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Mike S.
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Sep 9, 2004, 10:21 PM
 
Originally posted by demograph68:
I'll probably procrastinate on this one guys... sorry.
You seemed to be making good progress, what happened? You just get burned out?

Sucks that there are so many needless resources in an X theme, even worse I bet your theme is going to pop up for Windows based on your screenshots.

If you're reading smegger, is there any way ShapeShifter (in some unspecified future release) could ever work around the enormous resource barrier to X themes and somehow make the process reasonable? I'm guessing it's beyond the scope of a third party but I asked anyway.

Maybe that's more the realm of ThemePark?

Sorry, that was off topic.
     
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Sep 9, 2004, 11:29 PM
 
Offtopic:
I've suggested that Theme Park be implemented to import from slices of a photoshop file/template. I don't know if that would work, but it seems like a reasonable possibility if all the slices were the correct name...

On topic: I'd really hate to see this theme fizzle out.
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Sep 9, 2004, 11:53 PM
 
if your not goig to finish it, maybe send someone the theme to work on it..?

i really was looking forward to this theme.
     
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Sep 10, 2004, 03:27 AM
 
great work!!

dont' procrastinate!! please!! massive props to you for continueing the development of your way cool looking theme! 8)
     
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Sep 20, 2004, 06:30 AM
 


My first attempt at editing the sidebar color. Piece of cake!
(I hope iTunes will be as easy though)
     
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Sep 20, 2004, 07:49 AM
 
Originally posted by demograph68:


My first attempt at editing the sidebar color. Piece of cake!
(I hope iTunes will be as easy though)
Mmmm. That looks very nice.
Nice to see a colour other than white in there
     
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Sep 20, 2004, 07:59 AM
 
Originally posted by demograph68:
My first attempt at editing the sidebar color. Piece of cake!
(I hope iTunes will be as easy though)
Makes me hungry. Would you tip me where in TP to find the cake ?
     
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Sep 20, 2004, 01:59 PM
 
Good Golly, As a lover of dark themes this one is looking superb.
     
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Sep 20, 2004, 03:13 PM
 
Looks awesome. Would you be so kind as to letting me know how to change the color in the sidebar, it would be appreciated.
( Last edited by Solsonic; Sep 20, 2004 at 06:24 PM. )
     
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Sep 20, 2004, 04:00 PM
 
Originally posted by Solsonic:
Looks awesome. Would you be so kind as to letting me know how to change the color in the sidebar, it would be appreciated. EMAIL
Open HexEdit. Open System/Library/CoreServices/Finder/Contents/MacOS/Finder
Press command+J and type in 0029EB10

You'll see this:


Open up DigitalColor Meter app inside Utilities folder and set it to RGB as Hex Value, 16-bit. Now say I get this example: R 8888 G A4A4 B B9B9 In hexedit, replace FF FF FF FF FF FF with 88 88 A4 A4 B9 B9 Save to desktop.

Now just replace the original from Open System/Library/CoreServices/Finder/Contents/MacOS/Finder to the one you just saved. Log out and in again. Done!

(Note: This works only for 10.3.5)
     
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Sep 20, 2004, 04:03 PM
 
Originally posted by demograph68:
Open HexEdit. Open System/Library/CoreServices/Finder/Contents/MacOS/Finder
Press command+J and type in 0029EB10

You'll see this:


Open up DigitalColor Meter app inside Utilities folder and set it to RGB as Hex Value, 16-bit. Now say I get this example: R 8888 G A4A4 B B9B9 In hexedit, replcae FF FF FF FF FF FF with 88 88 A4 A4 B9 B9 Save to desktop.

Now just replace the original from Open System/Library/CoreServices/Finder/Contents/MacOS/Finder to the one you just saved. Log out and in again. Done!
Im gonna need to bookmark this for future reference.
     
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Sep 20, 2004, 05:40 PM
 
Freaking Shweeet. Works like a charm,thanks.
( Last edited by Solsonic; Sep 20, 2004 at 05:58 PM. )
     
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Sep 20, 2004, 05:55 PM
 
Originally posted by demograph68:
Open HexEdit. Open System/Library/CoreServices/Finder/Contents/MacOS/Finder
Press command+J and type in 0029EB10

You'll see this:


Open up DigitalColor Meter app inside Utilities folder and set it to RGB as Hex Value, 16-bit. Now say I get this example: R 8888 G A4A4 B B9B9 In hexedit, replace FF FF FF FF FF FF with 88 88 A4 A4 B9 B9 Save to desktop.

Now just replace the original from Open System/Library/CoreServices/Finder/Contents/MacOS/Finder to the one you just saved. Log out and in again. Done!

(Note: This works only for 10.3.5)

Here I was expecting the answer to be some easy aspect of ThemePark I had overlooked.

Oy.
Seriously, thanks for the cool tip, Demo! Nice work. Now all we need is for some enterprising software author (with plenty of free time) to make a utility to do this as well as allow for easy tiling of images in Finder Windows. (I'm getting sick of hacking into the Finder .plist file, ya know?)

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Sep 20, 2004, 06:50 PM
 
My email isnt working so ill post my beta bugs here...... right now we need skins for the apps i hope you'll do plenty of em.... also when sending a .mac email the title text of the message your writing comes out black and blends.
     
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Sep 20, 2004, 07:13 PM
 
Thanks to all helping with the beta.

Sorry haven't been able to respond to some, but I am thoroughly going over all the comments, suggestions and bugs and have worked on many of the issues including readability of type on the buttons, application skins and Im using menu enhancer for the menu bar. And in general getting the theme more consistent.

Should have a second beta release sometime this week.
     
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Sep 20, 2004, 07:17 PM
 
Originally posted by dragun415:
Thanks to all helping with the beta.

Sorry haven't been able to respond to some, but I am thoroughly going over all the comments, suggestions and bugs and have worked on many of the issues including readability of type on the buttons, application skins and Im using menu enhancer for the menu bar. And in general getting the theme more consistent.

Should have a second beta release sometime this week.
I can't wait for the next beta! Thanks!
     
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Sep 20, 2004, 07:31 PM
 
Originally posted by demograph68:
I can't wait for the next beta! Thanks!
Same here. Text color is the main problem you need to work around. It's a pain with black themes. Looks great though so far.
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Sep 20, 2004, 07:37 PM
 
Originally posted by demograph68:
Open HexEdit. Open System/Library/CoreServices/Finder/Contents/MacOS/Finder
Press command+J and type in 0029EB10

You'll see this:


Open up DigitalColor Meter app inside Utilities folder and set it to RGB as Hex Value, 16-bit. Now say I get this example: R 8888 G A4A4 B B9B9 In hexedit, replace FF FF FF FF FF FF with 88 88 A4 A4 B9 B9 Save to desktop.

Now just replace the original from Open System/Library/CoreServices/Finder/Contents/MacOS/Finder to the one you just saved. Log out and in again. Done!

(Note: This works only for 10.3.5)
Is it possible to intergrate this "hack" into shapeshifter?
     
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Sep 20, 2004, 07:40 PM
 
Originally posted by Ice Spectre:
Is it possible to intergrate this "hack" into shapeshifter?
I doubt Jason would go for it. ShapeShifter has a strict rule of not editing/replacing ANYTHING. it only re-directs images... or something like that. This sounds too much like it could go wrong and has a huge potential for failure. Each version of OSX probably needs a different hex address.
     
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Sep 20, 2004, 07:52 PM
 
Originally posted by MacMan4000:
I doubt Jason would go for it. ShapeShifter has a strict rule of not editing/replacing ANYTHING. it only re-directs images... or something like that. This sounds too much like it could go wrong and has a huge potential for failure. Each version of OSX probably needs a different hex address.
Well there might be a safe way to... APE is really powerful.
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Sep 20, 2004, 07:57 PM
 
Originally posted by MacMan4000:
I doubt Jason would go for it. ShapeShifter has a strict rule of not editing/replacing ANYTHING. it only re-directs images... or something like that. This sounds too much like it could go wrong and has a huge potential for failure. Each version of OSX probably needs a different hex address.
To add to that...
As much as it would be cool to let SS do these extra things, I think part of the beauty of it is that it specifically doesn't. As MacMan said, SS doesn’t meddle with any actual system files and I think it should always stay that way.

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Sep 20, 2004, 08:00 PM
 
Originally posted by crooner:
To add to that...
As much as it would be cool to let SS do these extra things, I think part of the beauty of it is that it specifically doesn't. As MacMan said, SS doesn’t meddle with any actual system files and I think it should always stay that way.
Yeah, its much safer than the current alternatives. And it is just plain better!
     
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Sep 22, 2004, 12:52 AM
 
Attn: Themepark Gurus

Is there any way to edit Skin Safari through Themepark?
     
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Sep 22, 2004, 01:32 AM
 
Originally posted by dragun415:
Attn: Themepark Gurus
Is there any way to edit Skin Safari through Themepark?
Yes there is.
Add the application skin to your guiKit package and edit the resources.
There are about 30 of them I'd guess.
Word of advice : better not use Safaricon.

PS
My answering this does not mean I consider myself a Themepark Guru ! At all !
     
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Sep 22, 2004, 01:51 AM
 
Originally posted by Gerrit Vanoppen:
Yes there is.
Add the application skin to your guiKit package and edit the resources.
There are about 30 of them I'd guess.
Word of advice : better not use Safaricon.

PS
My answering this does not mean I consider myself a Themepark Guru ! At all !
Yup the app skins are nice in TP.
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Sep 22, 2004, 02:32 AM
 
I get a list of apps to ADD, but its short and doesn't have safari listed. Do i need to do something to get safari on?

     
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Sep 22, 2004, 03:51 AM
 
Is everything up to date like themepark and safari? Weird.
     
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Sep 22, 2004, 10:18 AM
 
might that be iTunes your working on skinning in the lower right corner of that screen shot? also looks like you have graphics for various buttons behind TP.

i can't wait for this theme to be finished.
     
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Sep 22, 2004, 12:10 PM
 
Originally posted by MacMan4000:
I doubt Jason would go for it. ShapeShifter has a strict rule of not editing/replacing ANYTHING. it only re-directs images... or something like that. This sounds too much like it could go wrong and has a huge potential for failure. Each version of OSX probably needs a different hex address.
Spot on. And, yeah, it's a bummer.
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Sep 22, 2004, 12:13 PM
 
Originally posted by dragun415:
I get a list of apps to ADD, but its short and doesn't have safari listed. Do i need to do something to get safari on?
I don't know why it's not showing up in the list. If the operating system can't find an application, ThemePark won't be able to either, and it'll be disabled in the list, as in your screenshot. Contact me directly if you can't get this working and we'll get it figured out.
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Sep 22, 2004, 12:21 PM
 
I keep staring and staring at this theme in progress...
it is so dark and shiny... like the Imperial Bomber pilots from Star Wars [timely reference, huh? ]

the glowing highlights are insane - I stare <blinkblink>

It really looks fantastic. If you can succeed in making the menu action relevent to the theme and the rollover states legible, you will have accomplished what few of the dark themes have. Font color blowout seems to be a difficult task to conquer.

keep going - we are not patient but perfection is worth waiting for.
     
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Sep 22, 2004, 01:22 PM
 
One of the best looking dark themes around, looking at how things are going. Keep it up guys!
     
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Sep 23, 2004, 05:56 AM
 
This theme reminds me of the Playstation Portable.
     
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Sep 23, 2004, 10:25 AM
 
That's exactly what I thought when I first saw Cathode.. it looks like the concept of the PSP some gaming magazine had done a while back; it had iPod-style touchpad buttons and was completely gloss-black with defined lines.
     
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Sep 25, 2004, 10:57 AM
 
Alright, just a screenshot of the latest build.

Finally figured out how to fix the popup buttons in Carbon.
I just have a few more things to do, like redoing the progress bar and I will be sending out beta 2.

Still haven't figured out why my themepark won't skin safari. (Anyone interested in helping?)

     
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Sep 25, 2004, 11:13 AM
 
i've never done themeing (looked into it, but got no where), so...maybe someone can help or just do what i would do. open another theme that does skin safari and see how they did it.


PS. as soon as you release the final or another test version, i want in!
     
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whoa. that looks fantastic dude. i'm impressed.
     
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Your theme design is F 'ing cool !!! Looking forward to its debut. Soon I hope ???
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Sep 25, 2004, 01:08 PM
 
Wow, looking great. Is that really Mail or some kind of widget because it looks positively badass in grayscale.

Is that iTunes theme done? It would look much better decked out all in black rather than just the buttons, I think Izawa did a black iTunes with Shinobi and I think NEOS also has a black iTunes so it should be doable.

If ShapeShifter can ever manage to get all those white text areas themeable in color then with some mods all those black themes could become long term usable.

I'm still running Cathode the day it comes out though

Excellent work!
     
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Sep 25, 2004, 01:47 PM
 
Originally posted by dragun415:
Alright, just a screenshot of the latest build.

Finally figured out how to fix the popup buttons in Carbon.
I just have a few more things to do, like redoing the progress bar and I will be sending out beta 2.

Still haven't figured out why my themepark won't skin safari. (Anyone interested in helping?)

Nice when do the beta testers get it?
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Sep 25, 2004, 03:41 PM
 
Originally posted by dragun415:
Still haven't figured out why my themepark won't skin safari. (Anyone interested in helping?)
I'm interested in helping.

Email me or IM me at the contact info I PM'ed you.
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Sep 25, 2004, 03:46 PM
 
sheesh, that looks fantastic, hard to believe it's your first theme when beta testing time comes, drop me a line please

When TP did that with one of my variants, it was because I had deleted the safari skin by accident
     
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Sep 25, 2004, 03:50 PM
 
i know. when ever i try making a theme, it looks like mixed with with some on it.

i can't wait for this theme to be completed
     
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Sep 25, 2004, 04:40 PM
 
wow, this theme looks incredible. I'm not one much for dark themes usually, but I would use this one for sure.

I wish I could help you regarding the Safari skin issue, but I don't know anything about theming. If you do need beta testers or anything, I'd be honored to help out.
     
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Sep 26, 2004, 06:27 PM
 
Hey.. The reference to PSP inspired me to do this banner with the playstationlike font.

Anyway... I keep going back and finding things to redo, so its taking longer than I hoped.

     
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Sep 26, 2004, 06:50 PM
 
That iz wicked-dang I am jonezin' for this theme.
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this theme looks sweet..how ever, the PSP does not, so i'm not seeing the connection..
     
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Sep 26, 2004, 07:22 PM
 
Please dont make the itunes like that because you cant even see the logo inside it... at least make the play logo and pause and back and foward logos glow not just black
     
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Sep 26, 2004, 07:55 PM
 
hey, dragun415, if we all ask REAL nice ya think you could release a public beta version? Pleeeeeaaaase? I'll give you a dollar!
     
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am i gonna be able to use this with shapeshifter?
     
 
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