[JustinHorne]

Anyone noticed verifying/repairing permissions in 10.5 take a looooong time?
I turned it on last night, did other stuff for no reason, came back in about 15 minutes, it still said it had started, nothing more.. Usually it takes me 2 minutes max. I cancelled it, and wen tback to work. Few minutes later, I heard the fans going crazy. Opened up iStat, and there's a process called InstallDB taking up as much of the processing power as it can, and the cores were at about 185 degrees...

What's up with this?

[Kevin]

I use Diskwarrior for that. And Applejack. Both take less time. The latter free, but doesn't work with 10.5 yet.

[Hal Itosis]

Originally Posted by Kevin 

I use Diskwarrior for that. And Applejack. Both take less time. The latter free, but doesn't work with 10.5 yet.

 
Mine took 5 minutes the first day,
and the last time I tried it was...

2007-11-02 01:39:51 -0400: Verify permissions for “MacX”
2007-11-02 01:46:50 -0400: Warning: SUID file "System/Library/CoreServices/
RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent"
has been modified and will not be repaired.
2007-11-02 01:58:11 -0400:
2007-11-02 01:58:11 -0400: Permissions verification complete

^ 17 minutes and 20 seconds ^

So Kevin, how much time does a permission run take on your Mac?
It should be a simple matter of checking the log file. N'est-ce pas?

[JustinHorne]

I timed it and let it run until completion, 38 minutes. :o

[Art Vandelay]

Mine runs in under 90 seconds.

[Simon]

Originally Posted by Art Vandelay 

Mine runs in under 90 seconds.

Same here. But in the process I also get strange output like:

[codex]Warning: SUID file "System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent" has been modified and will not be repaired.
ACL found but not expected on "Applications".
ACL found but not expected on "Library".
[/codex]

The first line appeared after the recent ARD update. The other two have been there ever since I installed Leopard.

[Hal Itosis]

Originally Posted by Art Vandelay 

Mine runs in under 90 seconds.

Strange... yet most interesting.

The vast majority of folks (not just here) are reporting 5 minutes minimum.
So I wonder if yours is working better... or perhaps not working enough.

What hath Apple wrought?

[Simon]

Originally Posted by Simon 

But in the process I also get strange output like:
[codex]ACL found but not expected on "Applications".
ACL found but not expected on "Library".
[/codex]

I think I now managed to solve the problem. If I do a
[codex]ls -le /[/codex]
I can see /Applications and /Library have an additional ACL entry. I then did a
[codex]sudo chmod -a# 0 /Applications
sudo chmod -a# 0 /Library[/codex]
and repaired permissions once more. The error messages are now gone!

What I still don't understand is why /Applications and /Library had extra ACL entries in the first place?

[Appleman]

I would say i has to do with Time Machine.
Switch it off, and you'll see it doesn't take that much time anymore.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Hal Itosis 

So Kevin, how much time does a permission run take on your Mac?
It should be a simple matter of checking the log file. N'est-ce pas?

dang, um I wasn't trying to run a content. Applejack did it in a nicer way that seemed to work. I know how to fix permissions in the terminal. I just liked doing it the Applejack way better.

[edoras]

I tried to run Applejack... It said I cannot run under "root"... Why is that so..? If yes, how can I solve the problem..?

[PaperNotes]

Repair Disk Permissions is substituted by Debug Code™ at the moment.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by edoras 

I tried to run Applejack... It said I cannot run under "root"... Why is that so..? If yes, how can I solve the problem..?

Applejack wont work with 10.5 because Apple disabled root. A move I can understand somewhat...
But they need to give that option to enable it. IMHO.

Originally Posted by PaperNotes 

Repair Disk Permissions is substituted by Debug Code™ at the moment.

I've had programs not work properly when permissions where messed up.

[PaperNotes]

Originally Posted by Kevin 

I've had programs not work properly when permissions where messed up.

After I quit waiting for Disk Utility to fix perms I launched Sys Prefs and my Network panel wouldn't load. I had to reboot. I was pretty pleased with Leopard when I finally got it the other day but now it is getting flaky on me. I sense a couple of very large software updates will be in order.

[Kevin]

OH I do as well. I just wish they'd get here.