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satchmo · Oct 23, 2001, 03:58 PM

It seems every agrees that the iPod is cool (not groundbreaking) but not at $399.
If Apple realizes that it should be say $299, how do they change the price without looking foolish. They must have learned their lesson with the Cube. It took them way too long to lower the price (or did they ever?)

I can't see Jobs saying, "Uh...it seems we couldn't pull the wool over your eyes. We're now lowering the iPod by $100"l

Orders are now being taken and I suspect it would be difficult to refund $100 to everyone who has preordered.

philzilla · Oct 23, 2001, 04:49 PM

maybe Santa Jobs will slash a few bucks off for xmas? hell, he'd look really generous then, i guess...

dtriska · Oct 23, 2001, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by satchmo:
It seems every agrees that the iPod is cool (not groundbreaking) but not at $399.
If Apple realizes that it should be say $299, how do they change the price without looking foolish. They must have learned their lesson with the Cube. It took them way too long to lower the price (or did they ever?)

I can't see Jobs saying, "Uh...it seems we couldn't pull the wool over your eyes. We're now lowering the iPod by $100"l

Orders are now being taken and I suspect it would be difficult to refund $100 to everyone who has preordered.

What are you talking about?

I want you to find me a 5 GB combo MP3 player and FireWire drive the size of a pack of cards for less than $400 US.

lextek · Oct 23, 2001, 05:17 PM

I think for what your getting the price is right. I just ordered mine.

Bob

JFischel · Oct 23, 2001, 05:19 PM

Just ordered mine too...When do we think we'll get them...I too am excited about the multiple uses of the system. I mean you can drop all your data, code, mp3s, porn *evil grin*, everything onto one little machine and hook it up to another and have everything available...

funkboy · Oct 23, 2001, 05:43 PM

Is there a USB<->FireWire converter?
I ask this for one reason: digital cameras.

This could be THE best digital photo accessory out there - simply dump all your photos onto the iPod when your expensive SmartMedia card gets all full.
However, most cameras use USB to sync to a computer...

My head is spinning with this and a digital Canon S300... one in one pocket, one in another, take absolutely as many pictures as you can stand! Woo!

drainyoo · Oct 23, 2001, 06:09 PM

For your information it is groudbreaking and 400 is a great price!! What is wrong with you. Look at the specs and learn what it does. Stop being a cheap bastard!!!!

vvedge · Oct 23, 2001, 06:42 PM

you know what... you want one for free? Go steal one... Gimme a call from jail listening to your brand new iPod...

Besides... retailers are probably taking orders, the device is leaving warehouses soon, I think its kinda late to make any last minute moves...

nana2 · Oct 23, 2001, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by funkboy:
Is there a USB<->FireWire converter?
I ask this for one reason: digital cameras.

This could be THE best digital photo accessory out there - simply dump all your photos onto the iPod when your expensive SmartMedia card gets all full.
However, most cameras use USB to sync to a computer...

My head is spinning with this and a digital Canon S300... one in one pocket, one in another, take absolutely as many pictures as you can stand! Woo!

Sounds like you need one of these: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nixvuedigitalalbum/

Or one of these (old review price is prob lower now): http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/digitalwallet/

Happy snapping

P.S. I empty 3 batteries and I still can't fill my 1GB Microdrive in my Nikon 995. Haven't got to the 650 pic mark yet

[ 10-23-2001: Message edited by: nana2 ]

PHoynak · Oct 23, 2001, 10:48 PM

I have a dumb question. I have over 1000 songs in my mp3 collection.. If it transfers the mp3's automatically wouldn't that make it harder to move the songs I want to? Otherwise the price is a little high but it seems to be the best thing going. I just got an Archos 6 gb player which I will use for a while. I just found an OS X driver for it so I won't change any time soon.

rado30 · Oct 24, 2001, 01:13 PM

I recently bought a Archos 6000 from my buddy for a $100 bucks, I knew about the announcement, but like everyone else I didn't know what it was going to be, and wouldn't you know it Apple releases their own Jukebox player.......crrraaaapppp, oh well thats technology I guess.

Anyway I think the iPod is going to go BIG: 5gb of space for data and songs, firewire transfer, small foot print, rechargeable lithum battery, intergraded with iTunes 2...need I say more. Yeah, the price is higher than the high-end Nomad or other Jukebox players but this is what (along with a New Newton) Mac users have been waiting for, finally a digital device made by Apple-for-Apple. Macs are definitely becoming "The digital hub" that Jobs wants them to be, and who knows maybe the price will drop for X-Mas and I can give my Archos to my wife.

Also PHoynak, were did you find the OS X driver for the Archos 6000?

rado

Richard Clark · Oct 24, 2001, 01:31 PM

Jobs can do whatever he wants. That's been obvious when the Cube was announced. But then he backtreded and tried to make changes. By then it was too late. I'm afraid the same thing will happen with iPod. UNLESS he makes modifications quickly as in the next couple weeks. It would be a good PR deal.

Also it would be cool if they would come up with a packaged deal for an iPod with an iBook.

Think Different

PHoynak · Oct 24, 2001, 03:52 PM

I know...I just bought an Archos also

. If I had only known about this I would buy it. The Archos is a little big for your pocket. Maybe if I sell it....

JFischel · Oct 24, 2001, 04:08 PM

Did anyone happen to read the FAQ? You can drop a SYSTEM FOLDER on it and boot any firewire equipped Macintosh Computer. I want to see your Rio 500 do that...*smile*

I think once people understand what this thing can do the negative comments will really subside.

spectre · Oct 24, 2001, 04:22 PM

People are almost looking at the iPod as though Apple is waaay overpricing them and making a huge profit from these babies. And you know what..? thats wrong. Does anyone know how much those mini 5gb HD's cost? They cost almost as much as the iPod itself costs.

Do I think its priced too high? Yes. Do I think its overpiced? No. Apple could essentially make a larger MP3 player, with the same type of HD as all the other mp3 players use, for less. Apple made a tough decision, and It'll be interesting to see if its successfull or not.

BTW, I think XLR8yourmac has some info on the pricing of the HD's used in the iPod. Check it out here.

Ben

Oh... I'd loooove to own one of these players. Very cool, but I just dont have the money.

Nebagakid · Oct 24, 2001, 05:45 PM

Isnt the only form of buying something from the apple stores using a credit card, and can't you refund money easily using plastic?

Also, retailers , if they have taken depostists, can be like... "hey, you dont hvae to pay all that scrilla"

word

Oct 24, 2001, 09:42 PM

just so people know, education-discounted price for an iPod is $369.

Oct 25, 2001, 03:18 AM

Rarely do I get a chance to skool someone who is obviously so new to this but...

Refunds are ridiculously easy on credit cards. Easier than cash.

Originally posted by Nebagakid:
Isnt the only form of buying something from the apple stores using a credit card, and can't you refund money easily using plastic?

Also, retailers , if they have taken depostists, can be like... "hey, you dont hvae to pay all that scrilla"

word