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subego
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Sep 19, 2016, 03:12 AM
 
I was thinking about the movie Beetlejuice, and the distance between Alec Baldwin's colossal douchebag self and the character he plays in that movie. People don't give him credit for the range.

People do give Sean Penn credit, but I'm still impressed with the distance between his colossal, greasy douchebag self and Spicoli from Fast Times.

Any others come to mind?
     
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Sep 19, 2016, 04:34 AM
 
Mel Gibson?
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Sep 19, 2016, 06:50 AM
 
Dang, thought this was going to be about a new kitchen appliance.
     
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Sep 19, 2016, 10:16 AM
 
Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep View Post
Mel Gibson?
Excellent example, sugar tits!

What's the best role to contrast with his colossal, drunk douchebag self? Signs is what comes to mind, but I'm sure there's a movie I haven't seen which fits better.
     
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Sep 19, 2016, 10:36 AM
 
Vin Diesel.
     
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Sep 19, 2016, 10:47 AM
 
Is he a douchebag IRL?

That's not a necessary requirement, but from what I've seen he's mostly playing the same character.
     
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Sep 19, 2016, 01:10 PM
 
Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
Vin Diesel.
Greater range than Vin Regular Gas.

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Sep 19, 2016, 02:47 PM
 
Vin Diesel is a D&D geek.

Braveheart or Lethal Weapon might be good examples for Mel. Or maybe What Women Want? Maverick, Gallipoli (been a while since I saw that, bit of a guess, or perhaps best of all Chicken Run.
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Sep 19, 2016, 02:53 PM
 
I've been pondering range recently too with all the calls in Hollywood for cisgendered actors to stop being cast as transgendered characters. Personally I can't think of a more challenging role for an actor than to play something like that if its so far from what they themselves are. I sort of understand the calls that it implies there aren't good enough transgendered actors to play those characters, though I have more sympathy for the same argument when actors are playing outside their race, if only for the aesthetic of the film. Otherwise why aren't we hearing "Why are serial rapists always played by such nice, law-abiding actors. I'd like to see more actual serial rapists playing serial rapists in the movies." Its pretty stupid when you put it like that. The whole point is for an actor to play something they are not. Most of the time anyway.
If anything a really talented transgendered actor should be more versatile than any cisgendered actor as they might be able to play any gender convincingly.
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Sep 19, 2016, 03:07 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
...sugar tits!
Still one of the funniest celebrity-behaving-badly quotes of all time. Sure, I'd want to kill him if he said it to my wife, sister, or mother, but I remember first reading it and actually snorting.

Also, his new movie is supposed to be pretty incredible.
     
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Sep 19, 2016, 03:26 PM
 
Taylor Lautner in The Ridiculous Six.
     
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Sep 19, 2016, 05:28 PM
 
Not that I like the guy, but... After you've seen Tom Cruise doing more or less the same manic character in every movie, it is quite refreshing to see him in something like Collateral or even Magnolia.

Other than that, I think that the generation of actors now in their twenties or thirties have more range than the ones from when I was a kid.
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Sep 19, 2016, 06:47 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
I was thinking about the movie Beetlejuice, and the distance between Alec Baldwin's colossal douchebag self and the character he plays in that movie. People don't give him credit for the range.

People do give Sean Penn credit, but I'm still impressed with the distance between his colossal, greasy douchebag self and Spicoli from Fast Times.

Any others come to mind?
Johnny Depp.
     
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Sep 20, 2016, 04:12 AM
 
DiCaprio
Pitt
Chris Tucker (watch the Fifth Element)
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Sep 20, 2016, 06:06 AM
 
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
DiCaprio
Pitt
Chris Tucker (watch the Fifth Element)
Are you complimenting their range or saying they are assholes? Or both?
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Sep 20, 2016, 07:06 AM
 
If you've ever seen Swimming with Sharks, the smelly lead actor is based on Pitt.

Doesn't make him out to be an asshole so much as an idiot.

Who smells funky.
     
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Sep 20, 2016, 07:14 AM
 
Full disclosure: I didn't get The Fifth Element.

That felt like Chris' normal character (like from Friday) turned up to 11 with some queen stereotype.
     
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Sep 20, 2016, 11:54 AM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
If you've ever seen Swimming with Sharks, the smelly lead actor is based on Pitt.

Doesn't make him out to be an asshole so much as an idiot.

Who smells funky.
Rob Lowe's character from Californication is also based on Pitt.
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Sep 20, 2016, 09:21 PM
 
Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep View Post
Are you complimenting their range or saying they are assholes? Or both?
Actors that have more range than most people realize.
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Sep 20, 2016, 09:29 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Full disclosure: I didn't get The Fifth Element.

That felt like Chris' normal character (like from Friday) turned up to 11 with some queen stereotype.
Leeloo Dallas multipass?
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Sep 21, 2016, 04:27 AM
 
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
Actors that have more range than most people realize.
I agree then. Though I haven't seen Chris Tucker in a movie in ages.
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Sep 21, 2016, 10:46 AM
 
I feel like DiCaprio and Pitt get credit for range. That said, I think Pitt is overrated.

Long story with no payoff for why Pitt made me think of this, but I have a potential proposal.

Crispin Glover.

I'm feeling there's a good spread between McFly and that dude from River's Edge, but I haven't seen Back to the Future since it came out, so my memory might be hazy.
     
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Sep 21, 2016, 01:09 PM
 
Pitt usually is overrated, then you watch 12 Monkeys or Snatch... and realize he's mostly underutilized.
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Sep 21, 2016, 01:24 PM
 
12 Monkeys is the specific movie which I was thinking of when I mentioned Crispin.

He would have wiped the floor with Pitt.
     
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Sep 21, 2016, 06:08 PM
 
I've always thought there were some actors who are better than you realise because they have sort of overly cheesy good looks. What I call American Soap Opera looks. Usually square jawed, buff men and generally fit women but they are often rather interchangeable. Like as long as you get another one with the right hairdo and outfit, the audience might not even notice.

Adrian Paul was a good example of this. Now he's a bit older his face has gained some character, but back in the 90s when he was in Highlander, he just looked and sounded like he couldn't possibly be a great actor. Then you watch him for years here and there and one day you realise, actually he isn't half bad. He's a particularly good example because as well as the soap star looks, he has the American soap villain English accent as well.
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