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Jul 9, 2002, 09:12 PM
 
Is it worth buying an iPod?
     
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by zurek106:
<strong>Is it worth buying an iPod?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">I'm definitely getting one... but I'm just going to wait until after MacWorld (July17-19) to see if prices drop or new models come out.

After all, I don't leave for college until late August, so I can afford to wait a while.
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Jul 10, 2002, 01:17 AM
 
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by [APi]TheMan:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by zurek106:
<strong>Is it worth buying an iPod?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">I'm definitely getting one... but I'm just going to wait until after MacWorld (July17-19) to see if prices drop or new models come out.

After all, I don't leave for college until late August, so I can afford to wait a while. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">That is exactly what I am planning on doing too, I just wanted to see what everyone out there thought of the iPod. Bu if the prices dont go down then I am going to buy a refurbished unit.
     
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Jul 10, 2002, 01:26 AM
 
I think its worth it , thats why I got me one back in november

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Jul 10, 2002, 03:36 AM
 
Since we are so close to MWNY, I'm holding out. If nothing new shows up or is hinted at the conference, I'm grabbing myself a 10 gig model.
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Jul 10, 2002, 04:12 AM
 
A suggest you seriously consider buying from compusa. Since I am a student I thought about buying from the Apple store to save thirty bucks. I went with Compusa because of the warranty for 30 dollars. I didn't want a hassle, so I paid more to go to Compusa and I didn't want to deal with any BS about the warranty. No shipping boxes to Apple! I have had this damn thing replaced two time by Compusa in the last four months. 1st time it crashed my finder and simply wouldn't work ( that was the initial plug in). And the second fiasco was the result of the machine going to sleep while the iPod was plugged in and the iPod needing to be initialized when it awoke. Nothing could fix this and I had to reformat my hard drive. All apps. were broken, printer wouldn't work, all apps gave an arcane message if any activity was attempted. Computer was dead. Or a lot of terminal work needed to be done to fix this. (Maybe?)

To top it all off I have to go into Compusa tomorrow to get it replaced because today it won't work without being plugged into a wall. And the sad thing is I still love this thing and would never give it up. At least I get a new one tomorrow. I wish I could feel this way about a chick!

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Jul 10, 2002, 01:27 PM
 
Buy an iPod? In a word... Yes!

Simply my favorite gadget ever. If you don't need the 10GB model, head on over to SmallDog. They're selling refurbished 5GB iPods for $299. That's a hundred bucks cheaper than most of the rest of us paid.

Or do you wait for Macworld in case of something new or further price reductions? Hmmmmmmm...
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Jul 10, 2002, 04:22 PM
 
the most disappointing thing about the ipod, is the sound quality (IF you're an audiophile, or whatever).
other than that, its worth it.
     
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Jul 10, 2002, 04:26 PM
 
Not to start the age-old argument, but if you're that big of an audiophile you shouldn't be listening to mp3s...

The iPod is one of the best investments I've made... I use it more than any other "toy" I own and completely feel that it was worth buying the day it came out... My wife really wants one and i think she may eventually get a "hand-me-down" and I'll pick up the new 20 gig one that's coming out <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by 7Macfreak:
<strong>the most disappointing thing about the ipod, is the sound quality (IF you're an audiophile, or whatever).
other than that, its worth it.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">
     
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Jul 12, 2002, 03:04 PM
 
Wow, the results are overwhelming!! I was sure that there would be some people who wouldve thought that the iPod just wasnt worth the money. But I guess everyone who is on MacNN is a strong suporter of anything Apple does.
     
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Jul 12, 2002, 03:08 PM
 
Or a strong supporter of a great product... I have several friends who only have wintel boxes that have bought iPods and use the third-party software products to transfer their music.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by zurek106:
<strong>Wow, the results are overwhelming!! I was sure that there would be some people who wouldve thought that the iPod just wasnt worth the money. But I guess everyone who is on MacNN is a strong suporter of anything Apple does. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">
     
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Jul 13, 2002, 01:28 AM
 
LOL I casted the ONLY no vote!
But then again, I actually own one, so I'm somewhat of a hypocrite (sp?). I own it 'cuz I got it for $199 sorta as an employee discount...which made it worth it. I think it's even worth it at $250, but that's 'bout as high as I value the 5 GB unit.

Up side:
1) doesn't miss a beat at decoding 320Kbps encoded MP3 (best quality) during my 35 minute jogs.
2) saved my @$$ when I ran out of HD spaces for one reason or another...it was the perfect size to hold stuff that you'll be burning to DVDs, so it went from an MP3 player to a dedicated DVD-burning HD...
3) it can drive most headphones you can find without an amp, which is much better than any CD player.

down side:
1) iTunes under OS 9 consistantly frooze when I plugged in the iPod, which is ALL the time, since I use it as a HD. (OS X was a little better...iTunes try to access it for a few minutes and give up) It turned out that the excessive amount of HD usage damaged my directory somehow, and only got rid of the problem...since I had no data on it by that point, it was okay
2) Since it's a HD, it's bound to break after excessive shock/usage...so if you plan to rip lots of CDs at Highest quality using LAME (people like me who wants nothing but the best quality), you better have a copy of those 5 GB saved up somewhere...during the last 8 months or so, I had to re-format the iPod 3+ times Granted last one might be fixable with Norton or the likes, but when the sector containing vital info dies for one reason or another, you can't do anything But reformat...
3) a little too expensive at the current price...if it drops to $299, it'll be worth considering. However, not long after the Industry raved over iPod, Wired gave another review of a similar device coming soon...with color screen and everything. Might not be as small as the iPod, but A HELL OF A LOT better than the Nomad Jukebox...

But then again, since we are a bunch of Mac-heads, I guess we are used to pay a little extra for cosmetics, neatness, and such...though it was a little too high maintaince as a "mac product" for me (aside from other failed harddrive stories I heard as a part-timer for Apple 'n all) So the final word is at &lt;$250, it's worth every penny; at $250-$300, it's so-so; &gt;$300 is not worth it.
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Jul 13, 2002, 02:21 AM
 
one thing to consider is that a new version of the Nomad just came out at 20 & 40 gigs and now uses Firewire as well. But it's ALOT bigger, but if that's not an issue you might want to consider that. i think they said it was the same price $500 (40 gig I think).

Personaly even the iPod is too big. Rio 500 all the way baby!
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Jul 13, 2002, 01:19 PM
 
I bought the iPod at $199 as well (special school one-day discount). For that price I am entirely happy with it. It is invaluable when travelling.
     
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Jul 14, 2002, 05:00 AM
 
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by zurek106:
<strong>Is it worth buying an iPod?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">I voted no, but that's not a comment on the iPod as is, as such. I want a more versatile media device for off loading my digicam pics as well as music.
     
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Jul 14, 2002, 09:50 AM
 
I voted NO, just because of the following reasons:

Downsides:
1.I'm all MiniDisc
2.The iPod is too big
3.It's weight is way too high
4.I have my doubts about the standard headphones that come with the iPod (they only have 20 to 20,000 Hz freq. response)
5.IMO the iPod's circular-choosing-thing (can't find a good word for it) isn't that well built and tends to have a "loose"-feeling.
6.the quality of MP3 (duh) (could improve with AAC) (way inferior to ATRAC)
7.Only 10 hour battery life (but it's a Li-Pol so that's good)
8.Since your Mac has a line-out you can perfectly connect it to a MiniDisc deck or portable MD-recorder and record your MP3's to MiniDisc (if MP3 sounds good enough for you then recording it with the analog connection will be good too, especially if you have a MD recorder with ATRAC Type-R (almost all new models have it now I think)).
9.And if you have MD you can record CD's at full-quality instead of ripping it first and compressing.
10.The iPod is *very* expensive for what it offers (but, heck that's why it's an Apple)

upsides:
1.It an Apple
2.FireWire Disk Mode
3.Nice design

P.S. when your jogging for example with you iPod, isn't it possible that your hard movements can damage the hard drives surface ? (So, if this is the case it is the NUMBER ONE reason for NOT buying an iPod)

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Jul 14, 2002, 09:56 AM
 
quite simply the best personal music player Ive bought, of any format - Im yet to try NetMD, but its not mac compatible.

Have no qualms about sound quality, even though Im a Denon component owner, and am used to things sounding VERY good - just get yourself a decent set of earphones, like some nice Sennheisers.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by Vanquish:
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P.S. when your jogging for example with you iPod, isn't it possible that your hard movements can damage the hard drives surface ? (So, if this is the case it is the NUMBER ONE reason for NOT buying an iPod)
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">On apples website their is a FAQ for iPod's and their question/response is:

Q. Can I use iPod while running, biking, or doing other activiities? Will my music skip?
A. iPod was designed for people with an active lifestyle. It is compact and lightweight enough to take with you wherever you go. It was designed to fit comfortably in the palm of your hand or to be slipped into a pocket or purse for easy transport. iPod offers an industry-leading 20 minutes of skip protectio, so you can run, mountain bike, or rock climb without missing a beat.
     
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Jul 14, 2002, 01:36 PM
 
Does Apple ever introduce new products after the first day at MWNY?
     
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Jul 14, 2002, 02:09 PM
 
I have an iPod and my family between us have four. Two of those four are now dead and I mean seriously dead - I have read every discussion going on anywhere and nothing will repair them. Furthermore they both broke outside of the 90 day warranty (the fact that it is 90 days is something that I really think is [email protected]%ty - when all your other products come with a year's warranty it is hardly a vote of confidence in the product).

THAT said however, BUY ONE! Just do it from CompUSA which by all accounts has a pretty good warranty for $30. It is worth the full $400 I paid for the original 5Gb unit and I never go anywhere without it.

Easily the best product Apple have made in a long time (Hey, I have the hottest, noisiest notebook in the world with a paint job that I could have bettered myself - guess which one! ;-)
     
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by yongfook:
<strong>just get yourself a decent set of earphones, like some nice Sennheisers.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Depending on how much budget you have, but under US$100, Senn's HD-495 might be the only headphone that's worth it's price. Grado SR-60/80 are probably better than other Senn's at comparable price, and in my case, I got a Sony MDR-V6, which is the most analytic headphones under US$100. But then, that's entirely another story
The ear-buds are handy during long jogs...as for HD scratch, yeah, it's definitely a posibility...which (i guess) is also why the solid-state 1GB Compact Flash is so much more expensive than the 1GB Microdrive. (solid-state don't have that problem)
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Jul 15, 2002, 03:51 PM
 
I tell everyone who asks me about mine. It is hands down the best music device I have ever owned. I love my iPod...
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif"><strong>I'm just going to wait until after MacWorld to see if prices drop or new models come out.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">I'd wait. Probably see a price drop for sure, considering they didn't sell as many as they'd of liked. As fora new model, that's anybodys guess.
     
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Jul 15, 2002, 08:37 PM
 
I say yes!!! I don't have one but my sister does and I borrow it a lot. I use it in my car via an audio tape adapter and I even take it to work and hook up the computers external speakers to it. It's so convenient to be able to take all your music with you anywhere you go. I love it!!

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Jul 17, 2002, 03:56 PM
 
Definitely worth it. I got my 10GB three weeks ago, and used it on the Seattle-To-Portland bicycle thingie last weekend. It was perfect for the trip: small, light, easy to operate with one hand, and the 10-hour battery life is just right for a day of bicycling (and it recharges nice and quickly.)

The thing is rugged as well. I'd been worried about vibration causing problems with the hard drive. But at one point during the ride, I hit a bump and my iPod flew out of my bike bag, bouncing off my bike's aluminum frame and landing hard on the asphault behind me. It kept right on playing, and hasn't failed on me yet.

I do wish it were a little more serviceable (I know I'll need to have the battery replaced at some point, given the amount of use I'm putting it through), but otherwise no complaints at all. And the new ones they just introduced at MacWorld look even better.
     
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Jul 18, 2002, 09:59 AM
 
Well I'm a 5GB iPod owner, and it's great.

So great in fact that I have ordered a 20GB model as well !!!

I ordered it right after the Keynote, can't wait to load my 4000+ songs.

Not sure what to do with the 5GB one thought, might just leave it in the iBook bag and use it for extra storage and backup.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by dazuma:
<strong>I do wish it were a little more serviceable (I know I'll need to have the battery replaced at some point, given the amount of use I'm putting it through), but otherwise no complaints at all. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">That's a good point I hadn't thought of... What happens when the battery does need replacing? Can it even be replaced? And is there an adapter to allow charging directly through an eletrical outlet rather than through FireWire?
     
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The adaptor is included with the purchase of an iPod.
     
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Jul 20, 2002, 01:35 PM
 
Hmm, this shouldn't have been a "you have to view the results before voting" poll, since I don't have an iPod and I have the exact same question, whether or not I should get one for college in the fall. I'd imagine carrying around tunes (not to mention files) would be extremely handy, but it is $300 - $400.

If anyone wanted to sell their old 5GB iPod (looking Parky's way <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> ) I may be interested in it, tho it would have to be pretty cheap. The touch-sensitive thing is just slick...
     
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by slider:
<strong>The adaptor is included with the purchase of an iPod.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Yay
     
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Just made the jump and have purchased my 10 gigger iPod, thank you, yes yes, thank you. Ahh that's just too much thank you.
     
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by rohan:
<strong>I have an iPod and my family between us have four. Two of those four are now dead and I mean seriously dead - I have read every discussion going on anywhere and nothing will repair them. Furthermore they both broke outside of the 90 day warranty (the fact that it is 90 days is something that I really think is [email protected]%ty - when all your other products come with a year's warranty it is hardly a vote of confidence in the product).

THAT said however, BUY ONE! Just do it from CompUSA which by all accounts has a pretty good warranty for $30. It is worth the full $400 I paid for the original 5Gb unit and I never go anywhere without it.

Easily the best product Apple have made in a long time (Hey, I have the hottest, noisiest notebook in the world with a paint job that I could have bettered myself - guess which one! ;-)</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">This might be useful to you. From the begining of Jan 2002 all computers and periphals purchased within the EU have a 2 warranty. It's an EU wide law. Try that with Apple Italy and I bet you get a result. Good luck!
     
   
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