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The parents of Terri Schiavo have authorized a conservative direct-mailing firm to sell a list of their financial supporters, making it likely that thousands of strangers moved by her plight will receive a steady stream of solicitations from anti-abortion and conservative groups.
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hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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good thing her death was not in vain. it was for spam!
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Just when you thought nothing more could come of it, her parents raise the ante. Friggin amazing.
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I am simply aghast. How low can a person possibly go? Making publicity out of their brain-damaged daughter wasn't enough, now they are making money off of people who wanted to help them out of the goodness of their hearts. It kind of tilts the "who's right" equation, don't you think?
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I'd love the hear what iWrite/Cody Dawg has to say about this.
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Originally posted by waxcrash:
I'd love the hear what iWrite/Cody Dawg has to say about this.
She's too busy weeding all the spam and unsolicited calls to respond.
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That's just unbelievable. It's amazing to see how low people will go to make a buck. Sometimes I guess it's better to stay out of other people's problems.
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Originally posted by Randman:
She's too busy weeding all the spam and unsolicited calls to respond.
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Originally posted by Randman:
She's too busy weeding all the spam and unsolicited calls to respond.
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and during this BS with Terri's parents Michae,l is just being genuine. Go figure, poor guy.
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anyone emotionally attached enough to give money to the family is probably already on the lists.
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damn, that is pretty funny.
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Oi, sucks to be them
Very funny as an outsider though
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What happened to the money that was donated to them? Is it all gone now?
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Originally posted by demograph68:
What happened to the money that was donated to them? Is it all gone now?
vacation?
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Originally posted by demograph68:
What happened to the money that was donated to them? Is it all gone now?
i'm sure the lawyers got it
wow un believable...
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And this is wrong because?
Greenpeace rents it's list of donors out...
I've read several articles on the topic, and it would seem they have one word in common.
Ghoulish... This seems to be a concerted effort to slander the parents of Terri Schiavo. When one dontates money to any organization, wether it be Greenpeace, or a conservative organization, one should expect your name to be public domain. It happens all the time, and this has been blown way out of proportion to the real sickness in this case.
This doesn't erase what Michael Schiavo (Saint to be) <sarcasm> has done.
- Kept family frmo Terri at the time of her death
- Cremated her against her parents wishes, and buried her far away, holding a secret funeral where they were not allowed. Not even Catholic. Terri was Catholic after all.
He is a monster.
The reality of it is, they are probably in debt beyond any of our guesses and are having to do this in order to stay away from bankruptcy. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, unlike some of the Euthenasia Cheerleaders in here.
You are all are a sad bunch.
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Why do they need to make a profit off of them though?
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Originally posted by budster101:
And this is wrong because?
Greenpeace rents it's list of donors out...
I've read several articles on the topic, and it would seem they have one word in common.
Ghoulish... This seems to be a concerted effort to slander the parents of Terri Schiavo. When one dontates money to any organization, wether it be Greenpeace, or a conservative organization, one should expect your name to be public domain. It happens all the time, and this has been blown way out of proportion to the real sickness in this case.
This doesn't erase what Michael Schiavo (Saint to be) <sarcasm> has done.
- Kept family frmo Terri at the time of her death
- Cremated her against her parents wishes, and buried her far away, holding a secret funeral where they were not allowed. Not even Catholic. Terri was Catholic after all.
He is a monster.
The reality of it is, they are probably in debt beyond any of our guesses and are having to do this in order to stay away from bankruptcy. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, unlike some of the Euthenasia Cheerleaders in here.
You are all are a sad bunch.
I know you're speaking, but it just sounds like "blah, blah, blah."
Change the record.
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Originally posted by budster101:
He is a monster.
Her parents are making money off her death, while he fought for 15 years to fulfil her wish of not being kept on life support after brain death, and he is a monster.
Hey, whatever.
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I think this action shows just how Terri's parents think-and probably how they have thought all along. She was their ticket to notariety, and now she's paying their bills. They're mercenary and despicable for selling that list.
Michael kept just about everyone away from Terri as she died; would you want the kind of circus that her parents had attracted around in ANY situation? He's not a monster, and maybe his nightmare will end soon.
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Originally posted by budster101:
And this is wrong because?
If they are in debt, let them sell their story. Or if they want donations, let them ask for it and not go back door and sell people's personal info to spammers. That's just low-class and totally demeans Terri Schiavo's name as her parents are trying to make a buck off her name and condition.
My s/o was totally on their side (despite our many heated discussions while this circus was taking place) but even she was disgusted by such a low-class and shameful thing to do.
Budster, you should be ashamed for supporting such an act.
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Originally posted by demograph68:
Why do they need to make a profit off of them though?
Who said they were making a profit?
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Originally posted by budster101:
When one dontates money to any organization, wether it be Greenpeace, or a conservative organization, one should expect your name to be public domain.
Total, utter nonsense. I give money to charities only after assurance that my privacy will be protected. Greenpeace is one of these charities.
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I hate to say it, but it happens all the time. I'm not a supporter of abortion (but feel it should be kept safe/legal), so I marched in a womens rights walk in DC. I was then put on NUMEROUS ultra-liberal mailing lists.
No wonder they were so focused on getting everyone to "sign up" to "support" the cause.
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Originally posted by budster101:
Who said they were making a profit?
Come on... it's not like they gave it to their local church or offered a good cause their mailing list. They sold it to a direct mail house (AKA list broker). These people are generally on par with used car salesman. I know from experience.
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Originally posted by Mastrap:
Total, utter nonsense. I give money to charities only after assurance that my privacy will be protected. Greenpeace is one of these charities.
Sorry, but you are wrong. Greenpeace rents it's list out.
Try again.
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Originally posted by budster101:
Sorry, but you are wrong. Greenpeace rents it's list out.
Try again.
Even if Greenpeace did, it pales in comparison to someone selling out a list to profit from someone's death.
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What a mess of a situation this is. Just fling the family and the husband into a room, lock the door and let them squabble it out amongst themselves.
Just get this crap out of the public's face.
Damn media and politicians giving this the time of day.
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Originally posted by goMac:
Even if Greenpeace did, it pales in comparison to someone selling out a list to profit from someone's death.
Why shouldn't they? They aren't profiting from her death. They are profiting from the events surounding this issue.
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Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
Why shouldn't they? They aren't profiting from her death. They are profiting from the events surounding this issue.
The events that surrounded the issue were based on her death. If it wasn't for her death, the situation wouldn't exist. If the situation didn't exist, they wouldn't have gotten the list. If they didn't have the list, they couldn't sell it. Therefore they are selling her death. Nice caring innocent parents they are.
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Originally posted by budster101:
Who said they were making a profit?
Response Unlimited, which is asking $150 a month for 6,000 names and $500 a month for 4,000 e-mail addresses of people who responded last month to an e-mail plea from Schiavo's father.
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Originally posted by demograph68:
Again, who says they are making any money?
Do you know how much they owe in legal expenses?
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Originally posted by budster101:
Again, who says they are making any money?
Do you know how much they owe in legal expenses?
it's still income. you're really stretching here.
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Originally posted by d4nth3m4n:
it's still income. you're really stretching here.
Not really. Odds are they'll still be in debt afterwards.
That would be negative income.
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Originally posted by budster101:
Again, who says they are making any money?
Do you know how much they owe in legal expenses?
Originally posted by Randman:
If they are in debt, let them sell their story. Or if they want donations, let them ask for it and not go back door and sell people's personal info to spammers. That's just low-class and totally demeans Terri Schiavo's name as her parents are trying to make a buck off her name and condition.
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are you really this petty in real life, or are you just constantly bored and looking for a fight?
IMO. making money = income. (not necessarily profit)
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Originally posted by budster101:
Not really. Odds are they'll still be in debt afterwards.
That would be negative income.
well think of it this way, they paid thousands to keep a chair... i mean their daughter... "alive.
TS's burden out weighed keeping her alive. If you're complaining about her debt now, how much would it be in 5 more years? do you thin she could be "re-habilitated" so that she can jump up in 3 years and start working at Burger King to pay off the hundreds upon thousands of $$$ owed?
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Greenpeace: They attempt to keep animals from extinction... many of them die anyway. They sell their donor list...
Terri Schiavo's Parents: Fight for their daughter's life. They failed. Allowed the sale of the donor list...
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Originally posted by budster101:
Not really. Odds are they'll still be in debt afterwards.
That would be negative income.
You mean "net loss".
Negative income would be the debt they incurred in the first place.
[edit: Oh yeah, you don't need to be a successful profiteer to still be a profiteer.]
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Originally posted by subego:
You mean "net loss".
Negative income would be the debt they incurred in the first place.
[edit: Oh yeah, you don't need to be a successful profiteer to still be a profiteer.]
They are probably trying to break even. Unless you expect they'll survive on their social security income after all the bills are paid monthly...
I wish some people would just shut the hell up. Nobody knows their financial situation, and I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. I also doubt that any donor would mind being solicited by like-minded entities about issues they care about.
I don't see the problem.
They are in no way being profiteers, and that is just utter NONSENSE.
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Originally posted by budster101:
Greenpeace: They attempt to keep animals from extinction... many of them die anyway. They sell their donor list...
Terri Schiavo's Parents: Fight for their daughter's life. They failed. Allowed the sale of the donor list...
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Apples and oranges. "You think they are bad? Well, look at these people!"
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Originally posted by demograph68:
Apples and oranges. "You think they are bad? Well, look at these people!"
You are right, they are Apples and Oranges. Greenpeace is a dispicable organization.
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Originally posted by budster101:
Sorry, but you are wrong. Greenpeace rents it's list out.
Try again.
Not with my name on it, they don't. I have that in writing.
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Originally posted by Mastrap:
Not with my name on it, they don't. I have that in writing.
Riiiiigggghhhhttttt....
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