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Oct 4, 2005, 09:57 AM
 
From today's Globe and Mail. Tree edition, so no links.

Apparently sales for large SUVs, like Dodge Durango, Ford Expedition and GMC Yukon are down by as much as 50%. Compact car sales are up 17%.

So, some of the people "needing" a large SUV must have decided that they didn't "need" one after all. Amazing.
     
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Originally Posted by Mastrap
From today's Globe and Mail. Tree edition, so no links.

Apparently sales for large SUVs, like Dodge Durango, Ford Expedition and GMC Yukon are down by as much as 50%. Compact car sales are up 17%.

So, some of the people "needing" a large SUV must have decided that they didn't "need" one after all. Amazing.
Is that Canadian people or American people not "needing" a large SUV?
Because, as you know, in America not "needing" an SUV is . . . well, un-American.
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But Cody Dog NEEDS one. I mean, her family couldn't get along without it!
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A man needs an SUV like a fish needs a bicycle.

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Besides, their safer. If I'm going to have an accident while talking on my phone, I'd rather be driving something that will crush whatever I run into.

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Oct 4, 2005, 10:28 AM
 
Originally Posted by Mastrap
Apparently sales for large SUVs, like Dodge Durango, Ford Expedition and GMC Yukon are down by as much as 50%. Compact car sales are up 17%.

So, some of the people "needing" a large SUV must have decided that they didn't "need" one after all.
Or perhaps have decided that because they've got one already they didn't need to buy another?
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Originally Posted by chris v
Besides, their safer. If I'm going to have an accident while talking on my phone, I'd rather be driving something that will crush whatever I run into.
Then buy a Volvo. Mine still gets 29MPG after 75K miles.
     
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Oct 4, 2005, 10:31 AM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy
Or perhaps have decided that because they've got one already they didn't need to buy another?
They're probably all on lease since there's such a desire to have things you can't really afford.
     
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Oct 4, 2005, 10:33 AM
 
Originally Posted by chris v
Besides, they're safer. If I'm going to have an accident while talking on my phone, I'd rather be driving something that will crush whatever I run into.
fixed and:

I love it.

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Originally Posted by turtle777
A man needs an SUV like a fish needs a bicycle.

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Originally Posted by wallinbl
They're probably all on lease since there's such a desire to have things you can't really afford.
So there's probably a huge amount of three-year-old mint-condition SUVs available on the second-hand market then. Why buy new?
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The American car manufacturers just still don't understand the problem. Also a sign of the economy with high oil prices and increasing interest rates.

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Oct 4, 2005, 10:54 AM
 
Originally Posted by chris v
Besides, their safer. If I'm going to have an accident while talking on my phone, I'd rather be driving something that will crush whatever I run into.
They're. Not their. But no they aren't. Statistically, you're 3 times more likely to die if you get into an accident while in an SUV than in a normal car.
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Originally Posted by residentEvil
I own, I can afford, I need/want/desire. STFU.
By that rationale, I should be allowed to smoke near babies. Just cuz I can afford to and want to. Nevermind the well being of everyone else.

What I find funny is that most ATHIESTS I know are more considerate of the welfare of others than most Christians. The Christian families I know are the ones driving SUVs and saying (mistakenly, since they're 3X more likely to die) "Well it's better someone else than my family! I don't care if it's more dangerous to them, I want to be safe!"

Christians are so funny.

Edited for spelling.
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Originally Posted by Doofy
Or perhaps have decided that because they've got one already they didn't need to buy another?

So why didn't they decide that last year? Or the year before? Sales are down because of high gas prices, simple. As far as I am concerned that is a very good thing.

Don't get me wrong, I understand that there is a legitimate need for SUVs and trucks. Chauffeuring the kids to school isn't one of them.

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Oct 4, 2005, 11:04 AM
 
Originally Posted by Mastrap
So why didn't they decide that last year? Or the year before?
It could be just coincidence. Short of seeing the second-hand sales data for SUVs, we have no way of knowing.
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Oct 4, 2005, 11:12 AM
 
Originally Posted by chris v
Besides, their safer. If I'm going to have an accident while talking on my phone, I'd rather be driving something that will crush whatever I run into.
Maybe you shouldn't talk on the phone while driving?
     
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Oct 4, 2005, 11:20 AM
 
Originally Posted by wallinbl
Then buy a Volvo. Mine still gets 29MPG after 75K miles.
Volvos. Rock. Period.
     
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Originally Posted by quote68
They're. Not their. But no they aren't. Statistically, you're 3 times more likely to die if you get into an accident while in an SUV than in a normal car.
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Originally Posted by teney7
Volvos. Rock. Period.
In a kind of wimpy, girlish, geeky, Emo way. Not in a proper rock 'n' roll way.
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Oct 4, 2005, 11:33 AM
 
I knew you were being sarcastic, but I wanted to reiterate the fact htat SUVs aren't safe.
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Originally Posted by Doofy
In a kind of intelligent way. Not in a ignorant redneck dumbass AMERICA **** YEAH way.
Fixed.
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Originally Posted by dcmacdaddy
Is that Canadian people or American people not "needing" a large SUV?
Because, as you know, in America not "needing" an SUV is . . . well, un-American.
Here is the article. SUV sales are way down in both countries. It's about time too.
     
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Oct 4, 2005, 11:50 AM
 
I never have said it was the safest vehicle. I never said it gets good gas milage and doesn't pollute. I never said I need it cause of bad weather. Etc.

I said it fits my needs and my comfort where no other vehicle would at the price I was willing to pay. I would have loved the new wagon volvo, for example, but the fact is I'm not comfortable in it.

End of discussion. Period. And f all of you saying go on a diet. I am trying. But that will never help leg and head room in a vehicle which is where the problem is. So again, stop telling me what I can and can't drive.
     
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Originally Posted by quote68
They're. Not their.
Originally Posted by quote68
By that rational, I should be allowed to smoke near babies. Just cuz I can afford to and want to. Nevermind the well being of everyone else.

What I find funny is that most ATHIESTS I know are more considerate of the well fare of others than most Christians.
Rationale. Not rational.
Welfare. Not well fare.

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Some can and will deny it, because it sucks to be wrong. Mastrap's right though: it's no coincidence (that was funny to read, btw).
     
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Originally Posted by cjrivera
Rationale. Not rational.
Welfare. Not well fare.

Thanks. I hate not knowing what I'm screwing up.
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Originally Posted by TETENAL
Maybe you shouldn't talk on the phone while driving?

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Originally Posted by Doofy
It could be just coincidence. Short of seeing the second-hand sales data for SUVs, we have no way of knowing.

Well you should come and have a look at the 'pre-owned cars' on dealers lot. They are not selling either....
     
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Originally Posted by Doofy
In a kind of wimpy, girlish, geeky, Emo way. Not in a proper rock 'n' roll way.

No

     
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don't those big ass trucks suck as much gas as suv's do?

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Originally Posted by nredman
don't those big ass trucks suck as much gas as suv's do?
Truck sales are tanking, too, from the NPR news report I heard this morning, anyway. Of course we all know that NPR makes everything up, since they're govt. sponsored librul eelights, so discount that as you see fit.

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While I can’t stand the busy-body, nose in everyone else’s business, dictate to everyone what they can and can’t own types, I have to say this is good news.

Yes people can drive whatever the hell they like. It’s a free country, despite the most earnest wishes of the busy-body crowd to cram their bullcrap down everyone else’s throats.

But it would be nice to see more people that don’t actually need an SUV drive something a bit more fuel-efficient. If for no other reason, to force the car companies to offer more options, and to do more development on even more efficient and alternative fuel vehicles. The automakers will always go where the market is. It’s about time people got tired of shelling out so much for gas, and demanded more fuel efficiency.

Ultimately, I wish we’d collectively get together, develop alternative energy sources, and tell the whole of the oil producing Middle East to go back to pounding sand or whatever else they were doing before we ever burdened them so terribly by turning them into oil gazillionaires. Pull everything out of the region, and let’s see them lighten the F up after nobody wants to line up and pay them through the nose for the black gold anymore.
     
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Originally Posted by iMOTOR
This is one of the ugliest Volvo's EVAR. What were they thinking ?

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if one drives an SUV, then he might not have a small penis. But if one has a small penis, then he must drive an SUV.
     
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Originally Posted by Sealobo
if one drives an SUV, then he might not have a small penis. But if one has a small penis, then he must drive an SUV.
What about if he rides a motorcycle?
     
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Originally Posted by chris v
Besides, their safer. If I'm going to have an accident while talking on my phone, I'd rather be driving something that will crush whatever I run into.
     
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Originally Posted by iMOTOR
No
Yes. A properly rock 'n' roll vehicle wouldn't have those overdesigned tail-lights and would be rear-wheel drive.

Now, that Brabus posted in another thread is properly rock 'n' roll. If you had them leave out the traction control when they built it for you.
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Originally Posted by Doofy
Yes. A properly rock 'n' roll vehicle wouldn't have those overdesigned tail-lights and would be rear-wheel drive.

Now, that Brabus posted in another thread is properly rock 'n' roll. If you had them leave out the traction control when they built it for you.
If you take a closer look, this volvo had four-wheel drive (it's the AWD, all-wheel drive on the back) which is arguably superior to rear-wheel drive.
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What about if he rides a motorcycle?
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Originally Posted by OreoCookie
If you take a closer look, this volvo had four-wheel drive (it's the AWD, all-wheel drive on the back) which is arguably superior to rear-wheel drive.
Yes. AWD - nowhere near as rock 'n' roll as RWD.

Technically superior? Yes.
Proper rock 'n' roll? No. Too safe. Like an Emo band rather than Motorhead. A proper rock 'n' roll car should attempt to kill you every time you drive it (much like any 3-year-old-plus TVR model does).

So. Point proven. Volvo does not rock.

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Originally Posted by Doofy
Yes. AWD - nowhere near as rock 'n' roll as RWD.

Technically superior? Yes.
Proper rock 'n' roll? No. Too safe. Like an Emo band rather than Motorhead. A proper rock 'n' roll car should attempt to kill you every time you drive it (much like any 3-year-old-plus TVR model does).

So. Point proven. Volvo does not rock.

If you see it that way, then you're right
If you drive a RWD in winter on a snow-covered street, it's also rock 'n' roll (Especially if you shut off ESP )
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I DO "need" an SUV.

I have FOUR - count 'em - four children. My friend's son is staying here - I have two 13 year olds in my house right now. I do animal rescue and I am constantly hauling those things around.

Do I grimace when I fill up the tank? Yes.

But do I have a choice? No.

What I am doing is making sure that all of my running around is done in a day and I don't make any extra trips for things.

Now, while we're discussing SUV sales "tanking," why don't you also discuss how the economy is going downhill...FAST? People are starting to default on credit card payments. Not too hard given that gas is so expensive and as a result EVERYTHING goes up, not just a gallon of gas at a pump. Oh, and Alan Greenspan is so "worried" about the credit card issue that he's demanding that credit card companies double their minimum payments from 2% to 4%.

Link.

We're in deep sh*t in this country and don't blame it on the SUV drivers.

     
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Oh, and I don't owe one dime to any credit card companies. Not one dime, not one nickel, not one penny.

So, while you're turning up your nose at my SUV ask yourselves how much money you owe to credit card companies? I think you should worry about your own problems instead of worrying about whether or not I drive an SUV.

     
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Originally Posted by Cody Dawg
I DO "need" an SUV.

I have FOUR - count 'em - four children. My friend's son is staying here - I have two 13 year olds in my house right now. I do animal rescue and I am constantly hauling those things around.

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