All of them? Every last rotten one? Well, okay... you voices know best...

[ghost_flash]

Originally posted by Rev-O:
There's this one guy I know, his name is Rev-O, and he scares me. Sometimes gets really violent, and he... what? Yes? Okay...

Brb, the voices are talking to me again...

Yes? All of them? Every last rotten one? Well, okay... you voices know best...

That was funny and scary at the same time.
begin trace:

.......<trace>locating target</trace>

[mrmister]

"And even later in life I find out that at least 2 of my friends, and 1 neighbor of mine I spoke with quite regularly, are/were all assasins."

Uh-huh.

[forkies]

it's odd, because today walking to a class I saw this older (maybe early 50s?) man who is probably a professor and thought to myself, "he looks like the kind of guy that has killed someone." you know, like, the kind of person who would be cast in a movie and turns out to be the killer. i then thought that everyone probably has secrets like that, but (obviously) keep the well-guarded.

[olePigeon]

Originally posted by Vader�s Pinch of Death:
Where the hell do you live? Sounds like a real shithole.

Better hope his dad's "friends of the family" don't find out you said that and shoot you in the kneecaps.

[keekeeree]

Originally posted by wolfen:
...he beats the hell out of his Mom on a regular basis.

...a close family member...is a child molester.

...my father and "friends of the family" were actually mafia.

...at least 2 of my friends, and 1 neighbor of mine...are/were all assasins.

...does everyone have such a string of violent people in their life?

You think with those kind of credentials, I'm telling you anything about my family or life, or would say anything against yours?!?

[dracoleb]

Actually, my uncle in an interesting person. I don't know too much about him, but I know he did two tours of duty in Vietnam and has four purple hearts. Most of his missions were covert, did some scary stuff. He has to have blood work every so often because he was sprayed with agent orange. Now he has been in jail for illegal arms dealing, had something like 30 guns in his house, and last time I rode in his truck there were some recent bullet holes where he was shot at. I don't know if that classifies as dangerous.

[nredman]

Originally posted by wolfen:

I learned that my father and "friends of the family" were actually mafia.

...never go against the family...

[Sherwin]

Originally posted by wolfen:
Look, I've had fk'ing extraordinary life, ok?
...it goes on. If I posted all of it, you'd all swear I was a lying or crazy bastard. I always win the "My family's more bizarre than yours" game. I used to think everyone's life was like that.

I believe you dude. Simply for the facts that "there's nowt as strange as folk" and that the jails are full of people which someone must know or be related to.

[wolfen]

Originally posted by mrmister:
"And even later in life I find out that at least 2 of my friends, and 1 neighbor of mine I spoke with quite regularly, are/were all assasins."

Uh-huh.

One was former CIA who participated in Operation Phoenix. He also set up whore houses in Asia for a while. (They're effective means of gathering info) Very interesting guy. This was a neighbor that used to come over regularly and chat with me and the wife. You could say he was lying, but you'd have to know him to see that he wasn't. I kept asking enough questions and eventually after a few gin and tonics in him he told me what he did.

The other left the army because he was bored, it was peacetime. So he and a few of his buddies started up a little independent business. It involved guns and "need to know" bases. I didn't need to know most of it, but I had the general idea. This is a very good friend of mine, and I haven't heard from him in a few years so I've started to get a little concerned. He's a little crazy, I will admit.

The last is a guy I work closely with on a daily basis. He happens to be ex-Army Ranger, and was a trigger man. I once asked him where they operated and he proceeded to tell me just about every nation on the planet. I didn't realize the US military was so pro active. I mean, he's just one guy and there are how many Army Rangers? He is struggling with dealing with his past deeds, etc. Very methodical kind of person.

My father doesn't have anything to do with me, now. His days with "the family" are behind him, I believe. But he feels very guilty about his past. In fact, that's a trend among the people I know who have committed these kinds of acts.

My child molesting relative is supposedly reformed, etc...but it's a very serious thing and I am dealing with it as best I can. It's hard watching him take photos of family children during holidays.


wolfen

[Eriamjh]

Sounds like good material for a website!

[dlefebvre]

One of my cousin. We used to spend a few weeks together during summer. He was a mean prankster bu it didn't stop there.
A few years ago, he was arrested for murder. It was apparently an accident, he was under the influence of heavy drugs. He came out of jail 7 years later (for good behavior). 2 years after that, he was involved in a robery as the driver. After a long police chase, he crashed into a police car, killing a policeman. He still has 22 years of jail left.

[boots]

Childhood friend (like, from 0 - 15 years old) went absolutely psycho on me. That particular one is a long story, but the silver lining is that he brought a girl to a party I was throwing my senior year in high school, and he went nuts when he found out she was just there to go to the party...he was one of her "friends from the past" who just called up and wanted know if she would go to the party...nothing serious. Anyway, she took an interest in me, and he went ape-shit. I ended up marrying the girl. Happy ending for me. The childhood friend is now in a prison for the criminally insane. Too many drugs (mostly acid) for too many years, I guess.

In college, one of my best friends and drinking buddies confided that her family was mafia. She had been sexually assaulted, and the kid that did it just kind of disappeared. That one was unsettling. I'm still friends with her, but she's in a different city, so we don't see each other very often.

Oh, Face Ache...the girl I married is now a minister and my drinking buddy is a corporate lawyer. So I guess I've got my bases covered.

[iWrite]

hyteckit said:
All the people I know are either priests or lawyers.
Does that count?

...YOU get the "post of the day" nomination for that comment -- ROFL!

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by iWrite:
[B]...YOU get the "post of the day" nomination for that comment -- ROFL!

You had a situation, too, didn't you? Involving the nanny? (Au-pair?)

:: shivers ::

[Turias]

Is your last name 'Soprano'?

[ryju]

Damn I wish I knew someone in the mafia, I need a good deal on Armani suits...

[Lerkfish]

Originally posted by ryju:
Damn I wish I knew someone in the mafia, I need a good deal on Armani suits...

actually, you probably don't. People who come to know people in the mob don't usually have a long shelf-life.

I was doing courtroom drawings in Las Vegas for the Spillatro brothers trial (the hole-in-the-wall gang, which later the movie "Casino' was loosely or not so loosely base on).

to get a good seat, I came early to the courtroom and waited. One day, I was reading a paperback in corner, not very visible when I suddenly noticed the background buzz got louder. I looked up and saw Tony "the ant" Spillatro waving his finger at a guy. I didn't hear the context preceeding this remark: "You use good judgement, and I'll use good judgement". I didn't know who the guy was he was talking to.
Later, in the courtroom the guy he was talking to is called as a material witness. Suddenly, he has convenient amnesia, which frustrates the hell out of the Prosecutor, who was apparently counting on him for better memory.

That trial was declared a mistrial, and in the meantime before a new trial could be arranged, the Spillatro brothers ended up dead in a shallow grave in a cornfield in Indiana, cause of death: asphyxiation on their own blood. They were beaten to death.

These are not the type of people you want to hang out with if you don't already know them....

[vcutag]

Originally posted by Vader�s Pinch of Death:
Where the hell do you live? Sounds like a real shithole.

Long Island?

Seriously, everyone I know from LI is very... "sicilian." Going to my friend Angie's house was a bit like the movie "Mickey Blue Eyes" for me.

[Shaddim]

Originally posted by wolfen:
I had this childhood friend. We were with each other constantly from age 11 to 16. Later I find out he beats the hell out of his Mom on a regular basis.

Later I learned that a close family member I leaned on my whole life is a child molester.

I learned that my father and "friends of the family" were actually mafia.

And even later in life I find out that at least 2 of my friends, and 1 neighbor of mine I spoke with quite regularly, are/were all assasins.

Anyway, I'm just wondering how common this is. I mean, really...does everyone have such a string of violent people in their life? I'm guessing no, but maybe you'll surprise me.

Suffice to say, I tend to view people with a bit of suspicion. I'm like the entire supporting cast of Grosse Poine Blank rolled into one.


wolfen

My grandfather and uncle were both tied to organized crime, as well as my ex-wife and most of her family.

Oh yeah, my closest childhood friend is in prison for life for killing his wife and both of his children. Pretty freaky.

[Myrkridia]

Originally posted by brapper:
......where's the punch line....this is a joke right? I mean there's no way anyone could know that many shady people, and really even if they did, would they actually post that their friend's are assasins and mafia on the net?

I agree, the only thing missing from this is either Men in Black
or C.I.A. operatives committing corporate espionage.

[ghost_flash]

Originally posted by Myrkridia:
I agree, the only thing missing from this is either Men in Black
or C.I.A. operatives committing corporate espionage.

I used to know some people who knew some people who knew some guy once.

[ryju]

Originally posted by Lerkfish:
actually, you probably don't. People who come to know people in the mob don't usually have a long shelf-life.

I was doing courtroom drawings in Las Vegas for the Spillatro brothers trial (the hole-in-the-wall gang, which later the movie "Casino' was loosely or not so loosely base on).

....

Rats, thankfully I already know someone who has connections, no not with the mob.

[wolfen]

Originally posted by vcutag:
Long Island?

Yes. I'm from Long Island.

True Story in my neighborhood. My brother, sister, and friends decided to go out late one night and walk around the neighborhood. They're 12 and 13 at the time, it's about 2am. Why they're out that late, etc, you'd have to take up with my absentee parents.

So they're on a fairly busy main road and suddenly they see this muscle car slow down up the road. My bro and sis head for the bushes, 2 or 3 friends are with'em and they follow. They hide really well, but the guys in the car saw them run. This big, drunk guy gets out of the car. All of a sudden these two big arms reach around the bush and grab a kid who is sitting not 1 foot from my sister. She holds perfectly still, in fear.

They hear him screaming as he's dragged into the car. Two blocks later the guys throw the kid out of the car, he's beaten senseless. Why? Welcome to my neighborhood.

wolfen

[wataru]

Originally posted by wolfen:
Yes. I'm from Long Island.
Welcome to my neighborhood.

My grandma lives on Long Island.

[g. olson]

I grew up in the 50's and 50's in a nice suburban neighborhood. A man in the neighborhood was the president of the Little League and generally a respected member of the community - nice family, that sort of thing. Not long after I left home for college he was arrested for being a mafia hit-man and shortly thereafter committed suicide in jail.

At college I bought my first lid of pot from a fellow student, a young woman named "Squeaky" Fromm. She was recruited by Charles Manson on campus (I never saw or met him) and joined his "family." She later took a pot shot at President Ford.

These are certainly not the only dangerous people I've met, and they weren't dangerous to me in the least, but they are sort of interesting.

[John C. Smith]

My best childhood friend has been in and out of jail constantly during the last 4 years for robbery and assault.

An acquaintance of mine from highschool killed an endangered tiger with a switchblade.

My aunt who used to run a Papa John's (front for the mafia) slashed someone's throat with a pizza slicer.

My grandmother took out a whole crowd of people in Compton with a machine gun during a street party at 3 am.

My cousin used to spy on the US for Luxembourg and one afternoon he busted into a Bed, Bath N Beyond with his hummer and torched the whole place with dual flamethrowers.

My ex-boyfriend stole 12,000 iPods from an Apple Store, stole a plane and flew to Africa where he gave the iPods to poor children. (okay maybe that's not very violent)

My grandfather killed 4 preSumer Naggas aliens onetime when they tried to come through an interdimensional portal.

I am very well acquainted with danger.

[iWrite]

Spheric:

You have a great memory about the nanny. Yes, she was a REAL psycho. I don't even want to think about it.

Then, last year, our neighbor who owns a big car dealership, went beserk and started shooting out his ceiling fans and windows during a party. He got upset over something, apparently. We had the S.W.A.T. team clear out all of the surrounding houses, ours included, while they surrounded his house and hauled him off to jail. Now he's on probation or something. WEIRD.

[dcmacdaddy]

Originally posted by dracoleb:
Actually, my uncle in an interesting person. I don't know too much about him, but I know he did two tours of duty in Vietnam and has four purple hearts. Most of his missions were covert, did some scary stuff. He has to have blood work every so often because he was sprayed with agent orange. Now he has been in jail for illegal arms dealing, had something like 30 guns in his house, and last time I rode in his truck there were some recent bullet holes where he was shot at. I don't know if that classifies as dangerous.

I had a good female friend in college whose Dad did similar stuff for the Army in Viet Nam. He was on an A-Team--Yes, they really existed, crack four-man squads doing God-knows-what for the military--and he traipsed all over Southeast Asia during those years. When he was brought back to the States his final "job" was to hunt down someone who had worked at a top-secret military weapons lab and had fled to Canada. He was supposed to go to Canada and kill the guy but instead gave him a warning and two weeks to "reappear" in the States. My friend had very little contact with him as he was an alcoholic and abusive.


As for me, I know a few spooks--on the analyst side of the house, not in operations--and have a distant relative who works at a weapons lab. Supposedly he has such a high security clearance that he has regular access to the plans for fabricating all the nuclear weapons in the US military's stockpile.

The closest I have come to perpetrating violence is getting into a fight and caving someone's head in with a baseball bat in self-defense. Its not a pretty sight watching someone's head erupt in a geyser of blood, whether or not you are defending yourself. The closest I have come to experiencing violence myself is being robbed at gunpoint on the street of DC.

[capuchin]

A pretty good friend of mine is an older guy - he's in his 40's. Real pleasant. Good at his job. An all-round pillar of society.

He got married young - when he was in his early 20's. A few months into the marriage, he came home to find his wife in bed with another guy. He walked out the door, grabbed his shotgun from the truck, and killed them both. He did 15 years for murder in Arizona, got out on good behavior, and lived happily ever after.

You never know who has what in their past.

[ghost_flash]

I was giving this thread the time and thought it deserves, and have concluded that I think you are all dangerous. To yourselves, nobody else, but dangerous.

[fromthecloud]

One's of my friend's family had distant relatives that were very prominent in a foreign country's mafia (former Soviet Bloc). They went to a wedding and were suprised to see very large men in suits guarding the church and reception hall just in case someone wanted to spoil that party.

[The Ginger Rat]

This is a very sad thread. I didn't realize so many people had such close contact with very violent crime.

Good luck to us all.

[Angus_D]

Originally posted by Sherwin:
I believe you dude. Simply for the facts that "there's nowt as strange as folk" and that the jails are full of people which someone must know or be related to.

I thought the saying was always "there's nowt queer as folk", but then I guess you can't say that any more.

[ASIMO]

Originally posted by Vader�s Pinch of Death:
Where the hell do you live? Sounds like a real shithole.

I would say either in a theater or a library.