[jerseyfreeze]

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel...ky%2F&lp=ja_en

[Algernnon]

Looks nice so far, what little we can see of it, that is.

[brn]

Ooh! Ooh! A theme with almost exactly that neon light style thingie was my dream to do like a year ago or so, now i don't have to! Great

[benign]

A little too similar to Takashi Izawa's AlumiteX for my liking...



Surely no one could ever make three true classics in a row.
But this theme may still have a string in it's boot by the time
Mr.Daisuke releases it.

[rhythmicmoose]

It's the same tone as Alumite, but looks glossier and a lot cleaner. Can't wait!

[Patcarla]

Originally posted by rhythmicmoose:
It's the same tone as Alumite, but looks glossier and a lot cleaner. Can't wait!

Alumite is a very clean and well designed theme...

[rhythmicmoose]

Originally posted by Patcarla:
Alumite is a very clean and well designed theme...

I'm not knocking it. But the lines on Daisuke Yamashita's theme are sharper and more defined. That's always been one of the thing's that bugs me about Takashi Izawa's themes. A lot of the areas around the elements seem blurry. Alumite is really nice, I used to use it in fact, but it's a bit soft for my tastes.

[brutal]

Wow! It looks really good! Can't wait for it's release!

[Ozzpot]

In many white type theme, how much groping, whether the fact that it is different from other ones can be done it increases, but you use basically and the selfishness is good, the sea urchin we would like to make if possible simple, you think that is.



Yeah whatever Daisuke... nice looking theme tho.

[deej5871]

It seems to me that any theme with wide widgets people think looks like Alumite... First there was COBRAHQ's mockup that someone said it looked like it. Now this.. I think it looks pretty unique if you ask me. Although, no one asked me did they ?

[rhythmicmoose]

Originally posted by Ozzpot:
In many white type theme, how much groping, whether the fact that it is different from other ones can be done it increases, but you use basically and the selfishness is good, the sea urchin we would like to make if possible simple, you think that is.



Yeah whatever Daisuke... nice looking theme tho.

Haha!

Gotta love those Babelfish translations. Here's a useful app if you enjoyed Daisuke's post: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/14236

And Deej, you're right. It's silly. Eh... I guess every theme ever made looks a bit like Alumite.

[justinp]

I like it except for the long thin widgets

[NetworkShadow]

Originally posted by benign:
A little too similar to Takashi Izawa's AlumiteX for my liking...



Surely no one could ever make three true classics in a row.
But this theme may still have a string in it's boot by the time
Mr.Daisuke releases it.

Does everyone freaking think every grey/white theme look like AlumiteX?! Just cuz the long widgets it's not automatically a AlumiteX clone. It looks nice.

[brutal]

Similar?!





..no way.

[benign]

Originally posted by brutal:
Similar?!





..no way.

Yeah, very similar - you are looking too close to see.

I am leaving room for a few sucker punches from Daisuke
to turn this around, but compared to the uniqueness of
his previous two - this, from the mock-up at least - IMHO
looks a little dry - even with the flashing buttons.


The 'X+-' widgets always make a theme truly special
- It's stand out design feature - Daisuke last two designs
were exceptional.

[ender2002]

Originally posted by benign:
Yeah, very similar - you are looking too close to see.

I am leaving room for a few sucker punches from Daisuke
to turn this around, but compared to the uniqueness of
his previous two - this, from the mock-up at least - IMHO
looks a little dry - even with the flashing buttons.


The 'X+-' widgets always make a theme truly special
- It's stand out design feature - Daisuke last two designs
were exceptional.

You are a m0r0n. What do you mean "looking to close to see"? WTF is that supposed to mean. They are clearly different in their details. OH YEAH, lets take a step back, no, make that fifteen. YEAH they look IDENTICAL. But then so would aqua with milk, and etc. The basic, distinct details of the theme make them different. IMHO The theme is completely different. There is more gloss, less gradient, and the blue leds. if you cant see that, I think you're looking to far away too see.

[benign]

Originally posted by ender2002:
You are a m0r0n. What do you mean "looking to close to see"? WTF is that supposed to mean...

My comment explained that for me the most distinctive
detail of a themes design are it's (X+-) widgets - Myopia
it seems is your most distinctive feature.

[rhythmicmoose]

Can we please keep the namecalling to a minimum? This board has been a mess the last few days. Thanks.

[swiz]

Originally posted by ender2002:
.. IMHO The theme is completely different.

Lets not go over board now, that theme is anything BUT completely different from Izawa's theme. It does what I see many themes doing these days, looking very similar to current themes but with their own little twist on them, in some instances improving them. I'd bet dollars to donuts that if you were to look through Daisuke's .tpark file you run across an Alumilite element or two.

[NetworkShadow]

Originally posted by swiz:
Lets not go over board now, that theme is anything BUT completely different from Izawa's theme. It does what I see many themes doing these days, looking very similar to current themes but with their own little twist on them, in some instances improving them. I'd bet dollars to donuts that if you were to look through Daisuke's .tpark file you run across an Alumilite element or two.

The simmilaritys are skin deep; wow rounded push buttons, long widgets, and a sunken wiget cap. It looks more like Siwz's Studio Pro in white than it looks like Alumilite because it's got that plastic look to it. I'm sure Daisuke wasn't even thinking about Alumilite when he designed it. Make a white/grey theme and it's going to look a bit like every other white/grey theme to a point.

[benign]

Originally posted by NetworkShadow:
The simmilaritys are skin deep; wow rounded push buttons, long widgets, and a sunken wiget cap. It looks more like Siwz's Studio Pro in white than it looks like Alumilite because it's got that plastic look to it. I'm sure Daisuke wasn't even thinking about Alumilite when he designed it. Make a white/grey theme and it's going to look a bit like every other white/grey theme to a point.

I am a user and big fan of Mr.Daisuke's work since
way back when he made kaleidoscope schemes,
and I am not 'diss'ing' his work, but you are just
blind mad drunk on the milk of divine stupidness
if you A) don't think it's a reworking/homage of
Alumilite and B) If it's anywhere near the look
or feel of the sexy, pouting goodness of Studio Pro.

[justinp]

Arguing over something that is subjective is stupid.

Whining that one theme looks like another theme is as well. Christ, better not use round widgets, clearly that would be an Aqua ripoff.

There is only so much you can change when you theme OS X and you're bound to end up with elements that look like they came from theme X or theme Y. There is not enough flexibility to make any theme 100% unique. Nor does a theme need to look completely unique to be good.

[Sage]

I think it's more than fair to say that DSKY took some inspiration from Izawa's work, and not just Alumite. Obviously, one can see the Alumite inspiration in the stretched and sunken widgets. There's also inspiration from Izawa's Shinobi theme, with the glowing elements, especially the ones under the segment tabs.

None of this is "bad" though – We all take inspiration from somewhere or something when creating art. His creation is maybe a little too close to the original inspiration for some people's tastes, but many (like me) will appreciate the refinements he's made. There's no reason to get all worked up about it.

[benign]

Originally posted by justinp:
Arguing over something that is subjective is stupid.

Whining that one theme looks like another theme is as well. Christ, better not use round widgets, clearly that would be an Aqua ripoff. :rolleyes:

There is only so much you can change when you theme OS X and you're bound to end up with elements that look like they came from theme X or theme Y. There is not enough flexibility to make any theme 100% unique. Nor does a theme need to look completely unique to be good.

:thumbsdow

No-one is arguing here, Just some sycophantic
juveniles not fully reading posts - is all.

[NetworkShadow]

Originally posted by benign:
No-one is arguing here, Just some sycophantic
juveniles not fully reading posts - is all.

This is the 3rd theme I've seen compared to AlumiteX, and I think it's a lot less like AlumiteX than a few of the mockup contest entrys or other mockups in the past... I'm just a bit sick of that comparison and this theme is a lot less like AlumiteX than it is like Milk, GUIpod, or Studio Pro.

benign:
A little too similar to Takashi Izawa's AlumiteX for my liking...

And that sounded like you were just writing it off as a rip-off just then and there. That's what got me started... I don't think it's a good comparison to start with anyway.

[benign]

Originally posted by NetworkShadow:
This is the 3rd theme I've seen compared to AlumiteX, and I think it's a lot less like AlumiteX than a few of the mockup contest entrys or other mockups in the past... I'm just a bit sick of that comparison and this theme is a lot less like AlumiteX than it is like Milk, GUIpod, or Studio Pro.

And that sounded like you were just writing it off as a rip-off just then and there. That's what got me started... I don't think it's a good comparison to start with anyway.

You've got every right to answer back, and I
understand your point but I just don't agree.
This new theme is more AlumiteX than any I
have seen - produced as it is by what I would
consider more than just a dabbler or hack.

Unique 'X+-' widgets are Mr.Daisuke's forte.
As I have mentioned before - I hope the finished
result is of the same incredibly high standard that
his last two themes proved he is more than capable
of producing.

If it's a twist on something old or boldly new,
we shall have to wait and see - if we agree.

[justinp]

Originally posted by benign:
...incredibly high standard that
his last two themes proved he is more than capable
of producing.

Am I missing something or is this second theme you keep mentioning Kowloon?

[NetworkShadow]

Originally posted by justinp:
Am I missing something or is this second theme you keep mentioning Kowloon?

That's his first theme. If you ask me Kowloon looks a bit like a square smooth stripes, no big deal right? I don't see why he shouldn't use the "- - -" widgets for once, it's not like there's an over population of themes with widgets like that.

[phillryu]

Originally posted by benign:
or feel of the sexy, pouting goodness of Studio Pro.

Benign, you are a freaking poet. You should write reviews for us hehe.

[deej5871]

While I agree that unique X-+ widgets are important, there is only so much you can innovate in a 14x16 px space..(that is the size right?, I'm not on my computer right now so I can't check). Plus all themes are inherently alike because they are confined to Aqua guidelines. And like someone said I don't see you saying every theme with round widgets looks like another theme with round widgets .

I've never heard iStyle compared with Milk but they both have round white widgets (granted, iStyle's aren't quite as white, but they could be compared with Chrome Milk *and* there is also the difference that Daisuke's widgets are a lot thinner than Alumite's but no one cares). And again about all white theme's have round white buttons, many of them with a plastic feel to them but no one compares those.

If you ask me AlumiteX looks more like Milk with it's smooth gradients than it looks like Daisuke's new theme.. I also think that the only thing that makes Daisuke's new theme look more like Alumite than another theme (Pro Plastic for instance..) is the wide widgets, and it seems to me that all themes with wide widgets (like COBRAHQ's mockup, which I mentioned earlier in this topic) are compared to Alumite.

But like I said before, not all themes with round widgets are compared to each other. You people need to remember that there are Aqua guidelines that all themers have to follow and in the 14x16 space provided there are only so many shapes you can make that still allow for clickability (unless of course you leave the click mask the same) and visibility.

Maybe the reason benign thinks the theme's look alike is because he's the one with "myopia" and he say to looks at themes from far away ...

[benign]

Originally posted by deej5871:

Maybe the reason benign thinks the theme's look alike is because he's the one with "myopia" and he say to looks at themes from far away :rolleyes:...

Is Engwish your first language ?

[quandarry]

luv it! ...isn't this fun?

[deej5871]

Originally posted by benign:
Is Engwish your first language ?

Oh, I forgot one "s"! Big whoop..

How about you counter one of my points intelligently rather than expose my typo?

[Caesar2099]

Originally posted by quandarry:


luv it! ...isn't this fun?

Sweeet, rocket launcher from UT...

oh right and the people who think those two themes are similar are obviously sickly obsessed with themes to notice such a subtle differences. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to macthemes.net and press the refresh button until something new comes up.

[brutal]

Argh! I want this theme now!

[olorin15]

Originally posted by benign:
look or feel of the sexy, pouting goodness of Studio Pro.

Dude, Studio Pro is an Aqua mod We all know you love it, but still ... it's very close to Aqua.

divine stupidness

Is Engwish your first language ?

Is it your first language? "stupidness" is not a word in English, "stupidity" is ...

In other words, stop being so pushy and offensive. Relax. And try not to sound so much like a friggin snob.

[Zimphire]

benign please keep your pretentious games in the lounge.

[ender2002]

I think benign is full of himself.


Just look at him. Look at how insecure he is. He's so transparent.

[fireside]

i bet soon in one of benign's new posts he going to say that he "was joking all along."

[Altix]

It's funny, but benign is one of the few who actually talks sense in here, and says something constructive without resorting to the usual fanboyisms.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Altix:
It's funny, but benign is one of the few who actually talks sense in here, and says something constructive without resorting to the usual fanboyisms.

Eh, I have never showed any fanboyisms in here. benign makes a statement, and when people disagree he starts he pretentious condescending gibberish, then claims no one has any clue but him.

It's quite painful to watch.

[Altix]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Eh, I have never showed any fanboyisms in here. benign makes a statement, and when people disagree he starts he pretentious condescending gibberish, then claims no one has any clue but him.

It's quite painful to watch.

I wasn't singling out any one peson, but I don't think benign deserves the type of responses he gets at times. In my view, I don't think he is particularly pretentious in his approach, sice if he has the intellectual capacity to describe things the way he does, then that's just him.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Altix:
I wasn't singling out any one peson, but I don't think benign deserves the type of responses he gets at times. In my view, I don't think he is particularly pretentious in his approach, sice if he has the intellectual capacity to describe things the way he does, then that's just him.

He muddies his waters to appear deep.

Him and Dio both have the same approach.

They are both just two rainbows in the dark.

[Altix]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
He muddies his waters to appear deep.

Him and Dio both have the same approach.

They are both just two rainbows in the dark.

You mocked Ronnie!!!

[ryaxnb]

Originally posted by benign:
Yeah, very similar - you are looking too close to see.

I am leaving room for a few sucker punches from Daisuke
to turn this around, but compared to the uniqueness of
his previous two - this, from the mock-up at least - IMHO
looks a little dry - even with the flashing buttons.


The 'X+-' widgets always make a theme truly special
- It's stand out design feature - Daisuke last two designs
were exceptional.

They look slightly alike... but only because they have a similar light-gray tone. Not a ripoff.

[deej5871]

Originally posted by ryaxnb:
They look slightly alike... but only because they have a similar light-gray tone. Not a ripoff.

I believe I already said something like that before in response to benign, except in much more detail..but I'm glad I have supporters.

Originally posted by Altix:
I wasn't singling out any one peson, but I don't think benign deserves the type of responses he gets at times. In my view, I don't think he is particularly pretentious in his approach, sice if he has the intellectual capacity to describe things the way he does, then that's just him.

If he is as intellectual as you say then I think he should have the capacity to defend himself. However, I have yet to see him post, so maybe he just doesn't care.

[brutal]

so.. any news on this! I want it BAD!

[kwyjiboy]

Originally posted by benign:
A little too similar to Takashi Izawa's AlumiteX for my liking...



Surely no one could ever make three true classics in a row.
But this theme may still have a string in it's boot by the time
Mr.Daisuke releases it.

I guess you aren't looking very hard. They look nothing alike to me. Hey, want to trade me your G5 for my G4? They're very similar. I bet you're a hit with used car salesmen.

[kwyjiboy]

Originally posted by NetworkShadow:
The simmilaritys are skin deep; wow rounded push buttons, long widgets, and a sunken wiget cap.

He has checkboxes! OMFG! COPYING ALUMITE! I saw this EXACT design in the clouds. He's copying GOD, now!

Idiocy aside, I have been visiting his site daily for weeks hoping for this release. I love it.

[sixz]

Originally posted by kwyjiboy:
I guess you aren't looking very hard. They look nothing alike to me. Hey, want to trade me your G5 for my G4? They're very similar. I bet you're a hit with used car salesmen.

Just like your SIG, your mouths too big.