[PacHead]

Screw these people.

Anybody who enters this thread and even remotely agrees with these fascists should be banned from ever owning an Apple computer for life.

On October 10, 2006, an Islamic website posted a message alerting Muslims to what it claims is a new insult to Islam. According to the message, the cube-shaped building which is being constructed in New York City, on Fifth Avenue between 58th and 59th Streets in midtown Manhattan, is clearly meant to provoke Muslims. The fact that the building resembles the Ka’ba, is called “Apple Mecca,” is intended to be open 24 hours a day like the Ka’ba, and moreover, contains bars selling alcoholic beverages, constitutes a blatant insult to Islam. The message urges Muslims to spread this alert, in hope that “Muslims will be able to stop the project.”



http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfga...&entry_id=4203

http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD131506

[ambush]

This forum gets more pathetic every day.

[turtle777]

Selling alcohol inside the Apple Store ?
What do they have ? Apple beer ?

Gosh, I gotta get to NY !

-t

[Rumor]

Hard apple cider!

[Person Man]

Originally Posted by PacHead

Screw these people.

POLITICAL LOUNGE!

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by Person Man

POLITICAL LOUNGE!

Come on, this is clearly satire, not politics.

-t

[Millennium]

And so we have a bunch of immature, paranoid folks crying insult where none could possibly be intended. This is news... why?

[paul w]

It is very much akin to a holy site: open 24 hours.

I usually go once a week to worship Apple products and leave feeling somehow refreshed.

Its black cothed clergy are always friendly, always willing to listen to me bare my soul and share their wisdom.

Should my faith be challenged (and my logic board fail), it is there that I turn first.

Sometimes I even make a donation and am rewarded not in the afterlife, but here on earth (heavenly iPod nano maybe?).

[Person Man]

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

Come on, this is clearly satire, not politics.

-t

Source?

Considering it came from PacHead and that he's been banned from the Poli Lounge several times, I have a hard time believing that this one was made up... unless the "serves alcoholic beverages" thing is what makes it satire.

[Kerrigan]

[FONT="Book Antiqua"]Mohammedanism is a Religion of Peace.[/FONT]

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by Millennium

This is news... why?

I'm sorry that you don't feel that this is newsworthy. It's not like anybody has ever gotten killed for insulting a certain belief system.

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by Person Man

POLITICAL LOUNGE!

Yeah, this thread should clearly be hidden away. We wouldn't want too many Apple users to know about this now would we ?

[Person Man]

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

Come on, this is clearly satire, not politics.

-t

This thread is going to turn political. In fact, it already has. See Kerrigan's post, above. I still maintain that this thread belongs in the Political Lounge.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

[FONT="Book Antiqua"]Mohammedanism is a Religion of Peace.[/FONT]

I like the size of your font, big boy.

[Mithras]

Is that a Book Antiqua in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

[Chuckit]

Banned from the PL, PacHead?

[d4nth3m4n]

no, seriously, alcohol? i'm going to be in the city with the better part of friday to kill...

[NYCFarmboy]

well whatever, the store is beautiful.

[Zeeb]

since when did someone's blog become a credible news source?

If its true the best thing to be done is too ignore them. I doubt anyone would take this seriously.

[Spook E]

imagine chucking a brick at thing, the noise would be beautiful

[Dakar]

God you can find enough connections if you look hard enough.

Those people who look through the bible using letters aligned diagonally, vertically, etc., to phrophesize events after they happen -- they could probably fins one for the 5th avenue Apple store.

[The Godfather]

Neither of the 2 articles has a link to such a website. I am calling "fabrication by lame blogger".

[sek929]

I expected more from PacHead....









wait, no I didn't.

[Kerrigan]

Well, Muslims may or may not be happy about the Apple Store. But in the mean time, at least they have more cartoons to go apeshit over.

BBC NEWS | Europe | Row over Danish cartoon escalates

[invisibleX]

Originally Posted by PacHead

I'm sorry that you don't feel that this is newsworthy. It's not like anybody has ever gotten killed for insulting a certain belief system.

I'd love to hear of a religion that has not resulted in deaths. Please.

Its not news because some silly website (individuals opinion) doesn't like it.

[invisibleX]

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Well, Muslims may or may not be happy about the Apple Store. But in the mean time, at least they have more cartoons to go apeshit over.

BBC NEWS | Europe | Row over Danish cartoon escalates

I wonder who is beating the dead horse more. The muslims or the posters here.

[macintologist]

On October 10, 2006, an Islamic website posted a message alerting Muslims to what it claims is a new insult to Islam.

Which Islamic website?

[vmarks]

It actually appears to have stemmed from this April 10th editorial at SFGate.com Not Oct. 10th.

SFGate: Culture Blog! : All kneel before the holy holy

If it was posted at an Islamic website on Oct. 10th, it was reviving the older (non) story.

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by The Godfather

I am calling "fabrication by lame blogger".

You would make for a terrible poker player because your intuitional skills are rather poor and embarrassingly pathetic.

> Dear Sir,
>
> Apple Mecca is an insult to all Muslims, we wonder why
> you intend to insult and irritate Muslims, we never
> insulted any religion, and Muslims respect all
> religions in the world.
>
> Apple Computer is a worldwide company, and its
> opinions and actions should be separated of policy,
> religion, and anything that would affect its relations
> with its customers.
>
> The consequences of this action might affect relations
> between the east and the west, and you will be
> responsible for any tension in our relationship. Mecca
> is the place where all Muslims travel to for
> pilgrimage (Hajj), this is a holy place for Muslims,
> and we won't accept such an insult for a sacred place
> in our religion.
>
> Therefore we request an apology immediately, and we
> request from Apple inc to change the name of this
> store, or else we will take the necessary steps to
> apply a boycott for everything related to the U.S, and
> this boycott will continue until you change the name
> of this store.
>
> Sincerely,
http://www.mail-archive.com/hidayahn.../msg11806.html

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by ambush

This forum gets more pathetic every day.

Well atleast when you post anyhow.

The forum didn't cause those people to complain.

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by sek929

I expected more from PacHead....

In the future, if you ever get beheaded for walking around with a Macbook, perhaps you'll realize that this thread isn't about me, no matter how hard certain diversionists and forum trolls such as yourself try to reflect attention away from the actual topic.

[D. S. Troyer]

Apple Jihad.

[FireWire]

Was the store even officially called "Apple Mecca" at one point? The only places where I find these two words together are on some blog or rumor sites. Apple can't be held responsible for nicknames given by enthusiasts or other people...

Second, it it true that they serve alcoholic beverage in the store? I didn't see anything to that effect on the store's site. And furthermore, what would be the problem if they did in fact sell drinks there?

[marden]

October 10, 2006

Fitzgerald: 95 things that fuel Muslim extremism
“The American presence in Iraq fuels Muslim extremism.”
-- a conclusion concluded from the National Intelligence Estimate by many concluders in solemn conclusory conclave assembled.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/013525.php#more

Ninety-Five Other Things That Also Fuel Muslim Extremism:

1. Salman Rushdie’s “The Satanic Verses.”
2. The British government’s protection of Salman Rushdie.
3. The American coup against Mossadegh in 1953, cited by some Iranians as the direct cause of the takeover of Iran by the Ayatollah Khomeini more than 25 years later.
4. The remarks of Pim Fortuyn about Muslim attitudes toward liberal Dutch mores.
5. The movie by Theo van Gogh about the subjection of women in Islam.
6. The election of Ayaan Hirsi Ali to the Dutch Parliament.
7. Hindus passing by mosques as Friday Prayers end.
8. The failure of Americans in Iraq to sufficiently subdue the Sunni insurgents.
9. The failure of Americans in Iraq to sufficiently subdue the Shi’a militias.
10. The failure of Americans in Iraq to sufficiently subdue the Kurdish desire for independence.

Go to the link to see the rest of the list of things that fuel Muslim extremism.

And add the Apple store to that list.

[analogika]

I really wish that people would at least *try* to think for twenty seconds before using the term "fascist". Overuse of the word cheapens history and, oddly, used to be pretty much a prerogative of the radical left.

It's slightly ironic to see the radical right so eager to throw it around.

Then again, PacHead's posts have always been thick with irony.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by analogika

I really wish that people would at least *try* to think for twenty seconds before using the term "fascist". Overuse of the word cheapens history and, oddly, used to be pretty much a prerogative of the radical left.

It's slightly ironic to see the radical right so eager to throw it around.

Then again, PacHead's posts have always been thick with irony.

What does this ad-hominem really have to do with the discussion at hand?

[vmarks]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Well atleast when you post anyhow.

The forum didn't cause those people to complain.

What does this ad hominem have to do with the discussion at hand?

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by analogika

I really wish that people would at least *try* to think for twenty seconds before using the term "fascist". Overuse of the word cheapens history and, oddly, used to be pretty much a prerogative of the radical left.

The word "fascist" does not belong only to history. To consign it to history disallows the correct observation of fascist tendencies in modern governments. To disallow such observation leads to a lessening in the ability to resist such tendencies.

Neither does the word belong to Germans... ...although, like most things you turn your hand to you tend to excel at it.

Neither does it belong to "the left"... ...especially since a lot of right-wingers are now properly educating themselves as to the correct placing of "fascism" in the political spectrum; left of centre.

[sek929]

Originally Posted by PacHead

In the future, if you ever get beheaded for walking around with a Macbook, perhaps you'll realize that this thread isn't about me, no matter how hard certain diversionists and forum trolls such as yourself try to reflect attention away from the actual topic.

I'm a forum troll?

Are you retar.....wait, nevermind

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[DLQ2006]

Originally Posted by PacHead

I'm sorry that you don't feel that this is newsworthy. It's not like anybody has ever gotten killed for insulting a certain belief system.

Exactly. And not like they aren't spreading their islamic fascism westward. They can do whatever the hell like like in their own countries, but come to mine and tell us what we can and can not do for now on, and they can F*** right off.

[BlueSky]

What does this harmonica ad have to do with the discussion at hand?

[moodymonster]

in other news, the same muslims are offended by the brain dead because they believe they have a monopoly on that level of intellectual thinking.

[moodymonster]

if this isn't a wind up...

... and even if it is, guessing by some of the posts on that sfgate link who agree it is offensive, some people... I don't even know what to say. pricks.

[Monique]

I know what Steve Jobs can tell them: F... you.

This is more and more ridiculous. I looked at it and could not make out what they were whining about again.

They do not own the name mecca. It just means the highest point, not religion or muslim. They are just a bunch of lazy losers.

[Chuckit]

Actually, Mecca is the name of the Muslim holy city.

[rambo47]

Wow, the people must be desperate for something to get their collective panties in a bunch over, huh? And if there is no insult, they'll just insert a few "facts" to help stir the righteous indignation up to a more desirable level.

"Apple Mecca" - The first and only time I heard the Apple Store at 5th Ave. called that was when the people said it.

"Serves alcoholic beverages" - yeah, just make up stuff, people. Why not? You're on a roll!

I guess anything shaped like the 5th Ave. Apple Store is going to be fair game for these fun-loving loonies. I might actually find their antics funny if they didn't tend to go on murderous killing sprees towards nuns, cartoonists, etc.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by vmarks

What does this ad hominem have to do with the discussion at hand?

That was actually a joke. Hence the

If he felt offended, I sincerely apologize.

[lpkmckenna]

I'm not surprised that the anti-Muslim brigade of MacNN believed this bullsh!t "news story." The second I saw it I knew it was rubbish.

[goMac]

"Fascist religious maniacs upset over NYC Apple Store"

Yeah, not so much:

http://www.applegazette.com/mac/musl...pple-nyc-cube/

[zwiebel_]

Someone has not taken their meds. Again.