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Botaygehn · Mar 15, 2010, 06:54 PM

I went through some strange system crash recently and lost my entire Frameworks folder and Utilities folder. Most importantly, Installer.

Is there anywhere where I can download the Installer and its frameworks? If not is it against the rules to provide such?

Thanks in advance

Cold Warrior · Mar 15, 2010, 07:18 PM

If your system is that borked, there could be other critical things missing. I'd do an archive-install to fully repair OS X.

reader50 · Mar 15, 2010, 07:20 PM

Both are on your OS X install DVD. After losing your Frameworks folder, you should probably do a new OS install anyway, while preserving users, groups, apps, etc.

You won't have too much luck talking someone into emailing them to you. My Leopard install of /System/Library/Frameworks/ comes in at 1.6 GB.

Botaygehn · Mar 15, 2010, 07:53 PM

Dang... It would help if I could find my OSX Disk. I am really screwed.

Is it possible to install System 7 on a G4? For some reason I have a disk of it despite this being my first mac.

reader50 · Mar 15, 2010, 08:36 PM

No. It would help if you told us exactly which Mac you have. Model info on the nameplate would do.

Depending on which G4 you have, the minimum OS ranges from 8.6 (Yikes G4) to 10.4.2 (last rev of PowerBook and iBook).

Botaygehn · 10:02 PM

Oh, my mistake. It is a Power Mac G4, or as you said, the Yikes! Model. So There is no way to run System 7 on Yikes?

Anyway, the only thing I am looking for from frameworks mainly is the Installer Frameworks, and the installer utility

reader50 · Mar 16, 2010, 02:03 AM

Are you looking in the right places?

Install.framework is located in:
MacHD/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ (367 MB in here)

Most public frameworks are located in:
MacHD/System/Library/Frameworks/ (1.6 GB in here)

MacHD/Library/Frameworks/ (normally empty, for 3rd party frameworks)

If you're looking in the 3rd location, it's perfectly normal for this folder to be empty. As to the Installer itself, as of Leopard it is no longer in /Utilities. Instead, it has been moved to:
MacHD/System/Library/CoreServices/Installer.app

Why don't you check those places. Maybe nothing is missing.

Big Mac · Mar 16, 2010, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by Botaygehn

Oh, my mistake. It is a Power Mac G4, or as you said, the Yikes! Model. So There is no way to run System 7 on Yikes?

The very oldest OS you could run on that system would be some release of OS 9.

Botaygehn · Mar 16, 2010, 06:57 AM

.......You sir...are a life saver.

Now I just need someone to send me the Utilities folder.
I have Panther, I grabbed the utilities folder off my non-booting OSX Tiger disk, but no go.

Botaygehn · Mar 17, 2010, 07:24 AM

Bumping because I really need this folder.

If you cannot get me Panther's whole Utilities folder, can someone at least get me the installer.app from Panther?

reader50 · Mar 17, 2010, 12:21 PM

It's in your email.

Botaygehn · Mar 17, 2010, 09:17 PM

Could you send the files again? They were corrupted and all named ATT00001

King Bob On The Cob · Mar 22, 2010, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Botaygehn

Could you send the files again? They were corrupted and all named ATT00001

Would Pacifist not do the job for you? It replaces Installer for me most of the time (I like checking that extra crud is not being included)

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