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Gossamer · Apr 9, 2007, 11:28 AM

I say it's a feature. Heck, a lot of people might actually WANT this on their truck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v36MCcRPRTc

Dakar² · Apr 9, 2007, 11:28 AM

For the YouTube impaired, explain.

Big Mac · Apr 9, 2007, 11:29 AM

Definitely a feature!

Gossamer · Apr 9, 2007, 11:31 AM

Dakar² · Apr 9, 2007, 11:33 AM

Are they using Mexican gasoline?

Gossamer · Apr 9, 2007, 12:04 PM

This is from the YouTube comments:

i work at a ford dealership.. here is the deal 08's are out.. they hav an air injector designed to burn unburned fuel before the particulate filter.. the idle injector pulse is too high causing excess unburned fuel causing a flame out the tailpipe, 10 minutes to reprogram the pcm and problem solved

Doofy · Apr 9, 2007, 12:17 PM

08's are out

What are we? Early April 07?

I think I'll wait for when the 09s come out in August.

Jawbone54 · Apr 9, 2007, 12:34 PM

Considering the truck to car ratio in my "neck o' the woods," I'm surprised I haven't seen some country boys blazing down the streets with flames coming out of their tailpipes and loving every second of it.

olePigeon · Apr 9, 2007, 01:32 PM

Don't some people pay money for that on purpose? Sounds like a free upgrade to me.

Gossamer · Apr 9, 2007, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

Don't some people pay money for that on purpose? Sounds like a free upgrade to me.

The only problem is that the engine goes down to 4 cylinders due to overheating so the other 4 pump air to try and cool it. But yes, I've seen kits to get your car to emit flame. I won't try and say I haven't thought of trying this too...

IceEnclosure · Apr 9, 2007, 05:10 PM

All my friends cars shoot flames on up/down shifts when they're on a crazy tune.

I was racing a second gen RX-7 one time at about 140 mph, I was right on his rear bumper. He shot a flame right onto my windshield and clear over my car. Cereal.

Just sayin'.

Dakar² · Apr 9, 2007, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by IceEnclosure

All my friends cars shoot flames on up/down shifts when they're on a crazy tune.

I was racing a second gen RX-7 one time at about 140 mph, I was right on his rear bumper. He shot a flame right onto my windshield and clear over my car. Cereal.

Just sayin'.

So, did you beat Brian O' Conner and win his Eclipse?

IceEnclosure · Apr 9, 2007, 05:46 PM

RX-7, and nah, it was kind of even. He wasn't pullin' on me, and I was just about topped out. 150+ and things get a little scary, even with this wing and full suspension.

mac128k-1984 · Apr 9, 2007, 07:36 PM

Heck, I'd love to see that on my dodge dakota

cjrivera · Apr 9, 2007, 09:18 PM

So from the general sentiment on this board, Ford should be recalling all of the Super Dutys that DON'T have a flame thrower exhaust and install this feature on all their trucks.

centerchannel68 · Apr 9, 2007, 09:19 PM

Hello and welcome to like 2 weeks ago.

Chuckit · 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by Doofy

What are we? Early April 07?

I think I'll wait for when the 09s come out in August.

Isn't that how they usually do it? Cars for the next year always come out halfway through the current year.

By the way, can you get this on a Maxima?

Buckaroo · Apr 9, 2007, 09:47 PM

That is so cool. It's sounds like something is wrong with maybe an exhaust valve. All that tapping noise. Anyone here who may have some knowledge willing to share?

macintologist · Apr 9, 2007, 11:05 PM

Suckers are getting punished for buying a Ford in the first place. Next time, get a Toyota you dimwits

Lateralus · Apr 9, 2007, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by macintologist

Suckers are getting punished for buying a Ford in the first place. Next time, get a Toyota you dimwits

Oh, yeah, because buying a Toyota is so fool-proof.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13046349/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16697719/

I'll take fire from my exhaust over loss of steering, thanks.

macintologist · Apr 9, 2007, 11:28 PM

If you ever read consumer reports, or talk to any car expert, time after time after time the big Japanese names always rank better overall than all the American brands. In price, in reliability, in features, in performance. Everything.

Railroader · Apr 9, 2007, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by macintologist

If you ever read consumer reports, or talk to any car expert, time after time after time the big Japanese names always rank better overall than all the American brands. In price, in reliability, in features, in performance. Everything.

FUD

IceEnclosure · Apr 9, 2007, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by macintologist

If you ever read consumer reports, or talk to any car expert, time after time after time the big Japanese names always rank better overall than all the American brands. In price, in reliability, in features, in performance. Everything.

right buddy. ESPECIALLY with full size work trucks. HAHAHAHA!

FUD

Lateralus · Apr 10, 2007, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by macintologist

If you ever read consumer reports, or talk to any car expert, time after time after time the big Japanese names always rank better overall than all the American brands. In price, in reliability, in features, in performance. Everything.

It's people like you who make the entire American car buying public look sheepish. And I say that because the American car buying public has turned into a group whose only buying information comes from water cooler talk.

I really wish more Americans would actually put the effort into educating themselves on the car market of this decade. Because most of the type of FUD that you're spreading is being fed from the auto reliabilities of the late 80's.

Today, there are as many American manufacturers in the top 10 as their are foreign manufacturers, and much of the time American cars are cheaper to repair when something does go wrong.

Buckaroo · Apr 10, 2007, 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by macintologist

Suckers are getting punished for buying a Ford in the first place. Next time, get a Toyota you dimwits

If I ever buy a truck, it will only be a Ford. Anything else would be a mistake. Especially a Toyota. The only Toyota I'd ever consider is maybe the Prius.

Nothing Toyota builds can compete with a Ford F350 Dieseld CrewCab, Longbed with Duallies.

Gossamer · Apr 10, 2007, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by Buckaroo

If I ever buy a truck, it will only be a Ford. Anything else would be a mistake. Especially a Toyota. The only Toyota I'd ever consider is maybe the Prius.

Nothing Toyota builds can compete with a Ford F350 Dieseld CrewCab, Longbed with Duallies.

Because it's a niche market that Toyota doesn't want into.

IceEnclosure · Apr 10, 2007, 02:09 AM

Diesel Ford 250/350s are so much fun! BZZSSSSSSSSSSPTT, BZSSSSSSSSSPT.

That's my Turbo Diesel sound.

http://store.bankspower.com/Categori...7-6d4118362d59

centerchannel68 · Apr 10, 2007, 03:05 AM

Originally Posted by macintologist

If you ever read consumer reports, or talk to any car expert, time after time after time the big Japanese names always rank better overall than all the American brands. In price, .

How are they better in price?

Chuckit · Apr 10, 2007, 03:49 AM

Because you get more mileage for your buck?

Dakar² · Apr 10, 2007, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by IceEnclosure

right buddy. ESPECIALLY with full size work trucks. HAHAHAHA!

Let me jump into my Mazda Pebbleclimber

centerchannel68 · Apr 10, 2007, 12:24 PM

Meh....

sek929 · Apr 10, 2007, 12:35 PM

Once you get into the heavy-duty trucks you'd be an idiot not to buy an American beast.

GMC HD and Ford Super-Duty are the best HD trucks available for any money.

If you only need a 1-ton capacity and less towing capabilities I would most certainly go Toyota. Until Toyota comes out with a monster Diesel with 500+ft/lbs of torque they will not take any business away from the big 3.

centerchannel68 · Apr 10, 2007, 01:08 PM

Sek: True, but I'd say like almost nobody who actually buys those things needs those towing capacities, they just buy them so they can brag to their friends "Oh man my truck can tow x amount! My truck can tow x+100 amount! Let's go watch Nascar!"

Ugh.

Gossamer · Apr 10, 2007, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

Sek: True, but I'd say like almost nobody who actually buys those things needs those towing capacities, they just buy them so they can brag to their friends "Oh man my truck can tow x amount! My truck can tow x+100 amount! Let's go watch Nascar!"

Ugh.

Source?

Dakar² · Apr 10, 2007, 01:33 PM

Redneck Sporadically (Harvest Moon, 2003)

Doofy · Apr 10, 2007, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

Source?

His bottom.

centerchannel68 · Apr 10, 2007, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

Source?

Drive through the suburbs. You'll see many gigantic trucks, with no boats or anything to tow in sight. Or, meet some people from the country. They might only use the truck to commute to the local factory/jobsite/etc, but they still buy the hugest truck available.

Gossamer · Apr 10, 2007, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

Drive through the suburbs. You'll see many gigantic trucks, with no boats or anything to tow in sight. Or, meet some people from the country. They might only use the truck to commute to the local factory/jobsite/etc, but they still buy the hugest truck available.

Sorry, but I'll only believe something if it's based on rational, logical evidence, not just something you want to believe.

centerchannel68 · Apr 10, 2007, 01:48 PM

It's not that I want to believe that. In fact, that's the opposite. I would love to believe that all huge trucks sold in this country are actually necessary. The truth, in my experience, has been unfortunately not like that. At all.

Lateralus · Apr 10, 2007, 01:50 PM

So, what you're saying Rob is that if you own a diesel, you're not allowed to drive it when you're not towing something?

For many diesel owners, it's worth it to own one even if they only spend 5-10% of its driving time towing.

centerchannel68 · Apr 10, 2007, 01:54 PM

No, I'm saying most huge pickups I see in the suburbs aren't doing anything pickupish. Ex: I know a guy named Tom. He works at a bodyshop. He does not run and pick up parts. He just commutes. What does he drive? A gigantic suburban. Alone. Why? Cuz it's a mayon's truck. I know another guy. Steve. He works as an electrician. He has a company vehicle, so his personal vehicle is just to commute with. What is it? A gigantic ford pickup. Why? Cuz it's a mayon's truck. I know another guy. Eric. He has a gigantic dodge. He's a manager of some welding company. He doesn't tow anything, or haul anything. Why does he drive a huge ram? Because it's a mayon's truck. Etc, etc etc. If you feel like disagreeing, go ahead. Be blind to the truth if you want.

Gossamer · Apr 10, 2007, 02:03 PM

Anecdotal evidence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Anecdotal evidence is also frequently misinterpreted via the availability heuristic, which leads to an overestimation of prevalence. Where a cause can be easily linked to an effect, people overestimate the likelihood of the cause having that effect (availability). In particular, vivid, emotionally-charged anecdotes seem more plausible, and are given greater weight. A related issue is that it is usually impossible to assess for every piece of anecdotal evidence, the rate of people not reporting that anecdotal evidence in the population.

centerchannel68 · Apr 10, 2007, 02:11 PM

Ignorance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Ignorance is a lack of knowledge. Ignorance is also the state of being ignorant or uninformed. For example, "Bill lost the debate because he was ignorant of that subject." In such a case the term is not pejorative, and may even be used as a self-descriptive term, as in, "I am ignorant of English history."
Another definition states that ignorance is the choice to not act or behave in accordance with regard to certain information in order to suit ones own needs or beliefs. For example, "I know better but I choose to ignore that and act in a way that behooves me." Ignorance is often misinterpreted as a synonym of stupidity, and is as thus often taken as an insult, when really it is, in its correct form, not an insult at all but a criticism.
In many if not all cases, ignorance is seen as a pleasant alternative to harsh reality"

Gossamer · 02:30 PM

To quoke Dakar,

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Dakar² · Apr 10, 2007, 02:26 PM

There's an 'h'.

cjrivera · Apr 10, 2007, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

There's an 'h'.

Hweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?

Dakar² · Apr 10, 2007, 02:34 PM

Cool h-wip

olePigeon · Apr 10, 2007, 02:40 PM

Most trucks I see around here are raised Fords and Chevys with handicap parking hangers in the mirror, driven by 20-somethings. Then they park diagonally across 2 handicap spots and the ramp.

... OK, not all the time. But I've seen it at least 3 times. Annoys the hell out me and especially my sister who works with disabled people.

I think Ca$h is mostly right. I'd wager 3 out of 5 heavy pickups/SUVs on the road are just there because of penis size.

centerchannel68 · Apr 10, 2007, 02:46 PM

Finally someone else who opens their eyes. Thank you for posting.

cjrivera · Apr 10, 2007, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

Cool h-wip