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starman · Jun 28, 2004, 01:09 PM

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Adam Betts · Jun 28, 2004, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by Judge_Fire:
The macrumors.com IRC is a nice live text feed, you can view it with a web client, see their frontpage.

Seem to be overloaded

OptimusG4 · Jun 28, 2004, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by starman:
It was available on the first day last year.

Mike

Just the developers release.

MindFad · Jun 28, 2004, 01:12 PM

Damn, you nerds.

starman · Jun 28, 2004, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by OptimusG4:
Just the developers release.

I thought that was obvious

.

Mike

velodev · Jun 28, 2004, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by MindFad:
Damn, you nerds.

That's an old screen capture... I've been on this forum since 11:45CST

turtle777 · Jun 28, 2004, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by velodev:
That's an old screen capture... I've been on this forum since 11:45CST

Yes, we demand an updated picture every 3 minutes

-t

d0ubled0wn · Jun 28, 2004, 01:20 PM

New aluminum displays WoOT!
20", 23", and 30"

edit: 30" only works on G5, requires two dvi connections to drive it

Judge_Fire · Jun 28, 2004, 01:21 PM

30" display being shown now - only available for G5 ?!

Needs more than 1 DVI, 2 in parallel...

J

Lateralus · Jun 28, 2004, 01:23 PM

Apple really needs a display for around $500...

awcopus · Jun 28, 2004, 01:23 PM

$599 for the new graphics card to run the 30 which only runs on a G5.

Turias · Jun 28, 2004, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by awcopus:
$599 for the new graphics card to run the 30 which only runs on a G5.

The question is: what graphics card?

Krypton · Jun 28, 2004, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by awcopus:
$599 for the new graphics card to run the 30 which only runs on a G5.

Those things will sell like hotcakes!

videian28 · Jun 28, 2004, 01:29 PM

to rich for my blood lol.....(I could sell a kidney maybe......)

willab · Jun 28, 2004, 01:31 PM

has a price been mentioned on the 30"?

quandarry · Jun 28, 2004, 01:32 PM

hmmm? steve says he ran in bill gates a few weeks ago. i hope he ran him over.

says apple and microsoft are buddy buddies...

Lateralus · Jun 28, 2004, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by willab:
has a price been mentioned on the 30"?

$3,299

Krypton · Jun 28, 2004, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by willab:
has a price been mentioned on the 30"?

See above your post

SouthPaW1227 · Jun 28, 2004, 01:33 PM

OMG 30" alum. displays that requires dual-DVI just to drive it!

EDIT: I'm not dorky enough and am late.

awcopus · Jun 28, 2004, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by Krypton:
Those things will sell like hotcakes!

So, about $3500 for the high end Mac with more RAM and an extra HD, then $3300 for the 30" monitor and $600 for the card to drive it, $7400. Add in another $500 for AppleCare (you're really going to take any chances with this rig?).

Yeah, like hotcakes at a bake sale like none most of us have ever seen.

scaught · Jun 28, 2004, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by quandarry:
hmmm? steve says he ran in bill gates a few weeks ago. i hope he ran him over.

says apple and microsoft are buddy buddies...

ya. bill hadnt seen those banners yet...

Lateralus · Jun 28, 2004, 01:44 PM

Wow, Tiger wont be shipping until the 'first half' of 2005.

Very surprised.

vertex · Jun 28, 2004, 01:45 PM

Tiger, all new with 150 brand spanking new features. Now where have I heard that before?

moep · 02:14 PM

for those who haven't got IRC access or can't view the macrumors page...

Most revolutionary feature: searching. too many folders now on our hard disk.
How to solve it? We already have solved it. in iTunes, you can find a song by title artist, album etc...
in a second, just by typing into the search field.
Apply to the entire system. "Spotlight" search tech. You can ask it stuff like
find my keynote presentation by phil which I opened last week.
reliant on metadata
Can search in mail, addressbook etc...
System Preferences - removed bar at top. Uses spotlight tech
example of helping people find stuff in existing app.
Spotlight is system wide. upper right hand corner is a mag glass button
click it. get a search field. I get a popdown list of all sorts of things
images, mail, contacts etc...
Full context indexing (pdfs etc..).
Next generation MPEG4. h264. scalable. Apple is adopting.
adopted for hi-def DVD
Coming in Quicktime/Tiger.
Introducing Frank Cassanova to demo it
"the efficiency of the codec is abosolutely incredible"
onto Safari
Now: Safari. We're going to take it a step further. New thing - RSS.
Get all this data from sites and format it how you want. List of site that offer RSS sites (MacRumors, surprisingly, was not mentioned... though we do have one )
Wouldn't it be great to aggreate rss feeds and search through them for things you
want? Demoing Safari's RSS reader.
New search field in Safari for RSS. Shows search in Google, but says there's a delay by days.
Instead can search RSS feeds, and presents them together.
Join #macrumorschat if you would like to chat with other about the Key Note.
New tech: Core Image and Core Video.
doing processing in graphics processor (GPU), not the CPU.
all done with floating point precision
realtime filters. over 100 professional quality
filters. just like audio units, you can extend with image and video units to extend it any way you want. similar to audio units/coreaudio. avail to dev to write any apps
they want.
Similar to core Audio, provides APIs, tools for developers for manipulation of media.
(audio,video,images)
Demoing Core Image/Video.

coverage by macrumors.com
I'm just c&p'ing the IRC chat here.

Turias · Jun 28, 2004, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by PowerMacMan:
Wow, Tiger wont be shipping until the 'first half' of 2005.

Very surprised.

Still 3 years before Longhorn.

It doesn't surprise me, though. We had heard that Apple was going to slow down their OS X release schedule. Also, from what I've seen, 10.3 is pretty damn stable.

Krypton · Jun 28, 2004, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by Turias:
10.3 is pretty damn stable.

Hmmmmmmm. Your mileage may vary...

andi*pandi · Jun 28, 2004, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by starman:
Except your midsection .

well, I can't say as you're wrong, entirely.

Hey phil!

While you all are waiting for more WWDC news, why not click my sig? It's for charity. *

*by charity, I mean, me.

thanks!

Lateralus · Jun 28, 2004, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by Turias:
Still 3 years before Longhorn.

It doesn't surprise me, though. We had heard that Apple was going to slow down their OS X release schedule. Also, from what I've seen, 10.3 is pretty damn stable.

Yeah, I'm more than happy with Panther. I find it to be extraordinarily stable. And the only parts of my G4 that are original are the motherboard and the power supply. So if anybody would have stability problems, it would be me.

Peabo · Jun 28, 2004, 01:51 PM

The 'fake' screenshots were real.

moep · 01:59 PM

no, so far only the system preference thing was confirmed.

I still hope those foogly gadgets are fake...

//edit: updated the post above.

cszar2001 · Jun 28, 2004, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by moep:
for those who haven't got IRC access or can't view the macrumors page...

Most revolutionary feature: searching. too many folders now on our hard disk.
How to solve it? We already have solved it. in iTunes, you can find a song by title artist, album etc...
in a second, just by typing into the search field.
Apply to the entire system. "Spotlight" search tech. You can ask it stuff like
find my keynote presentation by phil which I opened last week.
reliant on metadata
Can search in mail, addressbook etc...
System Preferences - removed bar at top. Uses spotlight tech

--- (OMG, looks like the screenshots were real... I hope the gadgets weren't! we'll see... ) ---

About bloody time!
That`s gonna improve productivity a lot.

vertex · Jun 28, 2004, 01:59 PM

I wonder what they're basing their search technology on. Now I can see why the Longhorn posters were put up. Like I said in another post today, Tiger wil probanly be the OS X version out when Longhorn is released.

GoGoReggieXPowars · Jun 28, 2004, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by PowerMacMan:
Yeah, I'm more than happy with Panther. I find it to be extraordinarily stable. And the only parts of my G4 that are original are the motherboard and the power supply. So if anybody would have stability problems, it would be me.

Heh, me too! These Sawtooth models are great to play with.

PS. Maya Unlimited =

vertex · Jun 28, 2004, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by GoGoReggieXPowars:

PS. Maya Unlimited =

Hope it's a world away from the current OS X version. It's virtually unusable in a film/tv production environment.

vertex · Jun 28, 2004, 02:05 PM

Tiger's 64-bit too. Nice.

vertex · Jun 28, 2004, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by moep:
no, so far only the system preference thing was confirmed.

I still hope those foogly gadgets are fake...

//edit: updated the post above.

Looks like the Safari one is real too. RSS feeds in Safari.

scottiB · Jun 28, 2004, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by GoGoReggieXPowars:
PS. Maya Unlimited =

Pre-emptive b!tch: What good is Unlimited if we don't have any Pro graphics cards!?!?!

thank you, goodnight...

phoenixboy70 · Jun 28, 2004, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by z0ne81:
The 'fake' screenshots were real.

what, that butt ugly "widget" thing was for real??????

vertex · Jun 28, 2004, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by scottiB:
Pre-emptive b!tch: What good is Unlimited if we don't have any Pro graphics cards!?!?!

thank you, goodnight...

Very true. One thing Apple aren't mentioning. Is that virtually all Maya sales are in pre-owning Mac studios, and virtually none in the film business. Maya on Mac has brought nearly zero sales of Macs by non-Mac post houses that use 3D.

But, the graphics card issue is one major show-stopper, and the reliance on ATi is a killer too, bad choice for 3D. Also, if Apple hope to start getting any presence in the 3D animation business, they need to ship out G5's at a fraction of the current cost, cost and performance being a major factor on sales.

vertex · Jun 28, 2004, 02:17 PM

Anyone think the Safari RSS version wil be out soon, rather than a Tiger specific release?

PBG4 User · Jun 28, 2004, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by vertex:
Anyone think the Safari RSS version wil be out soon, rather than a Tiger specific release?

I was wondering that myself. 12 months is a long time to wait for RSS feeds.

vertex · Jun 28, 2004, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by PBG4 User:
I was wondering that myself. 12 months is a long time to wait for RSS feeds.

Yeah, it sounded like it was separate to Tiger. If so, we might see it in a few days.

starman · Jun 28, 2004, 02:23 PM

Dashboard is a reality

vertex · Jun 28, 2004, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by starman:
Dashboard is a reality

Now is not the time for jokes.

moep · Jun 28, 2004, 02:27 PM

Damn, they even copied the Konspose from Konfabulator.
I feel sorry for the developer of that lil app...

Well, this means that Pipeline is also real. That's going to be one of the "Killer Apps" for Tiger, IMO. Sounds way cool.. can't wait for it to be announced.

xi_hyperon · Jun 28, 2004, 02:27 PM

Does anyone have the screenshots mentioned earlier? I missed 'em.

starman · Jun 28, 2004, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by vertex:
Now is not the time for jokes.

Who's joking?

juanvaldes · Jun 28, 2004, 02:29 PM

they were UGLY.....

zachs · Jun 28, 2004, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by xi_hyperon:
Does anyone have the screenshots mentioned earlier? I missed 'em.

http://goozballs3.spymac.net/tiger/

PBG4 User · Jun 28, 2004, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by xi_hyperon:
Does anyone have the screenshots mentioned earlier? I missed 'em.

They are here: --> http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=520