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godzookie2k
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Oct 11, 2003, 02:34 PM
 
you're going to laugh your tail off.

I've got to use indesign for an upcoming project.

Anyone got any good cyanide recipes?
     
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Oct 12, 2003, 08:22 AM
 
I read something about nerve gas in the war forum
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Oct 12, 2003, 08:48 AM
 
*me guesses that inDesign is something like FrontPage*
     
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Oct 12, 2003, 11:13 AM
 
At least the people working on InDesign are actually doing constructive work and trying to create an amazing project whereas the quark people are sitting on their one trick pony wondering when people will figure out they really, really, really suck.

Quark is an institutionalized product that can really shine and I don't have a problem using it�InDesign, however, is our future.
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Oct 12, 2003, 06:55 PM
 
yose, no offense, but this isn't a quark vs. indesign thread. this is a laugh at the irony of one of the biggest quark proponents on this board being forced to use indesign thread. we can argue quark vs indesign in any of the two thousand other threads on the topic. thank you.

super: huffing nerve gas might be a good option....

ah, screw it.

*dumps hairdryer in bathtub*
     
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Oct 12, 2003, 09:54 PM
 
Fair enough.

An so maybe you should shave all your skin off with a dull butterknife to balance the pain of ID. (from Knotmag)
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Oct 13, 2003, 02:54 PM
 
Originally posted by godzookie2k:
you're going to laugh your tail off.

I've got to use indesign for an upcoming project.

Anyone got any good cyanide recipes?
zookie:

i must admit that made me laugh out loud.

fact is i use quark v.5 myself. have only just begun tinkering with id2. i like it a lot but am still nervous about doing me work in it because i simply cannot afford wasting time troubleshooting any b.s. from the app. wait, that means i should bail on quark.

good luck, zookie. i look forward to hearing your review after being forced to build working files in it for the first time.
     
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Oct 13, 2003, 04:23 PM
 
i am sure zookie will fall in love with id2 and never look back. quark is so 1980s...
     
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Oct 14, 2003, 03:29 AM
 
And let us know if we can help you out getting to grip with the new application, with its many additional, creative and superior features
Always on the run...
     
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Oct 14, 2003, 08:30 PM
 
You can make a semi lethal version of Cyanide by incinerating tear gas (or so I hear). Be careful though, it will contract your muscles so tightly, you'll likely be bent up like a pretzel with several broken bones.

As for InDesign, I think it's proven plenty capable. Would you disagree?
     
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Oct 14, 2003, 08:37 PM
 
I'd agree that its a piece of ****, but hey, whatever.


I'm so tempted to lay this badboy out in quark and import a damn tiff into indesign to keep the client happy, you don't even know.
     
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Oct 14, 2003, 11:27 PM
 
Originally posted by godzookie2k:
I'm so tempted to lay this badboy out in quark and import a damn tiff into indesign to keep the client happy, you don't even know.
It's unlikely they'd ever find out.
     
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Oct 15, 2003, 05:33 AM
 
Zook,
If your job is going to get printed -- contact your printer to ask them how they like having ID files set up.

Ask then what bells and whistles work and which ones don't on tehir ripping station. You don't need one of their prepress guys spending 12 hours on 1 page to get to look right.
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Oct 15, 2003, 09:07 AM
 
Originally posted by Prepress Online:
Zook,
If your job is going to get printed -- contact your printer to ask them how they like having ID files set up.

Ask then what bells and whistles work and which ones don't on tehir ripping station. You don't need one of their prepress guys spending 12 hours on 1 page to get to look right.

we're not going to start another one of those creative vs. prepress pissing matches again, are we?
     
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Oct 15, 2003, 12:03 PM
 
Not try to start a pissing match just trying to help people on both sides.

Until the ripping software is able to deal with these issues, wouldn't you like to know as a designer what will and won't work when the files get ripped on the pre press side.
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Oct 15, 2003, 01:10 PM
 
Originally posted by Prepress Online:
Not try to start a pissing match just trying to help people on both sides.

Until the ripping software is able to deal with these issues, wouldn't you like to know as a designer what will and won't work when the files get ripped on the pre press side.

not pointing at you. you only have 4 posts and probably don't know about some of the skirmishes that have taken place on this exact subject.

'nuff said.
     
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Oct 15, 2003, 01:28 PM
 
No problem, totally understand - -I belong to other forums and I know exactly what your talking about.

No blood - - No foul
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Oct 15, 2003, 03:43 PM
 
hell..if it was up to the prepress people, everyone would still be using quark 3 and AI8
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Oct 16, 2003, 12:23 AM
 
Corys- yeah, and you know what, as a designer I'd be perfectly fine with that. and a few grand richer without the last few useless updates to pshop/ill/quark.

prepress- thanks for the advise, but I'm actually very seriously considering sending them a tiff. but if anything, I really don't have anything to worry about, I don't use stupid ass dropshadows and transparency effects.

art_director: ahhh good times those arguments, good times.
     
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Oct 16, 2003, 12:24 AM
 
*dropshadows and stupid transparency effects.


by jove, I finally found something ID *IS* good for!
     
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Oct 16, 2003, 08:52 AM
 
Originally posted by godzookie2k:
*dropshadows and stupid transparency effects.


by jove, I finally found something ID *IS* good for!


i've found my quark installer cd makes a fine coaster to hold my ice cold anchor steam.
     
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Oct 16, 2003, 11:28 PM
 
ha ha... YAIVQD

Yet Another InDesign vs. Quirk Debate...

PS... Quark rocks...
     
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Oct 17, 2003, 09:41 AM
 
Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
ha ha... YAIVQD

Yet Another InDesign vs. Quirk Debate...

PS... Quark rocks...


imo quark does not rock, it blows. unfortunately i've been stuck using it because my largest client, corporation x, will not accept id2 files.

corporation x is currently testing id2 and may well adopt it in the near future. it seems they've become tired of the arrogance of quark the corporation and are no longer happy with their mythical tech support. since they'll soon upgrade to os x on their production and creative machines they're at a crossroads: quark v.6 or id. many have been urging them to go with id.

bmaqss (bite my arse, quark still sucks.)
     
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Oct 31, 2003, 12:31 PM
 
Originally posted by art_director:
imo quark does not rock, it blows. unfortunately i've been stuck using it because my largest client, corporation x, will not accept id2 files.

corporation x is currently testing id2 and may well adopt it in the near future. it seems they've become tired of the arrogance of quark the corporation and are no longer happy with their mythical tech support. since they'll soon upgrade to os x on their production and creative machines they're at a crossroads: quark v.6 or id. many have been urging them to go with id.

bmaqss (bite my arse, quark still sucks.)
what about using a real pkg--dreamweaver as well
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Oct 31, 2003, 12:35 PM
 
uhhh, we are talking print here? or am I misunderstanding you?
     
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Nov 3, 2003, 09:24 AM
 
Hey godzookie:
How do you like the fact that I reinstalled Jaguar on my computer and now your beloved Quark doesn't let me validate MY LEGAL COPY of the software? I contacted them 4 days ago and no response. I only have one more day to work and after that, my copy becomes a demo. Then I won't be able to work on my Quark 6 files. I'll start saving everything on version 5 but if I forget any, it will be lost until that stupid company decides I can use what I paid for.

Or I crack it....
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Nov 3, 2003, 09:29 AM
 
wahn wahn wahn wahn. don't ****ing come to me with your quark bitching. I didn't make you use it. Make it sound like I run the company or something. Jeeze.
     
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Nov 3, 2003, 10:33 AM
 
Originally posted by designbc:
Hey godzookie:
How do you like the fact that I reinstalled Jaguar on my computer and now your beloved Quark doesn't let me validate MY LEGAL COPY of the software? I contacted them 4 days ago and no response. I only have one more day to work and after that, my copy becomes a demo. Then I won't be able to work on my Quark 6 files. I'll start saving everything on version 5 but if I forget any, it will be lost until that stupid company decides I can use what I paid for.

Or I crack it....

fook quark, crack it.
     
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Nov 3, 2003, 10:45 AM
 
FWIW most studios I've worked in have had cracks for the dongle crap back in the day since forever.
     
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Nov 3, 2003, 11:00 AM
 
Originally posted by godzookie2k:
wahn wahn wahn wahn. don't ****ing come to me with your quark bitching. I didn't make you use it. Make it sound like I run the company or something. Jeeze.
You mean you don't run the company? Then all that passion is for free?
C'mon, tell us the truth, you don't run the company, but at least you receive commission from the sales. That's the only way I can understand such a devotion.
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