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Shaddim · Sep 16, 2013, 02:05 AM

I don't watch unless Dvorak is on, I like weekly grump binging.

subego · Sep 16, 2013, 02:12 AM

I'm curious enough to hear him bitch about the iPhone I'm actually cueing it up as a podcast. They left it out of today's reruns for whatever reason.

ort888 · Sep 16, 2013, 12:20 PM

He probably won't even bitch about it. I don't think he really cares that much about any of this stuff.

Although last year was really bad. Leo was on vacation when the iPhone launched and the panel that week spent about 5 minutes on the iPhone 5 before moving on.

Hey, you know, it's only the most popular tech product of the year, but whatever, lets just move on.

subego · Sep 16, 2013, 03:35 PM

He had one good line when he used his hot dog article as an example of the demise of journalism.

Two things missed in the show.

First, a Chicago hot dog does not need to be Vienna. ****... what a garbage weiner.

Second, the most important aspect of a Chicago dog is no ketchup.

subego · Sep 22, 2013, 10:16 PM

Guest host: Lane

Sargent
Stevens
Shwood

This pleases me.

ort888 · Sep 22, 2013, 10:24 PM

That's a killer lineup.

subego · Sep 22, 2013, 10:30 PM

I like it when Leo leaves because everyone starts bringing their A-game.

I'm positive they all feel like they're auditioning for his job.

The Final Dakar · Sep 23, 2013, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by subego

Guest host: Lane

Sargent
Stevens
Shwood

This pleases me.

Thats a fantastic lineup of only 'S'

subego · Sep 24, 2013, 11:14 PM

TWiT After Dark finally exists. They call it TWiT After Dark.

Of course, it's hosted by the Padre.

subego · Sep 29, 2013, 10:06 PM

Guest host: Merritt

Morris (Natali)
Wood
Jury
Howell

This also pleases me.

subego · Sep 29, 2013, 10:18 PM

Didn't even hit me that's a BOL reunion.

subego · Oct 6, 2013, 05:33 PM

Guest host: The Padre

Norton
Shwood
Beja

Still pleased.

The Final Dakar · Oct 7, 2013, 12:36 PM

Not a good ep. Balazar just doesn't have it.

subego · Oct 7, 2013, 01:39 PM

Anything stick out? I only half listened.

For my part I was getting sick of Leo, but now after three weeks I kinda want him back.

The Final Dakar · Oct 7, 2013, 01:44 PM

I found him boring and lacking personality. His jokes were really zzzzzzzz

The Final Dakar · Oct 7, 2013, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by subego

For my part I was getting sick of Leo, but now after three weeks I kinda want him back.

Funny, after last week I was like "Leo being gone is great."

Now, I think part of the problem is Leo means a high chance of Dvorak which means a show by the numbers, but I guess he just runs a little long. I used to love the meandering but the other hosts do it to in a much more "efficient" manner.

subego · Oct 7, 2013, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

I found him boring and lacking personality. His jokes were really zzzzzzzz

Interesting. He's both funny and personable, so now I almost want to watch it again to see what fizzled.

The only thing about him which consistently bothers me is when he drops into "homily" voice.

ort888 · Oct 8, 2013, 03:03 PM

Because what we really needed was another 45 minute discussion on government spying and privacy on the internet.

I think the big problem this week is that nothing all that interesting happened. Sometimes that means the hosts go off the rails and have a really interesting talk on some non-news topic and sometimes it's just kinda dull. This one is dull so far. I'm about 2/3 of the way through.

subego · Oct 8, 2013, 03:27 PM

To be fair, big data and enterprise are the Padre's deal. Plus, the NSA pushes Norton and Shwood's buttons.

ort888 · Oct 8, 2013, 04:21 PM

I don't disagree that it's an important topic, but I feel like it's gotten from 20-60 minutes of talk time in every show for the last 3 months.

subego · Oct 13, 2013, 04:25 AM

Laporte returns!

Magid
Pournelle
Reid

The Final Dakar · Oct 13, 2013, 12:57 PM

Magid and Pournelle. Sounds awful.

subego · Oct 13, 2013, 03:26 PM

Get. Off. My. Lawn.

subego · Oct 17, 2013, 02:43 AM

Gotta hand it to Chad. He's taking over hosting The Giz Wiz from Leo. That's hosting two shows, while also producing and tech directing the network's three flagship shows.

That's some serious work ethic. Props.

The Final Dakar · Oct 17, 2013, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by subego

Gotta hand it to Chad. He's taking over hosting The Giz Wiz from Leo. That's hosting two shows, while also producing and tech directing the network's three flagship shows.

That's some serious work ethic. Props.

Didn't you worry that taking on that workload killed producers earlier in the thread? Or maybe it was just hosting that tempted them to leave.

subego · Oct 17, 2013, 02:55 PM

Absolutely. Making this an "eat crow" type of thing.

If Chad didn't have behind-the-scenes shit in order, I doubt Leo would have added to the workload like that.

Not just giving him a new job, but letting him fill the Leo shoes.

subego · Oct 20, 2013, 03:50 PM

Scobleizer
Silverman
Dash
Dvorak

You knew he'd be back...

subego · 04:36 PM

Thurston
~~Bilton~~
Shwood
Dvorak

The Final Dakar · Oct 28, 2013, 03:19 PM

What a surprise, Shwood + Thurston = good show.

Also, Leo not knowing the difference between a Wii and a Wii U pleases me to no end.

subego · Oct 28, 2013, 03:26 PM

Dvorak was pretty pathetic.

We got the joke the first time. We're not laughing because it's not funny.

subego · Oct 28, 2013, 03:27 PM

Interesting inside baseball that Shwood won't leave Texas because of income tax.

Jawbone54 · Nov 2, 2013, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by subego

Interesting inside baseball that Shwood won't leave Texas because of income tax.

This is the common refrain of Texas entrepreneurs. Even Dwight Howard was rumored to have chosen Houston last summer because of the lack of a state income tax.

You guys made me reassess Shwood last year. His high-octane delivery used to annoy me, but he really does have some of the best comments every time he appears on the show.

subego · Nov 4, 2013, 12:26 AM

What consistently gets me is how nice he is. It's totally at odds with his schtick, which I see as a flavor of Criss Angel douchebag.

subego · Nov 4, 2013, 01:37 AM

Joire
Stevens
Beja

ort888 · Nov 4, 2013, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

What a surprise, Shwood + Thurston = good show.

Also, Leo not knowing the difference between a Wii and a Wii U pleases me to no end.

It's makes both Nintendo and Leo come off looking really bad.

Firstly, Leo should know the difference. It's his job to the know the difference.

Second, holy crap, if even someone like Leo doesn't know the difference, Nintendo screwed up their messaging BAD.

The Final Dakar · Nov 4, 2013, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by ort888

It's makes both Nintendo and Leo come off looking really bad.

Firstly, Leo should know the difference. It's his job to the know the difference.

Second, holy crap, if even someone like Leo doesn't know the difference, Nintendo screwed up their messaging BAD.

While I do think he's slipping, I don't see the Wii U really being something Leo should know about it the grand scheme of things. There's no game show on the network and he barely games.

subego · Nov 4, 2013, 11:50 AM

He's something of a PC and mobile gamer, just not into the consoles.

The Final Dakar · Nov 4, 2013, 11:52 AM

I didn't feel like typing that out, but yes

subego · Nov 4, 2013, 11:55 AM

Oh, and get this... they just started alpha on a new show for gamers. It's more like a regular TWiT show.

They're also doing a game show, game show. Like, with geek trivia.

ort888 · Nov 4, 2013, 12:08 PM

I don't know, there are only 3 main game consoles and they change about every 5 -7 years.

Even if you don't use the consoles all that much, simply knowing what they are should be part of the knowledge arsenal of someone running a tech news broadcast site and doing a talk radio show about technology.

I know he can't know everything, but that is something he should really know.

Jawbone54 · Nov 4, 2013, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by ort888

It's makes both Nintendo and Leo come off looking really bad.

Firstly, Leo should know the difference. It's his job to the know the difference.

Second, holy crap, if even someone like Leo doesn't know the difference, Nintendo screwed up their messaging BAD.

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

While I do think he's slipping, I don't see the Wii U really being something Leo should know about it the grand scheme of things. There's no game show on the network and he barely games.

TWiT is more Engadget and less IGN.

But...it is kind of embarrassing. Leo should probably know the difference, and be able to comment that Nintendo did a horrible job getting their message out. Instead, he proves they did a horrible job getting their message out by not knowing the difference himself? He is almost 60, though.

The Final Dakar · Nov 4, 2013, 12:33 PM

What i will say is that the Wii U had to come up on the show at release and whatever was discussed it looks like Leo forgot it.

subego · 06:58 PM

Reed
Bilton
Harris
~~Warren~~

The Final Dakar · Nov 11, 2013, 11:13 AM

Was it me or was the intro really ingratiating to Bilton? I felt like it was the only way Leo could have gotten him on.

subego · Nov 11, 2013, 12:00 PM

It was.

I'm positive there wasn't a prior agreement, but Leo really likes him. Also, Bilton was supposed to leave early, so Leo was front-loading. Bilton changed his schedule without telling anyone.

The Final Dakar · Nov 11, 2013, 12:11 PM

Still, putting his book in frame leaning against his laptop was behavior I've never seen him engage on for other guests. He likes to promote guests but this was over the top.

subego · Nov 11, 2013, 12:26 PM

I'd say it goes back to liking Bilton. Leo's questioned why he's been so hard to get back.

subego · Nov 11, 2013, 12:27 PM

Didn't he do the book thing for Morgan Webb's husband?

subego · Nov 11, 2013, 12:38 PM

I enjoyed the "****" ratio.

The Final Dakar · Nov 11, 2013, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by subego

I'd say it goes back to liking Bilton. Leo's questioned why he's been so hard to get back.

So, mancrush? Unrequited bromance?